Zowie (BenQ) - ZA13-DW

My recent experience - purchased and tried 10+ mouses in October: Rog Ace Aim, Rog Gladius 3, Pulsar x2h, Pulsar x3, Zowie ZA13 DW, Teevolution Terra Pro, Scyrox v8, DAV3 Hyperspeed and DAV4 Pro. The most anticipated one was the Terra, seconded by the Zowie. Ended up only keeping the two DAVs. Don't need two but can't decide which one to give up. In my view they are miles better than the others I tried.

The za13-dw is the same great shape at the za11-c just a bit bigger and only weighs 65g.

Ive been trying out za13 dw for 2 weeks sometimes it feels great but im playing warzone which has quite a bit of vertical movement. I feel a bit too much of a restriction on my hand. I believe i have to switch back to xm2 4k again

What hand size works best for this I got small ahhhhh hands around 17.78-18cm long x 9.5-10cm wide and I like narrow ahhhh nice like the Finalmouse ULX competition cheetah, Zowie ZA13-DW and Endgame Gear OP18K and find the Zowie ZA13-DW too long so I’m pretty much looking for a shorter Zowie ZA13-DW with same width and shorter length so it’s short enough I can aggressively clawgrip it and that would be perfect for endgame.

Recently moved from ZA-11 to XM2We, it's a nice mouse but I lost a lot of the precise control that the ZA shape offers. So then I picked up a ZA-13DW and absolutely love it. As far as I know there isn't another mouse with this shape.

Was such a good mouse. Loved it. Zowie ZA scratches the itch and more for me now

Rival 300 was my first proper mouse. Miss that thing. I moved to Zowie ZA series, the hump placement is similar

I got 21 x 11.5 cm hands and I use a Zowie ZA13-DW for my competitive gaming. It's tiny but the smaller size and lighter weight helps with aiming for me and because of the way the hump is shaped it will works in my larger hands. I tried mice that were designed for bigger hands such as the EG XM2 and I just couldn't get used to the shape. For comfort I have an old Zowie ZA11 that I use while browsing the web etc.

Regarding ergos, I feel the same way. Lamzu Thorn is the only one I've had that doesn't have this issue. By far the best ergo mouse I've tried. That being said, I actually main the ZA-13 DW. It has that "hourglass" shape, but it's a narrow enough mouse with a deep enough groove that I find it very comfortable and precise.

Woah. How tall are you? I'm 6'2" with 20x11.5cm hands. So, a decent amount longer and wider than average. I think you would like the Zowie ZA-13 DW. Frankly, no mouse would be long enough for you to palm, so you have to look for comfortable claw options. The ZA-13 is decently long, but importantly it has a large hump, so it will take up a lot of hand real-estate. It's also quite narrow, which for me anyways makes aiming more natural. Your hand looks more slender than mine, so the narrow shape will probably be even better for you.

OP1 and ZA13-DW depending on how meaty you want the hump to be. Closest to the Viper Mini would be the Hitscan Hyperlight with a slight backhump that isn't pointy or meaty.

i second this, ZA13-DW has been out for a while though, so they are ''updated'' Not sure they're out in glossy yet though, if that's what u meant.

Hard to say what you will find the most comfortable, but u2 is the ”safer” shape. The ZA is very hump oriented, but i very much like it for claw. I have not used the u2, but i have used every other mouse in size medium (2) and i much prefer the za for claw. The s2 also feels good, but like people have mentioned the dw makes an already small mouse even smaller, making it feel very flat so i’d avoid s2. I would probably go u2 here, it’s a safe shape and has the back palm support you’re probably after. You might also like the viper v3.

Depends EC for ergonomic, fk for claw/fingertip, s/za/u for claw grip

Za13-dw if you knuckle claw grip because the highest point of the mouse is towards the middle which will make contact with your index and middle finger knuckles. You can also try the X2hv3 mini, op18k v2.

Larger back hump try the pulsar tenz, X2H v3, za13-dw (the tallest point of the hump is on the middle)

I have the za13-dw I can't relaxed claw it due to the low button height and aggressive curvature on both sides, I prefer a tall mouse at the front and just a good curve (not aggressive) for relaxed claw

I recommend the za13-dw/S2-DW and the upcoming Sora v3 if you want to try some claw grip mice

For me the za13-dw would be nice if the length is 116mm I found it too long.

Ec3-DW, Dav3 hs, Vv3p, Superlight 2c. Hand size is 19 x 10 cm and Claw grip. Main Game: Overwatch Current Rank: Master5 on tank, Master 3 on dps, Gm5 on support Main Mouse: Dav3hs Dav3 hs and vv3p are what I kept from my last collection culling, they were my favorite ergo and ambi that I tried and those two I plan to keep and never sell (Im not a razer shill I promise lol). Ec3 and gpx 2c are mice that I am still testing out atm and ultimately I will decide whether to keep or sell them. I also want to try Vaxee’s lineup (xe v2, np01s v2, E1) but I wish they sold on Amazon. Maybe one day. My last collection post: https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/comments/1i01sdj/mouse_collection_pic/ Mice that I Sold: dav3 pro: too big, not unusably but was a bit unwieldy. S2-DW: was fine size-wise and shape-wise but didnt really use it over the vv3 pro. FK2-DW: too flat. i prefer a bump for stability when aiming. ZA13-DW: most unique shape I’ve tried. It was fine but I prefer the more general(?) shape of the vv3p. EC2-DW: size was fine but i preferred dav3hs. I know alot of people rave about the ec shape but it didnt do anything for me personally. xm2w 4k: I actually liked this shape but the way endgame gear handled the op1w 4k v2 malware issue (took them like 3-4 weeks to make an official statement and inform their customers) left a bad taste in my mouth so I sold it. I don’t want to support this company with my money. gpx dex: similar big size to dav3 pro but the shape and coating made it easier to grip for me. I would have no problems using this but I just prefer smaller ergos. U2-DW: claw grip mouse but I didnt like the locked in feeling it gave. rvmse: too small op1w 4k: too thin gpx2: size is fine but after years of trying to use this shape I was never able to get used to it. I only tried for so long bc so many pros use it but it just doesnt work for me.

yah haha every one except the e1-dw which I think would be too big. Ec3->ec2 for me personally. The naming is confusing because it’s not just smaller but the ec3 is wider and shorter. For me most favorite to least would be: 1. S2 2. ec3 3. za13 4. ec2 5. fk2 6. u2 Ec3 might be #1 over the S2 but I am not sure yet I need to test it more. also ec2 and fk2 might be switched but its been a while since Ive used them so I dont really remember.