Zowie (BenQ) - EC2-DW

Was going to comment this but decided to see if someone did it first. Zowie's EC2-DW is just insanely comfortable. I have both the DW and the CW. Started with the CW model and when I found out about a lighter mouse with the same exact shape, I decided to instantly buy it

I have a EC2-DW as well and agree with you about the clicks.

I grabbed a EC2-DW when they came out even though I had a EC2-CW. No, not worth getting any of the new mice. Yes, I still have both and yes, I do like Zowie products. I even use a G-SR III mousepad. But there are a lot of better options out there that are cheaper.

The RAWM ER21PRO is an exact clone of the EC2 that's only $75. I own one and I can definitely say the clicks are so much better on the RAWM than the Zowie mice.

I have the EC2-CW and EC2-DW and yes, the RAWM ER21PRO (that I also have) is an exact clone.

I find this quite strange because I share the same concerns as you, but unlike you, the curved side of the EC2 is why I always used mice based on that; IME 3.0, and then EC2 versions over the years (EC2 OG with glossy sides, EC2 Blue rubberised, and a few years ago the EC2-DW. However, I switched to the Vaxee AX O because I experienced some skipping issues with a few EC2-DW units. My Vaxee has recently given me some double-clicking issues after a year and a half, and I'm thinking what's next

I have the same size hands and had almost the same problem with the same mice - aggressive claw grip so no pinky dragging, but I had to curl too much for the HyperSpeed. Landed on a Vaxee E1 and it fits me perfectly.  It and the Zowie EC2-DW its shape is based on are worth checking out. The E1 sometimes does feel a bit short in my hand, but the EC2 is supposed to be a bit longer so it might work better for you since your grip seems and sounds a bit less aggressive than mine. Consider nabbing them secondhand if the price is prohibitive (they pretty much don't go on sale ever). edit: Also important to note those Deathadder shapes you tried are based off the EC1/2, so it'll be a familiar shape to you.

They're both very similar shape wise, maybe EC2 is better since it's a little longer but imo you can't go very wrong that way (same person designed the shape for both mice). It may be better to consider features making the decision. EC2-DW has a nice recharging station that doubles as the dongle but has a very tactile and loud scrollwheel which might not be good for an office but is pretty great for gaming. Vaxee E1 has a standard dongle and normal and high quality scrollwheel, but also has imo much nicer main buttons. Vaxee is actually some core members of Zowie who left to make their own gaming company and Zowie has had arguably the best reputation among gaming mice companies for a very long time. Both make mice built like tanks and are proven eSports options, so you don't have to worry on that front.

New ec1 and ec2 dw are great

Looking at your foto it’s probably a palm grip, so I’d recommend either a very safe ambi shape like gpx 2 (many cheaper clones available) or maya x or an ergo like Deathadder v3/v4 pro (hyperspeed if you want smaller), Xlite v4 (es) medium, ec2-dw, e1 or superlight 2 dex

Zowie EC2 DW. I’m not even a gamer but the build quality, switches, and dock all make it a really great mouse even though it’s pricy. The thing is a fingerprint magnet though.

If you experience pain or discomfort, you need both rest and recovery. I would advise you to temporarily switch to a trackball like a logitech mx ergo or Kensington slimblade pro for your officework. Also take regular breaks and do strengthening exercises and stretches. Set your desk height properly as well. Switching to a more relaxed grip style as well as temporary setting higher in-game sens will drastically reduce strain on your wrist and hand. With time you should recover and be pain free. Good luck. Ergo shapes depend a lot on your grip style and hand size as well. A safe ergo would be a zowie ec1 dw, or ec2 dw if you want something more mid size.

looks like pincer claw try zowie ec mice

depends on ur hand size get zowie ec-dw series 1 and 2

Ec1 is larger and forces a palm grip even with pretty large hands. Most people will be much better off with the ec2 and if you use relaxed claw it's much better for micro adjustments while still offering a tonne of stability. I use an ec2 with 20x11cm hands and a relaxed claw

Nice mine are basically 20x10cm. Ec2 is all I use these days. Might grab a DAv3 wired to test though

Same hand size and but with relaxed claw grip. Really like the EC2. Ec1 forces me in to a full palm so get that if you want palm

Absolutely! Ec1 is only good for Palm gripping with 20Cm+ hands. Ec2 with any type of relaxed claw is a much better pick.

I don't think the ec1 is good for your hand side and grip. I'm the same size and like the ec2 better with a claw grip. Ec1 is comfy for full palm but always found it terrible for micro adjustments

Ec2. And nothing really. Just using the rawm er21 as zowie want too much for the DW

I've got 20x11cm hands with a very forgiving relaxed tilted claw grip. I can use anything and it's actually made picking and sticking with mice over the years tricky because it doesn't seem to matter much. However I've been on ec2 clones for the last few years now. Large mice like the ec1 offer poor agility and micro corrections for me, and really small mice seem to lack a little stability. Kovaak scores are a little better with nimble mice for me so I've settled right in the middle with medium mice. This just seems to offer the best of both stability and agility.