Zowie (BenQ) - ZA11-C

Waizowl cloud, pulsar xlite large, zowie za 11, those my favorite (up to date) bigger mice shapes

here some of the biggest mice, za11, waizowl cloud, pulsar xlite large, when i see your grup it looks like your palm actually rest on the mousepad, you could have a decent grip on the xlite large

tried all mice above, dont recommend stuff i've havent tried, za11 schould be more filling your hand so yea could say its bigger, they both same in lenght but za11 has a huge hump

i also like this grip and tried the biggest mice out there, your best choices if you dont wanna Adapter your grip would be like waizowl cloud, zowie za 11 c, za 11c fills your Hand almost completly prob(my Hand size 20x10cm) waizowl cloud is a bit overhanging but still works great with it, tried like every big shape out there imo ergos are not build for this with deathadder v3 or pulsar xlite v3 large i dont get a comfy grip with this hand grip, the best mouse shape i tried for this grip was steelseries rival 300 but i dont recommend that one, the mouse doesnt get Produce anymore and they like 10-12years old at this point, you can tell when you use it, its pretty outdated

Zowie c series or endgame gear for a quality and durable mouse

Xm2 8k, dav3 wired, zowie c series

XM2 8k Zowie c series (EC, s, fk, za)

Depends EC for ergonomic, fk for claw/fingertip, s/za/u for claw grip

Hyperx - haste 2 wired, pulse fire saga wired Razer - deathadder V3 Zowie - c generation mice (EC, fk, s, za)

Shape, size, wired (c wired version) and wireless (cw and dw are wireless dw being the latest wireless mice of zowie) u2-dw is a medium size Ambi mouse so I would suggest the s1-c or za11-c

I think he should wait for the darmoshark large mouse but yeah I agree he should post a picture of his grip style.

Looks like a combination of relaxed claw + aggressive claw like I said before you should wait for the large darmoshark mouse that is coming soon or buy the za11-c

Looks like a claw grip if you have bigger hands yes the v6 will feel small so I recommend the pulsar tenz or za11-c if you can handle a wired mouse. Btw can you measure your handsize in cm?

Check out mice with optical scroll wheel encoders it's usually has better longevity than mechanical encoders. Mice with optical scroll wheel - zowie c series, g502x/basilisk v3, leviathan v4, keychron m6.

I can list good wired mice - op18k v2/XM2 8k v2, dav3 wired, pulsefire haste 2 wired, pulsefire saga wired, redragon m996 wired, zowie c series.

G502x, basilisk v3, zowie c series (EC, s, fk, za)

I have pretty gigantic hands (around 22x11.5), I've tried a lot of the biggest mice that are still relatively lightweight (ZA11, FK1+, Deathadder V3, Mountain Makalu 67, Glorious Model D), and none of them quite provide the seamless comfort I've looked for for my entire mouse journey. I'm now kind of in a mental battle where I'm doing playing a lot of valorant and doing aim training, but my aim is still lacking, and I'm wondering if I'm just not gifted at all, or if it has to do with the fact that no mouse is truly comfortable for me. Should I just try to DIY my own massive, light-ish mouse at this point? Or should I get one of those mice that's really big but also super heavy and hope it'll be okay for competitive fps? Or should I just git gud? All kinds of help and tips are appreciated. If a genie suddenly appeared in front of me and offered me anything right now, my wish would be a 60 gram, 140cm long G Pro Superlight, lmao. TLDR - I have big ass hands and need help

I've thought about that as well, the transition period just seems quite daunting, I feel like I've already wasted so much time trying so many mice and making small adjustments to my grip style, with no marked improvements in game comfort wise. On the other hand, fingertip probably is the one style that really does work for any handsize, plus I could then use wireless mice again (cause the biggest of the biggest mice are all zowie and wired). Maybe I'll go for it, if I don't get any more actionable suggestions under this post

X2h is much more filling in your palm than the maya x and gpx. Maybe you need something like za 12 or za 11 even

One of zowie fk series or za11

I gave up on claw or palm grip mice because none were big enough, I’ve tried them all (EC-1, G403, ZA-11 and more) Had to move to small fingertip mice.

21x11cm. I can’t claw my G403, ZA-11, EC-1, or pulsar xlite large (all the largest mice on the market) without my fingers going way past the scroll wheel almost hanging off the front, and the thumb going way past the side buttons. My XM2 feels minuscule to try and claw especially with the tapered in sides. Thus I have to fingertip grip.

Am I crazy? My EC-1 feels worlds smaller than my waizowl cloud, ZA-11, and Pulsar X3. The hump is so far forward I don’t get how people rest their hand on it without hanging their fingers off the front.

Mice are their own rabbit hole. It all depends on your grip style, hand size and budget. I have a Zowie ZA11 that was modded to be wireless with Razer Viper V2 guts. I love the shape because it’s symmetrical with a large center hump. It fits well in my 20x11 hands.

Was such a good mouse. Loved it. Zowie ZA scratches the itch and more for me now

Rival 300 was my first proper mouse. Miss that thing. I moved to Zowie ZA series, the hump placement is similar

Zowie mice clicks from lightest to heaviest: ec > za > s > fk I've owned them all before they were wireless and I've owned the entire current wireless collection. Specifically the FK2 has the heaviest clicks in the entire lineup and the EC1 has the lightest. I don't know what kind of FK2 this guy got but it's a unicorn. I've owned like 4 different copies of FK2 over the years and it's always heavy clicks.

Pulsar Tenz, LAMZU Inca or Zowie za would be my recommendations if you want good palm support