Zowie (BenQ) - EC1-DW

Deathadder used to be my absolute favorite mouse due to size and feel as ive got some large hands. Every single one has ended up getting scroll wheel issues after a year or two. I've probably had quite a few over a decade now.  I swapped over to the Zowie EC1-CW and its been the best mouse ive ever used hands down. The scroll wheel is louder and doesn't feel super smooth or anything but ive had it forever now and have never had a single issue at all. My only gripe is the finish is super smooth on it and with my sweaty hands it wasn't ideal, but I threw on a $9 set of pads for the mouse and its basically perfect. They have a new one, the EC1-DW? I think its called which is a lot lighter but same dimensions basically. If you have big hands, this thing fits like a glove imo. Can't give it high enough praise.

502 is a big mouse, but maybe you want something where the hump is a little taller and more so in the middle. Ec1-dw or Xlite large v3 or 4, ec1 will be slightly taller and more forward and the xlite is similar but a good amount taller. Keep an eye on that Razer vertical mouse they announced maybe. Eloshapes to help compare

How about an EC1-DW

Open the mouse and remove the battery. As long as it’s plugged in it should run anyways. Also if it’s plugged into the computer it runs over the wire not the wireless so there’s no „dangerous“ radiation

If you dont mind ergo - Zowie Ec1 DW is the biggest i had in hands. There are bigger ones, i know, but its the biggest gaming mouse i had.

Look at the ZOWIE EC1-DW, it is a 130mm long, palm grip mouse. If you have some palm left out, you can always buy an arm sleeve so you can slide equally well on the mouse pad.

Jumping straight into it as someone who has mained the EC series for many years now, specifically the EC1 with 20x10cm hands, its great to see Zowie doing their mice shapes justice and refining them CORRECTLY (looking at you razer DA). **SHAPE:** Starting with the most interesting aspect of the update in my opinion are the SHAPE CHANGES... Seemingly the shape has been quietly refined in the most positive way for my hands and grip style. The dimension changes on the Zowie website may seem suttle on the surface (changes in size are all under 1mm) however they do change the shape to a degree to which is noticeable in hand coming from the EC1-CW which ive used for almost 2 years now. Going into detail the mouse has generally increased slightly in width and slightly in height making the mouse supply additional support in parts of my hand (Pinky, and Base of Palm) I previously didnt get while still allowing for a pocket at the back of my palm (I use claw grip with my fingers extended to the front of the mouse). The hump to me seems to taper off slightly less towards the base remaining higher for longer or just being higher in general making for more palm contact and does offer a more prominent hump (ever so slightly) that i really appreciate. Next the right side of the mouse also offers a change in the actual shape to the front of the mouse, meaning its corners are slightly less rounded and more flat right at the top right of the mouse which for me is perfect as I my ring finger used to slant inward due to this issue on the EC1-CW, the pinky is also more supported and this is where the shape change is noticed the most, its like i lay my hand on the mouse and my hand is greeted where its at, no additional squeeze needed to tuck my pinky in anymore which I experienced on the EC1-CW, this will all be personal preference I can see some preferring the previous iteration however for myself this is an excellent refinement and amplification of what the mouse already had going for it. **Weight and QC** : Amazing weight for such a large mouse and being so well balanced it feels extremely enjoyable to use, QC is perfect on my copy as it was on my previous EC1-CW they feel as sturdy as eachother which is impressive seeing as they knocked off almost 20 Grams on the big boy. Clicks seem ever so more tactile but still light which is exactly what I would've asked for. **Performance:** 4k feels great and very responsive, never any issues with connection on Zowie mice so no complaints here either. **Overall/TLDR:** Best iteration of the EC1 there has been, shape has been refined to offer an even comfier more controllable experience, mouse feels slightly larger, which to some will actually be a negative but to me its created an even better experience truly a GEM for large hands. I believe the price was actually reduced in the UK aswell to £130 from £150 on the CW line which is also a bonus. Feel free to ask any questions :) \[UPDATE\] No longer my main, nothing wrong with the mouse per say, just still incompatible with my claw grip and large hands as my ring finger doesnt feel like its sitting on a flat panel just one thats got a rounded corner at the front that really offsets my micro adjustments like the previous EC1-CW. My 1/2 improvements to the shape would be to straighten out the front corner on the right side so it doesn't bend inward to the mouse, and next I would position the hump more toward the back, this would supply more support and height to the back of the mouse that would be perfection, changing the hump position more towards the rear would be more optimal on this shape for my claw grip.

If you experience pain or discomfort, you need both rest and recovery. I would advise you to temporarily switch to a trackball like a logitech mx ergo or Kensington slimblade pro for your officework. Also take regular breaks and do strengthening exercises and stretches. Set your desk height properly as well. Switching to a more relaxed grip style as well as temporary setting higher in-game sens will drastically reduce strain on your wrist and hand. With time you should recover and be pain free. Good luck. Ergo shapes depend a lot on your grip style and hand size as well. A safe ergo would be a zowie ec1 dw, or ec2 dw if you want something more mid size.

Zowie EC1-DW for sure. Your hands are basically the same size as mine. I'm using an EC1-C and it's honestly the best fit I've ever used.

Zowie is great but their click latency is behind their competitors. Check rtings. You should pick the ec1-dw as it's bigger than the ec2. You can take a mouse suggestion test on zowies website. Or just get the deathadder v4 pro, if you care about click latency.

Very subjective question and it also depends on your grip and handsize. I’ve tested deathadder v3, superlight 2, razer viper and eventually ended up using the ec1-cw for a long time. Now switched to ec1-dw and its brilliant. I’ve got big hands though and i like a palm grip.

i have pretty large hands and been using dav3 pro for the last 2 years, recently upgraded to EC1-DW and it feels better. i would still prefer an extra 10mm length but there is nothing like that on the market other than heavy ass IE 3 reboot unfortunately.

EC1-DW is probably your best bet, my hands are the same size but I use more of a claw grip, the EC1 is big and its the kind of shape that suits the way you rest your palm on the mouse. I prefer the G703 shape because it's wide so I can grip it by the sides

My hands are 22x12 and it's virtually impossible for me to find a mouse long enough, I've tried a lot of suggestions and I don't think people really grasp how big that hand in the picture is so they post mice that are big to them. I prefer big mice meant for palm grip because at least I can claw or fingertip them but they don't make mice that are long enough unfortunately. The stand out mice for me are Teevolution Terra, zowie EC1-DW and Darmoshark M3 but I'm claw/fingertip with all of them, they just happen to be chunky enough to get hold of

If you like the shape, updated DA is likely your best bet, or maybe a Zowie EC1-DW

I've had Zowies, yes, their scroll wheel is oldschool in a pretty specific way, you could love it or hate it. Steps are decently defined and they make noise like an angry insect.

It's good for that, it's known to be sliiightly rattly and a little cheap (plasticky) feeling compared to some of what's come out in the past 10+ years since they last changed mouse wheels, but it's very good for selecting weapons.

Zowie EC1, Razer Deathadder V3 are the best picks for larger hand gamers, especially with more relaxed grips. if you want something ambidextrous, the Superlight is probably near the largest new ambi mouse that people recommend. Maybe the Zowie FK1+-C? edit: scratch the fk1+-c if you're looking for light mice, it's 77g. I would highly recommend either the EC1-DW or Deathadder V3 Pro.

Dope review, super indepth lol i daily drive my Naga pro because of WoW etc but shes getting older and not performing So i ordered a Ec1-dw because i love zowie since i bought my ec1 from Frys electronics in Vegas around 2010 just right after they first dropped like they had them on display and you could try them lol how long ive been a fan. THEN i saw the DAV4 pro come out and they're literally just about the same size witch is important to me as ive got baseballs mits for hands. Do you think im losing performance picking ec1 over the dav4 pro?

Tried the EC1-DW and Pulsar Xlite v4 recently to replace my Basilisk v3 Pro. The Basilisk made my pinky and ring finger hurt after about an hour of gaming because I have large hands. The Zowie and Pulsar were very close. The coating on the Zowie was a bit more sweaty, however fingerprints were more visible on the Pulsar. Even though the Zowie is longer, the Pulsar felt a little bigger and better due to the larger hump. I liked the charging station / receiver that came with the Zowie- for the Pulsar there is no charging station and the 8k dongle is an additional purchase making the Pulsar 15€ more expensive than the Zowie. I liked the scrollwheel and the Zowie better because it gave more feedback. In the end I kept the Pulsar because of the shape and the slightly better coating. I‘d also like to see a large hands mouse with a large hump from Zowie.

S1-C Vaxee xe v2 (Soon) Ec1-dw Super light 2 Dex

Those have programmable buttons excluding the zowie EC as it doesn't have software

Ok get the ec1-dw instead rog is too heavy

It's not a small mouse - maybe check out the mouse?

Yeah it's one of the best mice for a large hand palm grip - relaxed claw

Depends EC for ergonomic, fk for claw/fingertip, s/za/u for claw grip

Ec1-dw if it still feels small then there is nothing you can do

It's for medium size hands if you want large mice I recommend the ec1-dw or teevolution

Palm grip mouse extinct most mice nowadays are built for medium to small hands the only mouse I know for palm grip with large hands are the ec1-dw but some people with large hands still found it too small so they just mixed their grip style.

Ec1-dw although it's slightly bigger and has a bit low hump, Dav4 is coming soon

I see what you mean, on the site its .4 larger on front and .2 on the back. But I'm with the two of them here on my hand with a calliper and I'm struggling to find that .4 on the front, same for every other measurement, I'm getting the CW specs on both... But also, what could be happening is that no mouse is alike, there will be discrepancies and tolerances... Well, if zowie said it changed, maybe i'm measuring a bit in an angle, but yeah, could be slight, and I think I prefer the DW, but I don't think it feels bigger, at least for me.

One other thing I might add, the DW's got a better fit between junctions, between side shell and button shell. My EC1-CW and U2-CW got this slight bump I could easily feel. The U2-DW is very tight, the EC1-DW is also good, but mine is creaking a bit on the bottom shell connection(which I fixed by myself though).

*Disclaimer* Huge thanks to Zowie for sending this mouse! However it doesn’t affect my opinions in the review. TL;DR: Ergonomic mouse for people with large hands, weighing only 63 grams, designed for various grip styles, plug and play, with a 4000 Hz polling rate. A charging dock and small dongle are included in the box. The package includes two sets of spare mouse feet: slower and faster. This review will help you decide if this is the RIGHT mouse for you. So, here are my thoughts: SHAPE: Let's start with the most important thing - the shape. My hand measures 20.5 × 10.5 cm (long, slim fingers). Zowie EC1-DW is the longest ergonomic gaming mouse on the market, measuring 129.4 mm in length (among lightweight mice with top-tier components). In terms of size, it's longer than the Pulsar Xlite V3 Large (126 mm), Razer DeathAdder V3 Pro (128 mm), and Logitech DEX (126 mm). Despite being the longest, the EC1-DW is also the lowest in height at just 42.3 mm, which sets it apart from the other large ergonomic mice (44/ 45mm). For some users who prefer lower (in terms of height) mice, this could be a benefit. For others, it might be a downside. Additionally, the back of the EC1-DW is noticeably lower than that of the other large ergo mice. In my case, this is unfortunately a drawback — I’m unable to fully palm grip the EC1 because the metacarpal area of my hand floats above the mouse. As a result, my grip becomes more of a hybrid between fingertip and palm. For some users, having the back of the hand elevated can be a benefit — it allows for easier micro-adjustments using the fingers. Personally, I find this to be a downside, as I feel a lack of stability during precise shooting - precision is crucial in tactical shooters like CS2. However, the low height of the mouse can be an advantage for users with large hands who want to fingertip grip the EC1. I tried various grip styles, but none of them felt truly comfortable, mainly due to the low rear hump. If I were to use the EC1 in a way where the lower part of my palm rested on the hump (meaning I’d pull the mouse deeper into my hand), then in a palm grip, my index, middle, and ring fingers would extend 1.5 to 2 cm past the front of the mouse. With a relaxed claw grip, my fingers would land closer to the front edge of the main buttons. I've decided to order the Teevolution Terra to see how it feels to play with a mouse that has a significantly higher back hump. Even though the shape didn’t fully suit me, I managed to reach 25,600 points in CS2 Premier (Season 3) after 10 matches — most of which I played using the EC1-DW (sens 1.55 400 dpi). Shape Comparison with other large ergo mice: Compared to the Pulsar Xlite V3 Large and Razer DeathAdder V3, the EC1-DW has several better-designed elements. Let’s start with the Xlite. Even though the V3 Large is 3 mm shorter, it feels larger overall due to its noticeably taller and fuller back hump. For users with large or even extra-large hands, this may make the Xlite V3 Large feel like a better mouse, offering more backhand support and stability. Even though the Xlite V3 Large has a higher back hump than the EC1, I still wish it was 2–3 mm taller. Although both mice have rounded front edges on their main buttons, the EC1-DW has a smoother and more comfortable front curvature, which makes it a better option if you have long fingers that extend past the front of the mouse. It's also worth mentioning that the Pulsar Xlite V3 Large has holes on the bottom of the shell. EC1-DW vs Razer DeathAdder V3: Like the Pulsar, the DAV3 also has a higher back hump than the EC1-DW. However, its side walls end in sharp edges, which can be uncomfortable — especially if you have longer fingers, like the ring finger, that extend past the front of the mouse. The EC1-DW is noticeably more rounded in these areas, making it more comfortable to hold. Another drawback of the DAV3 is the lack of a rounded front edge on the main buttons. If you rest your fingers near the edges, prolonged use might lead to discomfort or even pain — I consider this one of the biggest downsides of the DAV3. Additionally, just like in other Razer mice, there are slanted edges at the bottom of the mouse, which may bother some users who rest their thumb at the very bottom of the side wall. The bottom part of the side walls on the EC1 is rounded. However, I like the design of the Pulsar X ZywOo the most, where the side walls stay straight all the way down without any rounding at the bottom of the shell. Even though the shape of the mouse isn’t ideal for me personally, I still want to thank Zowie for not forgetting about gamers with large hands and for offering mice that are 128–130 mm in length. The EC series comes in three sizes: EC1, EC2, and EC3 — with the EC1 being the largest and the EC3 the smallest. SHAPE SUGGESTION: Zowie currently offers only one series of ergonomic mice (EC), while there are four symmetrical lines available (S, U, FK, and ZA). I’d love to see Zowie introduce a new ergonomic shape with a high back hump. Many manufacturers have released mice with such a shape (e.g., Logitech DEX, Pulsar X3 and Pulsar x ZywOo Edition, Lamzu Thorn, Outset AX, Teevolution Terra), so it would be exciting to see Zowie’s own take on this. Ideally, this shape could come in at least two sizes: – a medium one (122–125 mm) – and a large one (around 130 mm). While there are a few high-back-hump mice on the market, most of them lean toward medium sizing. From what I’ve seen on Reddit, there’s a clear gap when it comes to ergonomic shapes for people with large — or even very large — hands. If you feel the same way, leave a comment and share your thoughts! WEIGHT and BUILD QUALITY: According to Zowie website EC1-DW weights 63 grams which is an acceptable - on my scale it also weights 63 grams. Considering that the mouse is large in size (even XL by today’s mouse standards) and has a solid shell with no holes, I think the weight is actually very reasonable. Other large ergonomic mice weigh similarly, or are only about 5 to 7 grams lighter. The mouse shell is very well-fitted. There are no sharp edges that could cause discomfort. EC1-DW is well build - nothing creaks, flexes or rattles inside. MAIN BUTTONS: Zowie seems to have improved the main buttons. While I haven’t used the EC1-A in a few years and can’t directly compare (I don’t have it anymore), the buttons on the DW feel less mushy. The main buttons have slight grooves to provide a more secure grip. It's worth noting that the finger grooves aren't as deep as those on the Xlite V3 Large. Similar to the FK and S series, the EC series also features rounded main buttons at the front. This is a great design choice for users with long fingers, as it allows for comfortable clicking without discomfort — unlike, for example, the Razer DAV3 Pro. Honestly, I wish all mice had front-rounded main buttons. As for the click feel itself — it’s perfectly fine. Thanks to the rounded main buttons at the front, the mouse will be suitable even for users with long fingers. There is a slight amount of pre-travel — if you apply a small amount of force to the main button, it can move slightly (a few millimeters) before actuating. There’s also post-travel if you press the buttons all the way down. That said, I want to give Zowie credit for how well the main buttons are built. Even when I press them firmly and wiggle them side to side, there’s no annoying creaking or flexing (unlike, for example, the Vaxee NP-01 Wireless). Also the main clicks are crisp and springy, making them well-suited for quick one-taps and fast shooting. The main buttons are neither too light to cause misclicks, nor too heavy to click. Overall they are fine – at the end of the day, it really comes down to personal preference when it comes to click feel. SIDE BUTTONS: I also feel like the side buttons, just like the main buttons, have been improved on EC1-DW and are much more comfortable to press. They are among the best I’ve used on an ergonomic mouse. They have a very satisfying click and feel great in use. They’re similar in height to the ones on the DAV3 and Xlite V3 Large, but slightly longer, which makes them more accessible for users with various hand sizes. Their higher placement also leaves enough room to comfortably rest your thumb on the side wall. SCROLL: Zowie EC1-DW, just like the S2-DW and FK2-DW, uses the same loud scroll wheel. While this isn’t really an issue for gaming, it might become slightly annoying during office or general use. (For productivity, something like the Logitech GPX is a better choice.) Recently, I tested the Pulsar X ZywOo and really liked its scroll wheel. I’d love to see something similar implemented in at least one new series or version from Zowie — just to test whether players might prefer it over the current one. It’s also worth noting that the scroll wheel on the EC1-DW is positioned farther forward compared to other large ergonomic mice, which can be a big plus for users with long fingers. In my case, this is a huge advantage, as I’ve often found scroll wheels placed too far back on smaller mice. The scroll is easy to use, yet offers enough resistance to avoid accidental jumps in CS2 (if you use mousewheel up/down for jumping). Compared to the Xlite V3 Large and the DAV3 Pro, the scroll steps on the EC1-DW are the most pronounced and tactile. You have to ask yourself whether you prefer a smooth scroll wheel (like on the DAV3 or Xlite V3 Large), or more tactile steps like on the EC1-DW. Above the scroll wheel, there are no additional buttons — just an empty ledge. This ensures that users with longer fingers won’t accidentally press the main button while using the scroll. SENSOR: have no complaints about sensor. The mouse is compatible with a refresh rate of 4000 Hz. The enhanced receiver is included in the package, so you don’t need to purchase a separate receiver (You can achieve 2000 Hz or 4000 Hz via enchanced receiver). This could be a huge plus for some people. The EC1-DW offers three LOD (Lift-Off Distance) settings: Low, Medium, and High. You can change the LOD using a specific button combination (instructions are available on Zowie's official website). Having three LOD options can be a real advantage for some users. Since I personally prefer a low LOD, this is definitely a big plus for me. MOUSE SKATES: The mouse comes with white Speedy Skatez feet pre-installed. Two sets of spare feet are included, so you don’t need to spend money on replacements in the future. Spare mouse feet should be included in the package with every mouse - A huge plus for Zowie. Zowie’s skates (both version) are thin: 0.5mm. Despite the thin mouse feet, there's no digging or scratching against the mousepad. In my opinion, thin mouse feet are better than thicker ones. Here's an interesting fact: On my Xlite V3 Large, I installed Corepad Skatez Pro 232, which according to the manufacturer are 0.9 mm thick. This can cause the mouse to tilt slightly when pressure is applied—specifically, the left side of the mouse lifts up a bit. This might affect precise mouse movements (like few pixel movements), which can be frustrating in precision-based games like CS2. Even if it doesn't directly affect aim, the subtle feeling of the mouse lifting can be distracting while playing. Additionally, Zowie provides one set of faster (white) feet and one set of slower (black) feet, allowing you to test which works best for your playstyle and game of choice. MOUSE BASE - BUTTONS: There are three buttons on the bottom of the mouse: • Button on the right is for changing DPI. You can choose from six DPI values: 400, 800, 1000, 1200, 1600, 3200. Custom DPI values cannot be set. When the dpi changes, an LED above the button lights up to indicate the value. • Button on the left is for changing refresh rate. You can choose from five polling rate options: 125, 500, 1000, 2000 and 4000 Hz. I use 1000 Hz to reduce the frequency of charging the mouse. • Third button (located below the DPI button) allows you to select between the small dongle and the enhanced receiver. Setting this button to the middle position turns off the mouse. COATING: The coating is all right. Even though I have sweaty hands, the mouse didn’t slip during my CS2 sessions. WHAT'S in the BOX: The mouse is packaged in a black box with red accents that indicate the mouse model, along with the Zowie's red logo. It features a minimalist design, yet it looks elegant. You get: • Two spare sets of mouse feet: one set is black (slower). Second one is white – speedy skates (faster). Spare feet should be standard in every mouse. A huge plus for Zowie. • Small dongle (adapter + 2,4GHz dongle). • Enchanced receiver which can be used as a charging dock. • USB-C to USB-A cable for charging the mouse. The cable has plastic protectors on both ends, showcasing attention to detail. • User manual. BATERY LIFE & CHARGING: When it comes to battery life, the mouse lasts up to 80 hours at a 1000 Hz polling rate (According to Zowie’s website), which can be considered average. In the next version, I’d like to see a larger battery. Given the mouse's weight, the battery should last for at least 90-100 hours – similar to DAV3 Pro or DAV3 Hyperspeed. If you opt for a 2K or 4K Hz polling rate, the battery will last for 30 and 24 hours respectively (according to the Zowie’s website). To extend battery life, I used a 1000 Hz polling rate. You can charge the mouse in two ways: • Using a cable. The cable is rubber-coated, similar to the one in the Logitech G Pro X Superlight. The cable end could be raised to reduce friction between the cable and the mouse pad. I would like to see different cable in the future – like paracord. I don’t like how stiff cable is. Playing while the mouse is charging via cable (even when using Zowie camade) is subpar. I discourage playing while the mouse is charging via cable. • Using a charging dock. If you have two mice on your desk, using the charging dock is very convenient because you don’t need to disconnect the dongle from the cable and connect the mouse via cable—instead, you just place the mouse on the charging dock. The mouse has built-in magnets, making it very easy to align and connect to the charging dock. Charging Using a charging dock is slightly below 2 hours (1 h 54 min). When you enable 2000 or 4000 Hz, a red LED lights up on the enhanced dongle to indicate this. The charging dock could display the battery percentage – both while charging and during gameplay when you want to check how much battery is left. Additionally, the dock could show other useful information, such as LOD. SOFTWARE: Zowie EC1-DW is plug and play. That means you don’t need any software to download. You can adjust settings such as DPI, polling rate, LOD, click response time, and motion sync. The lack of software can be both an advantage and a disadvantage. On the one hand, you don’t need to download any software, but on the other hand, you can’t see which LOD or click response time values are currently set. Also it would be useful to have the option to change the time after which the mouse enters sleep mode. Web-based software is becoming more popular these days (e.g., Pulsar x Zywoo, Vaxee), and it would be great to see Zowie move in that direction as well. Pulsar, for example, introduced a clever solution in the Zywoo mouse: the dongle has two LED indicators that show info like polling rate, LOD, motion sync, battery level or warnings, and connection status. Given the size of Zowie’s enhanced receiver, they could easily add a small screen for displaying this info — or at the very least, labels for things like LOD, DPI, and battery level next to color-coded LEDs. A battery indicator in particular would be helpful (I know the scroll wheel LED blinks when battery is low, but having more detailed info on the dongle would be a nice upgrade). PRICE: You can purchase it on the Zowie’s website for 149.99 USD (150 Euros on Maxgaming’s Europe website). FINAL THOUGHTS: Is it worth buying Zowie EC1-DW? Zowie EC1-DW is an interesting option for users with large hands. If you want to try the longest ergonomic mouse on the market (among lightweight mice with top-tier components), and one that’s also a bit lower in height than the DAV3 and Pulsar Xlite V3 Large, this is a very interesting option. I appreciate Zowie’s attention to detail in its design—something I highlighted when comparing it with other large ergonomic mice. Thanks to its lower height, it’s also suitable for fingertip users, as well as claw and palm grip styles. The package includes a 4K Hz receiver and two extra sets of feet, so you won’t need to buy replacements anytime soon—which is a big plus. As for the EC1-DW price, I’d love to see it come down to around €120–130. That would make the EC1-DW a much better value. That said, when it comes to the mouse itself—I really don’t have any complaints. Everything is solid - it all comes down to personal preference in terms of shape, main button feel, and scroll wheel. As for me personally (20.5 × 10.5 cm hands), the EC1-DW won’t become my main. I need a higher back hump. That’s why I’d love to see Zowie make an ergonomic mouse with a high back hump in the future. Thanks for reading! Few words about me: I'm a gaming enthusiast with a passion for CS2. I run a YouTube channel where I analyze professional players. I’ve spent several thousand hours in the game and currently play at Faceit level 9 and 24K Premier (Season 2). Over the past few years, I’ve tested a wide range of gaming mice — and I mean a lot. Through that, I’ve gained a deep understanding of what makes a mouse good for competitive play. I'm a mid-to-low sensitivity player, using 400 DPI with in-game sensitivity between 1.55 and 2.2. LINKS: USA: https://zowie.benq.com/en-us/mouse/ec1-dw.html EUROPE: https://zowie.benq.eu/en-eu/mouse/ec1-dw.html

Thanks! Wow, you bought EC in 2010. You are true Zowie fan haha DAV4 is slightly shorter than EC1 in terms of length but has bigger back hump. I wouldn't be worried about sensor - nowadays they are all very good. It all comes down to main clicks, scroll and shape preferences. In the review I compared these two mice in terms of shape differences.

I have 21x11 cm hands and I just got my Zowie EC1-DW yesterday. Fits me like a glove.

I have Ec1-dw and DAV3P. Zowie is waaaay more comfortable for bigger hands

If you want to test something like the deathadder, but with a little different feeling, try the EC1-DW, or Xlite v3 large, and about the sniper flicks, well... Just practice brother, you'll get the feel eventually!

Okay, I love that solution then. Actually, ordered one unit few hours ago :) For now one and if if turns out good for my girlfriend, I might go for bigger size for myself, since the EC2 seems to be smaller than my current mouse (G703 Lightspeed), so having something bigger / more comfy for 3g of weight more seems like reasonable deal. Thank you again for recommending Zowie. Never relly thought that gaming mice market is such a rabbit hole :D

I started to consider Zowie actually. Somehow dock and charging it through the night is very appealing to never run out of battery. Also, apparently I did my measurements wrong, so my hand size is 19.5cm x 11cm (didn't know I should include thumb for the measurement lol). So I guess I would fall into EC1 category for something comfortable using 12-16h a day?

I have pretty normal to smaller hands but I enjoy big mice too that fill out the hand, have you looked at the Zowie EC-1? They have a wireless version now and it's really good. By far my favorite mouse I've ever used. It's lightweight too without having holes in it!

Zowie dw best mouse! 😀

We definitely are at peak. The sensors are so good to the point where you can’t even tell the difference with just the naked human eye. A mouse and more to come eventually where you can adjust the increments of your dpi by just 1 dpi at a time. Mice weighing below 40 grams with polling rates high enough it drains the heck out of your battery or it’ll cause heavy stutters, especially if it’s not high polling rate friendly. The clicks on all the mice I’ve tried, GPX 2, viper v3 pro, beastx max, and Lamzu Atlantis…. They all felt the same latency wise. The only mice where I’ve clicked and felt like the quickness of its latency was the xm2w 4k and op1 8k. Even zowies mice dw series clicks feel just about the same as any other new release latency wise even though it’s higher than normal on paper. But guess what, that’s on paper and we aren’t computers lol. The race to see who’s mice are better than the other are fun but in reality… something we don’t want to admit is they are all basically the same thing but with different shapes and different weights. It all comes down to how it’s implemented. It’s crazy to hear we live in a day that people legitimately call 60 gram mice heavy. If it continues they’ll soon start calling mice 50 grams heavy lol

Thank you, i still stand by my point on this matter, its not even my "opinion" its mere statistics of my purchases and quality/RMAs in last 10 years. needless to say, since i made this post i am now using newest zowie benq wireless mouse and its been working fine, lets see how long it lasts

I wouldnt say that, its just made for palm grip for medium-small hands. I have medium hands, my friend has small, I use this and he uses the ec2-cw, completely fine

looks like pincer claw try zowie ec mice

I got my first Deathadder in 2009. I had two of the original model, one 3.5 and one 4G. In 2015, I bought a Zowie EC that I've been using near daily for the past decade.

I got my first Deathadder in 2009. I had two of the original model, one 3.5 and one 4G. In 2015, I bought a Zowie EC that I've been using near daily for the past decade.

I got my first Deathadder in 2009. I had two of the original model, one 3.5 and one 4G. In 2015, I bought a Zowie EC that I've been using near daily for the past decade.

Something ergo from zowie/ deathadder V3 pro / deathadder V3 hyperspeed / Vaxee

Basically any ergo mouse, ie. Deathadder v3 or v4. ZOWIE EC. There’s hundreds of good ergo mice out there.

not sure what you mean by 3 mode. but ergo mice like the EC series by zowie, death adder series, FK2-DW(ambi), Maya X(ambi), GPX Dex, but it entirely depends on your hand size and preferences

Zowie wireless ones go for triple the price of these . I used to have a zowie ec mouse back in 2014 to 2020 the right doesn't work anymore otherwise a brilliant mouse