Zowie (BenQ) - S2-C

I use Zowie S2-C but I'm not really high sense anymore cause valorant forces lower sens a bit. Shape is just top class, I like the rear hump and the inward sides.

Try a Waizowl Cloud on Aliexpress.. Sellers are selling them for $40 I own ZA12-C, ZA13-C, S1-C, S2-C and OP18K additionally a Intellimouse Pro.. - which gave me inspiration to checkout the Waizowl Cloud The ZA12-C grip width is perfect for me - other mice are just a little to narrow like you described. The Waizowl Cloud is super comfortable and I aim well with it. Checkout on eloshapes! - [https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=scyrox-v8-vs.-zowie-za13-c-vs.-zowie-za12-c-vs.-microsoft-pro-intellimouse-vs.-waizowl-ogm-cloud](https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=scyrox-v8-vs.-zowie-za13-c-vs.-zowie-za12-c-vs.-microsoft-pro-intellimouse-vs.-waizowl-ogm-cloud) For aggressive / comfortable claw the ZA12-C is still my fav.. perfect grip width and super comfortable round rear hump. The Waizowl Cloud is another fav shape easily with as much research as I've done comparing back and forth.. The tech and weight for the $ is also pretty great - idc for 4/8k hz mice.

Hi, After 6 years of not gaming at all I'm making a casual comeback to fps gaming. Im trying to find better replacement for my mouse Zowie S2 (first edition) which have double click, washed up skates. Hand size: 18.5x11cm Zowie S2 is good shape for me but at the beginning I've constantly changed my grip from princer/claw with wrist on mose to princer/fingertip with wrist on mousepad. My grip is available in photos. Shape in overall feels safe and restricted but size of S2 for me feels perfect. I feel like shape is too safe and something is missing and sometimes i have hand cramps(maybe grip issue?) History with previouse mices: Deathadder Elite - I aim pretty well with it and old grip but it was too big and hurt my ring finger a lot which led me to constant grip change. Zowie FK2 - The shape was amazing, low profile actually made me discover that I aim with symmetrical mouses the best but it felt too narrow and too long at the same time. Im still missing the shape. Zowie EC2 - I thought it will be good after i liked Deathadder but it made me hate ergo mouses because i couldn't aim at all, something was off and forced me to palm grip which i don't. Im putting shape over everyhing so im looking for perfect fit for my grip and size. Update: I ordered zowie za13-c for a test for 30$. I will create new post with results in next week.

i personally dont like the xm2we(which has the same shape as xm1r) but solely due to the shape, other than that it is a good mouse. depends on what kind of shape you want for your mouse. if you want a safe option, or a mouse with a shape that can accomodate for multiple gripstyles and handsizes, there are many g pro superlight clones that are bascially just as good, such as mchose a7 pro or incott g23 (there are many others). zowie also still sells their wired c-series mice too which are also great options. you could also find some good deals for used options. I personally use the deathadder v3 wired.

I’d seriously consider Zowie. Maybe something like the fk2-dw would be relatively close to the model O, just a little flatter maybe. Could consider the S2 if you want something a little taller and bulkier. The zowie mice have optical scroll wheels which is the absolute best in terms of durability. There are very few other companies that use optical scroll wheels. Fair warning, these wheels are loud and extremely notchy so, that’s a downside if it bothers you but it’s very unlikely they will ever fail.

Have both the viper V3 and deathadder V4 and think both are great mice. But based on shape between these two I would recommend the V3, as the Dav4 is a much larger / non ambi mouse coming from the viper v2. If you prefer the larger shape the main negative I have for the V4 is that it has really loud/ping-y clicks. They feel good, but I don't like using this mouse without headphones tbh. Also, the motion sync settings... No issue here. I usually play with it on anyways. Outside of Razer, I've loved using the Zowie S2, and they have a 'flatter' shape similar the the Viper V2 in the FK-DW shape. Also the Lamzo Maya & Maya X are solid. My favorite mouse at the moment is the Vaxee NP01S Ergo, but unfortunately my scroll wheel just broke on that one!

Zowie s2. Ultimate claw. Not to high in the back, still has some width and does not force your hand like xm1 etc

Can I ask what type of game? Just curious. I think the ULX is pretty good for this, but I sometimes feel like I sacrifice stability with it. Zowie FK/S/ZA series are all excellent shapes for wrist aimers, just a bit dated in tech compared to today. It would also help for you to tell us how your hand measures since the advice will vary greatly depending on this factor

The wired zowie is better than all these 3. U will de dissapointed if u want it yo be ec2 level. What about Deathadder hyperspeed? that would be way better than all 3 and doesnt cost much more i think

Zowie c series or endgame gear for a quality and durable mouse

Buy zowie c series mouse or the endgame gear xm2 8k

Xm2 8k, dav3 wired, zowie c series

XM2 8k Zowie c series (EC, s, fk, za)

Depends EC for ergonomic, fk for claw/fingertip, s/za/u for claw grip

Check out mice with optical scroll wheel encoders it's usually has better longevity than mechanical encoders. Mice with optical scroll wheel - zowie c series, g502x/basilisk v3, leviathan v4, keychron m6.