Zowie (BenQ) - FK2-DW 4K Wireless

I was looking for FK2-DW. 19/10cm hands and claw/relaxed claw grip type.

Best mouse i have tested so far i keep going back to it even if wired. At the moment I am with fk2 wireless because wanted to test docking charger that kinda improves wireless weakness. But really love. Op1

I have your grip and use the GPX 2 with no issues. Currently trying the Fk2-DW with this grip and also have very little issue.

my hands are 20.5 x 10.5 too and i always felt the fk2/1 is the best shape i've ever tried (used to use it back when i played cs and while buying a bunch of mice through the years never felt a shape as good) the long shape makes it so i can push the back of the mouse into my hand for stability, and the low ambi shape provides insane control index and middle finger at the top of the mouse (almost hanging off the mouse), and most of my palm not touching the mouse (relaxed palm/claw hybrid 1:2:2) supreme locked in control feeling with easy access to fingertip/wrist aiming when micro adjusting (just push the mouse out with fingers) im using ec1-cw rn for marvel rivals and apex legends but I dont think the ergo shape is for me.. it just feels like i have less control esp on micro adustments im gonna buy a fk2-dw soon if they don't release the fk1-dw. i should've waited for the fk1-dw instead of buying the ec1-cw but the OP18k was actively giving me carpal tunnel

I can deal with the size of fk2, the shape+my grip makes it okay, even though my index and middle fingers are kinda hanging off the top of the mouse.. I’ll wait for the fk1-dw it would be better

I’d seriously consider Zowie. Maybe something like the fk2-dw would be relatively close to the model O, just a little flatter maybe. Could consider the S2 if you want something a little taller and bulkier. The zowie mice have optical scroll wheels which is the absolute best in terms of durability. There are very few other companies that use optical scroll wheels. Fair warning, these wheels are loud and extremely notchy so, that’s a downside if it bothers you but it’s very unlikely they will ever fail.

You can absolutely tell 1mm difference in hand. Well if you don't mind the sides to be thinner, I'd suggest zowie fk2-dw, viper v2 pro got bad scroll wheel encoder

thanks everyone, I appreciate the recs. I had some amazon credit and decided to go with the Zowie FK2-DW first based on a couple recs here as well as some google search results. It has a considerably smaller profile than the DeathAdder v3 according to Eloshapes. Should be here in a couple days, but I need to rest my wrist for a week first. Hopefully it works out well. Thanks again everyone.

I use a BenQ Zowie, no software at all you change DPI, polling rate , and debounce distance by just pressing buttons on the bottom of the mouse. I love it; no bloatware to worry about.

I used to play with microsoft wheel mouse optical 1.1 (which is the original sensor that PWNs sensors are on every mouses now and the intellimouse same sensor is what inspired the deathadder shape) and that sensor was FLAWLESS, no feeling of acceleration, parasite firmware messing up the aim until you play hundreds of hours to get used to, so flawless you could just pick up the mouse and litteraly shred. The sensor was pointed to the front of the mouse which fit my gripstyle perfectly and keep my crosshair headlevel at all time without even having to think about it. Fast forward to 2024 i wanted to get back in competitive but felt that even 1k hz was too low nowadays. I bought every possible mice hoping to get the same feel; Zowie fk2 / Zowie fk2-DW / Pulsar x2v2 / Pulsar x2 Crazylight / Razer deathadder / glorious o, and NONE felt like that perfection i was used to until i bought the Superlight 2. They really nailed the sensor, no bs accel, or "aditives" just as they mention on their packaging. It felt like i was back in my competitive days and all the muscle memory kicked in. The shape personally is just what i need aswell, not too bulky but enough of a back hump to fit in my palm to stabilise my horizontal mouse movements. I am absolutely satisfied with this mouse and even have a 2nd one just in case the one i'm using right now breaks. I don't care about all those "don't be mainstream" comments i see about the mouse just because it's logitech. But for me they built something that no other mouse manufacturer could. This mouse is just perfect.

I used to play with microsoft wheel mouse optical 1.1 (which is the original sensor that PWNs sensors are on every mouses now and the intellimouse same sensor is what inspired the deathadder shape) and that sensor was FLAWLESS, no feeling of acceleration, parasite firmware messing up the aim until you play hundreds of hours to get used to, so flawless you could just pick up the mouse and litteraly shred. The sensor was pointed to the front of the mouse which fit my gripstyle perfectly and keep my crosshair headlevel at all time without even having to think about it. Fast forward to 2024 i wanted to get back in competitive but felt that even 1k hz was too low nowadays. I bought every possible mice hoping to get the same feel; Zowie fk2 / Zowie fk2-DW / Pulsar x2v2 / Pulsar x2 Crazylight / Razer deathadder / glorious o, and NONE felt like that perfection i was used to until i bought the Superlight 2. They really nailed the sensor, no bs accel, or "aditives" just as they mention on their packaging. It felt like i was back in my competitive days and all the muscle memory kicked in. The shape personally is just what i need aswell, not too bulky but enough of a back hump to fit in my palm to stabilise my horizontal mouse movements. I am absolutely satisfied with this mouse and even have a 2nd one just in case the one i'm using right now breaks. I don't care about all those "don't be mainstream" comments i see about the mouse just because it's logitech. But for me they built something that no other mouse manufacturer could. This mouse is just perfect.

Dang, you tried that whole zowie DW lineup lol. I’ve still yet to use a zowie ec, only shapes ive tried are u2, s2, and the one I use sometimes is fk2-dw,

Zowie mice clicks from lightest to heaviest: ec > za > s > fk I've owned them all before they were wireless and I've owned the entire current wireless collection. Specifically the FK2 has the heaviest clicks in the entire lineup and the EC1 has the lightest. I don't know what kind of FK2 this guy got but it's a unicorn. I've owned like 4 different copies of FK2 over the years and it's always heavy clicks.

I really wanted to love the fk2 dw since I mained og fk2 years ago but the clicks are so heavy and ass. Tried adjusting the bottom screws, sanding down underneath the shell for the clicks, made it slightly better but still trash. I can deal with heavier clicks on larger mice but on fk2 size it's awful.