Zowie (BenQ) - ZA11-C

I have pretty gigantic hands (around 22x11.5), I've tried a lot of the biggest mice that are still relatively lightweight (ZA11, FK1+, Deathadder V3, Mountain Makalu 67, Glorious Model D), and none of them quite provide the seamless comfort I've looked for for my entire mouse journey. I'm now kind of in a mental battle where I'm doing playing a lot of valorant and doing aim training, but my aim is still lacking, and I'm wondering if I'm just not gifted at all, or if it has to do with the fact that no mouse is truly comfortable for me. Should I just try to DIY my own massive, light-ish mouse at this point? Or should I get one of those mice that's really big but also super heavy and hope it'll be okay for competitive fps? Or should I just git gud? All kinds of help and tips are appreciated. If a genie suddenly appeared in front of me and offered me anything right now, my wish would be a 60 gram, 140cm long G Pro Superlight, lmao. TLDR - I have big ass hands and need help

I've thought about that as well, the transition period just seems quite daunting, I feel like I've already wasted so much time trying so many mice and making small adjustments to my grip style, with no marked improvements in game comfort wise. On the other hand, fingertip probably is the one style that really does work for any handsize, plus I could then use wireless mice again (cause the biggest of the biggest mice are all zowie and wired). Maybe I'll go for it, if I don't get any more actionable suggestions under this post

i personally dont like the xm2we(which has the same shape as xm1r) but solely due to the shape, other than that it is a good mouse. depends on what kind of shape you want for your mouse. if you want a safe option, or a mouse with a shape that can accomodate for multiple gripstyles and handsizes, there are many g pro superlight clones that are bascially just as good, such as mchose a7 pro or incott g23 (there are many others). zowie also still sells their wired c-series mice too which are also great options. you could also find some good deals for used options. I personally use the deathadder v3 wired.

X2h is much more filling in your palm than the maya x and gpx. Maybe you need something like za 12 or za 11 even

One of zowie fk series or za11

I bought the large zowie mouse and only used it for like 2 minutes. It was painfully narrow.

Zowie mice clicks from lightest to heaviest: ec > za > s > fk I've owned them all before they were wireless and I've owned the entire current wireless collection. Specifically the FK2 has the heaviest clicks in the entire lineup and the EC1 has the lightest. I don't know what kind of FK2 this guy got but it's a unicorn. I've owned like 4 different copies of FK2 over the years and it's always heavy clicks.

I gave up on claw or palm grip mice because none were big enough, I’ve tried them all (EC-1, G403, ZA-11 and more) Had to move to small fingertip mice.

21x11cm. I can’t claw my G403, ZA-11, EC-1, or pulsar xlite large (all the largest mice on the market) without my fingers going way past the scroll wheel almost hanging off the front, and the thumb going way past the side buttons. My XM2 feels minuscule to try and claw especially with the tapered in sides. Thus I have to fingertip grip.

Am I crazy? My EC-1 feels worlds smaller than my waizowl cloud, ZA-11, and Pulsar X3. The hump is so far forward I don’t get how people rest their hand on it without hanging their fingers off the front.

No Zowie on the FPS list is kinda crazy to me. Zowie is BenQs mouse brand, it’s a no frills very high quality mouse. No software no firmware updates, 4 DPI presets. They are consistently the best FPS mice I’ve owned. On the flip side, Logi G600 is hands down the best MMO mouse, it actually promotes me to be so lazy with keybinds I find myself using it in games other than MMOs. Protip: the older Logi Gaming Software works way better than the newer LGS for the G600.

Waizowl cloud, pulsar xlite large, zowie za 11, those my favorite (up to date) bigger mice shapes

here some of the biggest mice, za11, waizowl cloud, pulsar xlite large, when i see your grup it looks like your palm actually rest on the mousepad, you could have a decent grip on the xlite large

tried all mice above, dont recommend stuff i've havent tried, za11 schould be more filling your hand so yea could say its bigger, they both same in lenght but za11 has a huge hump

i also like this grip and tried the biggest mice out there, your best choices if you dont wanna Adapter your grip would be like waizowl cloud, zowie za 11 c, za 11c fills your Hand almost completly prob(my Hand size 20x10cm) waizowl cloud is a bit overhanging but still works great with it, tried like every big shape out there imo ergos are not build for this with deathadder v3 or pulsar xlite v3 large i dont get a comfy grip with this hand grip, the best mouse shape i tried for this grip was steelseries rival 300 but i dont recommend that one, the mouse doesnt get Produce anymore and they like 10-12years old at this point, you can tell when you use it, its pretty outdated

Can I ask what type of game? Just curious. I think the ULX is pretty good for this, but I sometimes feel like I sacrifice stability with it. Zowie FK/S/ZA series are all excellent shapes for wrist aimers, just a bit dated in tech compared to today. It would also help for you to tell us how your hand measures since the advice will vary greatly depending on this factor