Zowie (BenQ) - S2-C

I use Zowie S2-C but I'm not really high sense anymore cause valorant forces lower sens a bit. Shape is just top class, I like the rear hump and the inward sides.

Try a Waizowl Cloud on Aliexpress.. Sellers are selling them for $40 I own ZA12-C, ZA13-C, S1-C, S2-C and OP18K additionally a Intellimouse Pro.. - which gave me inspiration to checkout the Waizowl Cloud The ZA12-C grip width is perfect for me - other mice are just a little to narrow like you described. The Waizowl Cloud is super comfortable and I aim well with it. Checkout on eloshapes! - [https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=scyrox-v8-vs.-zowie-za13-c-vs.-zowie-za12-c-vs.-microsoft-pro-intellimouse-vs.-waizowl-ogm-cloud](https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=scyrox-v8-vs.-zowie-za13-c-vs.-zowie-za12-c-vs.-microsoft-pro-intellimouse-vs.-waizowl-ogm-cloud) For aggressive / comfortable claw the ZA12-C is still my fav.. perfect grip width and super comfortable round rear hump. The Waizowl Cloud is another fav shape easily with as much research as I've done comparing back and forth.. The tech and weight for the $ is also pretty great - idc for 4/8k hz mice.

Got the S2-C and yep I think i’m good with it until it stops working but feels so durable I think it could easily reach 5 years

My friend has the Viper V3 with 8K polling rate and dude can't even win a single 1v1 against me on the firing range I use the S2-C with paracord

No mouse software takes more than 500mb of space so I don't really understand your point of view. But i'm not here to argue so I recommend you to take a look at some wired Zowie mice they have dpi and polling rate buttons on them and no software needed. As for specific models I highly reccomend the S2-c very good and safe shape and you can find them at a reasonable price too.

Hi, After 6 years of not gaming at all I'm making a casual comeback to fps gaming. Im trying to find better replacement for my mouse Zowie S2 (first edition) which have double click, washed up skates. Hand size: 18.5x11cm Zowie S2 is good shape for me but at the beginning I've constantly changed my grip from princer/claw with wrist on mose to princer/fingertip with wrist on mousepad. My grip is available in photos. Shape in overall feels safe and restricted but size of S2 for me feels perfect. I feel like shape is too safe and something is missing and sometimes i have hand cramps(maybe grip issue?) History with previouse mices: Deathadder Elite - I aim pretty well with it and old grip but it was too big and hurt my ring finger a lot which led me to constant grip change. Zowie FK2 - The shape was amazing, low profile actually made me discover that I aim with symmetrical mouses the best but it felt too narrow and too long at the same time. Im still missing the shape. Zowie EC2 - I thought it will be good after i liked Deathadder but it made me hate ergo mouses because i couldn't aim at all, something was off and forced me to palm grip which i don't. Im putting shape over everyhing so im looking for perfect fit for my grip and size. Update: I ordered zowie za13-c for a test for 30$. I will create new post with results in next week.

Zowie s2. Ultimate claw. Not to high in the back, still has some width and does not force your hand like xm1 etc

Im surprised I didnt see a single Zowie mouse on the list. I've been comfortably using an S2 and havent thought of buying a new one for over 4 years. Is there a stigma against Zowie mouses in general? or are they just not popular? Genuinely curious.

I have 17x7 hands and literally have the same grip and mice as you bro 😭. I would consider not getting fingertips mice (i'm using keychron m4 atm). I suggest looking for ambi mouse with finger grooves, preferably with slight back hump and high m1/m2 like zowie fk2 or s2

i personally dont like the xm2we(which has the same shape as xm1r) but solely due to the shape, other than that it is a good mouse. depends on what kind of shape you want for your mouse. if you want a safe option, or a mouse with a shape that can accomodate for multiple gripstyles and handsizes, there are many g pro superlight clones that are bascially just as good, such as mchose a7 pro or incott g23 (there are many others). zowie also still sells their wired c-series mice too which are also great options. you could also find some good deals for used options. I personally use the deathadder v3 wired.

Zowie c series or endgame gear for a quality and durable mouse

Buy zowie c series mouse or the endgame gear xm2 8k

Xm2 8k, dav3 wired, zowie c series

XM2 8k Zowie c series (EC, s, fk, za)

Depends EC for ergonomic, fk for claw/fingertip, s/za/u for claw grip

Can I ask what type of game? Just curious. I think the ULX is pretty good for this, but I sometimes feel like I sacrifice stability with it. Zowie FK/S/ZA series are all excellent shapes for wrist aimers, just a bit dated in tech compared to today. It would also help for you to tell us how your hand measures since the advice will vary greatly depending on this factor

Zowie mice are super well made and long lasting and they have buttons underneath to change DPI and polling, no software. The wireless mice aren't cheap though, you'll need to look at a wired version.

The wired zowie is better than all these 3. U will de dissapointed if u want it yo be ec2 level. What about Deathadder hyperspeed? that would be way better than all 3 and doesnt cost much more i think

non pro viper wireless, razer deathadder, i'd argue g305 lightspeed, xtrfy m42, wired zowie, superlight 1, glorious wired, some lgg mice, some vaxee mice, endgame gear op1k. All these are like 25-80€ if my quick currency version is right. Some of these are wireless too. Especially if you snipe a sale you can get a really good deal. in "top tier mice" I mean the ones that are basically the same shape as the "standards", superlight 2, viper v3 pro, deathadder v3 pro, etc. Obviously the tech is a bit worse, but we were hitting insane shots on mice 15+ years ago, even the worse mice are 100% good enough. 4k/8k polling doesnt change that much, and thats the major sell of the more expensive mice. I've managed to pick up qck+ for like 10€ on average the last few years, always on sale somewhere. Otherwise a sale on a lgg saturn (standard), zowie gsr (any version you prefer). Qck might not be the longest lasting, but it's usually on a good sale so you never really have to fork out more than AT MOST 40€ a year on it if you're really picky with pad and swap it 4x a year, but most ppl usually keep it for 6-24 months atleast.