EC2-C

Hello, I want to buy a new mouse. I'm mainly a cs2 player but I also use my computer for other things, thats why I dont like small mouses at all, I feel a bit uncomfortable when I'm not playing. I also have big hands. I have tried with a few mouses but rn im clueless wich one should I buy. I had the asus rog harpe ace aimlab edition wich I enjoyed so much until the battery broke, so I bought the razer viper v3 pro se, but I don't really like the shape. My grip is a relaxed claw grip btw. Im gonna put the list of mouses thay I've tried over the last years: \- HyperX Pulsefire Haste: I actually boughted twice, and got broken twice. I loved the shape and the feeling so I'm about to try the new one but I see the wireless one has a lot of problems also... \- Xtryfy M42: Too small for me, didn't like it. \- Endgame Gear XM1r: Heavy and didn't like the shape. \- G pro x superlight: I bought it just to try it out but it was again small and the shape was really simple. \-Zowie BenQ EC2-C: Every cs player has try it, so I did the same. Palm grip mouse, I liked it but It wasn't what I was looking to. \-Deathadder V3 PRO: I was really surprised and actually I liked it, again is not my natural grip style but it is one of the best shapes that I've tried. \- Asus rog harpe ace aim lab ed: This is the mouse that I've used for the las two years, it fits good on my hand and it is not small at all. \- Razer viper v3 pro se: I thought I would like it but not exactly, I feel its designed more for palm grip or for any grip in general but there is something in the shape that gets in the way when Im doing a recoil. I was looking to buy the atk vxe r1 pro but again, I think its too small for what I'm looking. I would like a mouse with the width of the pulsefire haste or the harpe ace. Also really important, it needs to be in amazon, I don't want to buy from aliexpress or dedicated websites from the brand. Not more than 60g and around 80€. Any recommendations?

kinda hard to tell from those links but for palm grip around that price the [Razer DeathAdder V3](https://featherab.com/shopit?search_keywords=Razer+DeathAdder+V3) is a safe bet. also check [Logitech G403 Hero](https://featherab.com/shopit?search_keywords=Logitech+G403+Hero) or [Zowie EC2-C](https://featherab.com/shopit?search_keywords=Zowie+EC2-C) - all ergo shapes that fill the palm nicely. rawm leviathan v4 is pretty big so if that's one you're looking at make sure your hands are medium-large. palm grip usually means you want the hump to support your knuckles.

Then maybe I am just unlucky or what? Had a ec2-c with horrible frame skipping, one ec2-cw that started to have disconnection issues just after a week warranty ended, sitting as a e-waste now. idk what's with 1-year support only when razer and logitech provides give 2 years and replace the product no questions asked. Have 2 gsr-se and 1 gsr2 that refuses to stay flat till date. I have used a lot of zowie stuff and still main them. But it's not all sunshine and rainbows like you describe. the clicks get mushy, the coating gets shined and slippery, but that's acceptable.

Probably just stay away from this mouse I recommend the ec2c, xlite v3 medium Wired or rawm er21

Still a good mouse the zowie has better scroll wheel durability because it's optical shape wise they're extremely different

XM2 8k Zowie c series (EC, s, fk, za)

Check out mice with optical scroll wheel encoders it's usually has better longevity than mechanical encoders. Mice with optical scroll wheel - zowie c series, g502x/basilisk v3, leviathan v4, keychron m6.

I can list good wired mice - op18k v2/XM2 8k v2, dav3 wired, pulsefire haste 2 wired, pulsefire saga wired, redragon m996 wired, zowie c series.

G502x, basilisk v3, zowie c series (EC, s, fk, za)

Check out the steelseries prime / prime mini wired the mini is lighter tho Zowie c series mice - they're on 70+ weight but zowie discontinued it so chances are you're going to buy a second hand unit

Hyperx - haste 2 wired, pulse fire saga wired Razer - deathadder V3 Zowie - c generation mice (EC, fk, s, za)

Depends EC for ergonomic, fk for claw/fingertip, s/za/u for claw grip

Intellimouse mouse pro this shape is the original and zowie EC is inspired by this shape Zowie fk, s, za, u

Yes, it's still a perfectly good mouse for your intended use case.

if it has to be pure wired under $200, I’d look at Vaxee XE / NP-01S or Zowie EC2-C / S2-C, all super solid for CS. Great tracking, consistent feel, no gimmicks. If you want something lighter/faster, Razer Viper 8K is still a great wired pick. Shape matters most imo.

i personally dont like the xm2we(which has the same shape as xm1r) but solely due to the shape, other than that it is a good mouse. depends on what kind of shape you want for your mouse. if you want a safe option, or a mouse with a shape that can accomodate for multiple gripstyles and handsizes, there are many g pro superlight clones that are bascially just as good, such as mchose a7 pro or incott g23 (there are many others). zowie also still sells their wired c-series mice too which are also great options. you could also find some good deals for used options. I personally use the deathadder v3 wired.