Zowie (BenQ) - S2-C

I use Zowie S2-C but I'm not really high sense anymore cause valorant forces lower sens a bit. Shape is just top class, I like the rear hump and the inward sides.

Try a Waizowl Cloud on Aliexpress.. Sellers are selling them for $40 I own ZA12-C, ZA13-C, S1-C, S2-C and OP18K additionally a Intellimouse Pro.. - which gave me inspiration to checkout the Waizowl Cloud The ZA12-C grip width is perfect for me - other mice are just a little to narrow like you described. The Waizowl Cloud is super comfortable and I aim well with it. Checkout on eloshapes! - [https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=scyrox-v8-vs.-zowie-za13-c-vs.-zowie-za12-c-vs.-microsoft-pro-intellimouse-vs.-waizowl-ogm-cloud](https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=scyrox-v8-vs.-zowie-za13-c-vs.-zowie-za12-c-vs.-microsoft-pro-intellimouse-vs.-waizowl-ogm-cloud) For aggressive / comfortable claw the ZA12-C is still my fav.. perfect grip width and super comfortable round rear hump. The Waizowl Cloud is another fav shape easily with as much research as I've done comparing back and forth.. The tech and weight for the $ is also pretty great - idc for 4/8k hz mice.

My friend has the Viper V3 with 8K polling rate and dude can't even win a single 1v1 against me on the firing range I use the S2-C with paracord

No mouse software takes more than 500mb of space so I don't really understand your point of view. But i'm not here to argue so I recommend you to take a look at some wired Zowie mice they have dpi and polling rate buttons on them and no software needed. As for specific models I highly reccomend the S2-c very good and safe shape and you can find them at a reasonable price too.

Hi, After 6 years of not gaming at all I'm making a casual comeback to fps gaming. Im trying to find better replacement for my mouse Zowie S2 (first edition) which have double click, washed up skates. Hand size: 18.5x11cm Zowie S2 is good shape for me but at the beginning I've constantly changed my grip from princer/claw with wrist on mose to princer/fingertip with wrist on mousepad. My grip is available in photos. Shape in overall feels safe and restricted but size of S2 for me feels perfect. I feel like shape is too safe and something is missing and sometimes i have hand cramps(maybe grip issue?) History with previouse mices: Deathadder Elite - I aim pretty well with it and old grip but it was too big and hurt my ring finger a lot which led me to constant grip change. Zowie FK2 - The shape was amazing, low profile actually made me discover that I aim with symmetrical mouses the best but it felt too narrow and too long at the same time. Im still missing the shape. Zowie EC2 - I thought it will be good after i liked Deathadder but it made me hate ergo mouses because i couldn't aim at all, something was off and forced me to palm grip which i don't. Im putting shape over everyhing so im looking for perfect fit for my grip and size. Update: I ordered zowie za13-c for a test for 30$. I will create new post with results in next week.

Have both the viper V3 and deathadder V4 and think both are great mice. But based on shape between these two I would recommend the V3, as the Dav4 is a much larger / non ambi mouse coming from the viper v2. If you prefer the larger shape the main negative I have for the V4 is that it has really loud/ping-y clicks. They feel good, but I don't like using this mouse without headphones tbh. Also, the motion sync settings... No issue here. I usually play with it on anyways. Outside of Razer, I've loved using the Zowie S2, and they have a 'flatter' shape similar the the Viper V2 in the FK-DW shape. Also the Lamzo Maya & Maya X are solid. My favorite mouse at the moment is the Vaxee NP01S Ergo, but unfortunately my scroll wheel just broke on that one!

Zowie s2. Ultimate claw. Not to high in the back, still has some width and does not force your hand like xm1 etc

I have 17x7 hands and literally have the same grip and mice as you bro 😭. I would consider not getting fingertips mice (i'm using keychron m4 atm). I suggest looking for ambi mouse with finger grooves, preferably with slight back hump and high m1/m2 like zowie fk2 or s2

i personally dont like the xm2we(which has the same shape as xm1r) but solely due to the shape, other than that it is a good mouse. depends on what kind of shape you want for your mouse. if you want a safe option, or a mouse with a shape that can accomodate for multiple gripstyles and handsizes, there are many g pro superlight clones that are bascially just as good, such as mchose a7 pro or incott g23 (there are many others). zowie also still sells their wired c-series mice too which are also great options. you could also find some good deals for used options. I personally use the deathadder v3 wired.

Zowie c series or endgame gear for a quality and durable mouse

Buy zowie c series mouse or the endgame gear xm2 8k

Xm2 8k, dav3 wired, zowie c series

XM2 8k Zowie c series (EC, s, fk, za)

Depends EC for ergonomic, fk for claw/fingertip, s/za/u for claw grip