ZA13-C

Try a Waizowl Cloud on Aliexpress.. Sellers are selling them for $40 I own ZA12-C, ZA13-C, S1-C, S2-C and OP18K additionally a Intellimouse Pro.. - which gave me inspiration to checkout the Waizowl Cloud The ZA12-C grip width is perfect for me - other mice are just a little to narrow like you described. The Waizowl Cloud is super comfortable and I aim well with it. Checkout on eloshapes! - [https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=scyrox-v8-vs.-zowie-za13-c-vs.-zowie-za12-c-vs.-microsoft-pro-intellimouse-vs.-waizowl-ogm-cloud](https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=scyrox-v8-vs.-zowie-za13-c-vs.-zowie-za12-c-vs.-microsoft-pro-intellimouse-vs.-waizowl-ogm-cloud) For aggressive / comfortable claw the ZA12-C is still my fav.. perfect grip width and super comfortable round rear hump. The Waizowl Cloud is another fav shape easily with as much research as I've done comparing back and forth.. The tech and weight for the $ is also pretty great - idc for 4/8k hz mice.

just curious what about these mice, x2 crazllight, vxe r1, mad r major, scyrox v8, za13-c, lamzu inca

i personally dont like the xm2we(which has the same shape as xm1r) but solely due to the shape, other than that it is a good mouse. depends on what kind of shape you want for your mouse. if you want a safe option, or a mouse with a shape that can accomodate for multiple gripstyles and handsizes, there are many g pro superlight clones that are bascially just as good, such as mchose a7 pro or incott g23 (there are many others). zowie also still sells their wired c-series mice too which are also great options. you could also find some good deals for used options. I personally use the deathadder v3 wired.

Just a you issue. Also might add you basically bought the same mouse shape over and over again based on your photos. If you’re gonna keep going, you might as well try something with a little bit of contour. Like a zowie mouse or something. I’m za13 ride or die.

GPX. I am by no means a mouse collector but out of all the mice I have tried, I feel I play the best on it. In fact, I no longer care about mice now that I have a GPX tbh. My 2nd place would be the ZA13-C, but after getting the GPX I found that the huge hump on the ZA13-C was less comfortable. Also, the really low button height on the ZA13-C left me much less room for my fingers on the side of the mouse, as I like to extend them towards the front of the mouse. The weight and the freedom of wireless also helps a whole lot.

Razer cobra wired Zowie c series (ec3-c, za13-c, s2-c, fk2-c) these are all small mice of zowie and they're all high quality plus it uses an optical scroll wheel like the g502 hero

Depends EC for ergonomic, fk for claw/fingertip, s/za/u for claw grip

Check out mice with optical scroll wheel encoders it's usually has better longevity than mechanical encoders. Mice with optical scroll wheel - zowie c series, g502x/basilisk v3, leviathan v4, keychron m6.

I can list good wired mice - op18k v2/XM2 8k v2, dav3 wired, pulsefire haste 2 wired, pulsefire saga wired, redragon m996 wired, zowie c series.

G502x, basilisk v3, zowie c series (EC, s, fk, za)

Check out the steelseries prime / prime mini wired the mini is lighter tho Zowie c series mice - they're on 70+ weight but zowie discontinued it so chances are you're going to buy a second hand unit