Zowie (BenQ) - ZA12

I've had the same experience with the outward tapering of ergo mice, I hate how they feel like they're going to slip when picked up. Which is why I ended up with the symmetric ZA12. But it isn't curved like the g305.

I personally use zowie za12. I recommend it if you play claw and relaxed claw . Btw the 12 is the medium size . 13 small and 11 big .

Right, yeah. Will definitely give the ZA12 (and ZA11) a go for this. I'm trying it out rn and it feels decent, need more deathmatches though. Thanks!

za...12 or what that is on the screenshot? probably your best bet and if you wanna get a new one, can \*highly\* recommend the xm2, 8k or 4kw depending on your budget

X2h is much more filling in your palm than the maya x and gpx. Maybe you need something like za 12 or za 11 even

I had a look EloShapes, the hump profile is similar to the Zowie ZA13 with the side-width of ZA12. (the sides matches perfectly with the ZA12 actually). Set the alignment in Eloshapes to "bottom-centre" and you can see it's 1-to-1 with the ZA12.

Hmm the shape is more similar to the ZA12/ZA13 on Eloshapes.

Closest shape would be the ZA12/ZA13, but a lot heavier.

Zowie mice are super well made and long lasting and they have buttons underneath to change DPI and polling, no software. The wireless mice aren't cheap though, you'll need to look at a wired version.

To be fair ZA13 might be a good contender too, I've tried ZA12 before and it's very high right in the back, it sits right into the back of your hand so it might be a good choice

What does small mean ? Flat or less wide ? U probably having problem with it being flat. Mod the hump with grip tape layers to make it taller Taller back hump mice should be best for u if u want big or bulky mouse to have palm contact Suggest u the za13 or za12 by zowie or pulsar x2h I have 21x10 hands and I modify my mice with tapes for taller hump and I perform better that way as low tension grip. My hand cramps with mice otherwise. Making any mouse taller makes it feel instantly better. U cud also made the back flare wider of ergo mice with tape. Making mouse tall generally fizes stuff. Mouse these days also come with rounded grip pieces to apply on top of the shell. My atk x1 (vv3 clone) did U can look at my previous posts. Za13 za12 n x2h r best for this.

The wired zowie is better than all these 3. U will de dissapointed if u want it yo be ec2 level. What about Deathadder hyperspeed? that would be way better than all 3 and doesnt cost much more i think

Bro, everything is good for palm. I never seen a mouse i cant palm, even the g303 i palmed lol. 0 discomfort, even palm the gwolves mini mice (18/10 hands). My fav shapes were za12 ec2 mx518

Same here although soon after I got a zowie za12