ZA12-B

I've had the same experience with the outward tapering of ergo mice, I hate how they feel like they're going to slip when picked up. Which is why I ended up with the symmetric ZA12. But it isn't curved like the g305.

Right, yeah. Will definitely give the ZA12 (and ZA11) a go for this. I'm trying it out rn and it feels decent, need more deathmatches though. Thanks!

To be fair ZA13 might be a good contender too, I've tried ZA12 before and it's very high right in the back, it sits right into the back of your hand so it might be a good choice

What does small mean ? Flat or less wide ? U probably having problem with it being flat. Mod the hump with grip tape layers to make it taller Taller back hump mice should be best for u if u want big or bulky mouse to have palm contact Suggest u the za13 or za12 by zowie or pulsar x2h I have 21x10 hands and I modify my mice with tapes for taller hump and I perform better that way as low tension grip. My hand cramps with mice otherwise. Making any mouse taller makes it feel instantly better. U cud also made the back flare wider of ergo mice with tape. Making mouse tall generally fizes stuff. Mouse these days also come with rounded grip pieces to apply on top of the shell. My atk x1 (vv3 clone) did U can look at my previous posts. Za13 za12 n x2h r best for this.

I’m similar, 19.6x10, I like mice with humps in the back of my palm and I claw. My favorite shapes are Za12(dw coming out in August), Vaxee Sora, Lycan, Xm2. I’ve gotta sora 3 coming in, I’ll lyk if I like it

Honestly rn I’m preferring the za13 shape over everything, still want to try the za12 dw when it comes, but since your hands are a bit shorter than mine, za13-dw should be perfect.