ZA13-DW

My recent experience - purchased and tried 10+ mouses in October: Rog Ace Aim, Rog Gladius 3, Pulsar x2h, Pulsar x3, Zowie ZA13 DW, Teevolution Terra Pro, Scyrox v8, DAV3 Hyperspeed and DAV4 Pro. The most anticipated one was the Terra, seconded by the Zowie. Ended up only keeping the two DAVs. Don't need two but can't decide which one to give up. In my view they are miles better than the others I tried.

Ive been trying out za13 dw for 2 weeks sometimes it feels great but im playing warzone which has quite a bit of vertical movement. I feel a bit too much of a restriction on my hand. I believe i have to switch back to xm2 4k again

Recently moved from ZA-11 to XM2We, it's a nice mouse but I lost a lot of the precise control that the ZA shape offers. So then I picked up a ZA-13DW and absolutely love it. As far as I know there isn't another mouse with this shape.

I got 21 x 11.5 cm hands and I use a Zowie ZA13-DW for my competitive gaming. It's tiny but the smaller size and lighter weight helps with aiming for me and because of the way the hump is shaped it will works in my larger hands. I tried mice that were designed for bigger hands such as the EG XM2 and I just couldn't get used to the shape. For comfort I have an old Zowie ZA11 that I use while browsing the web etc.

Zowie just released the ZA12 wireless. I went from ZA13 to ZA11-DW to move away from wired mice. I enjoy the smaller size but would definitely prefer the ZA12. I think that'll be end game if I decide to pick it up.

Was such a good mouse. Loved it. Zowie ZA scratches the itch and more for me now

Rival 300 was my first proper mouse. Miss that thing. I moved to Zowie ZA series, the hump placement is similar

Regarding ergos, I feel the same way. Lamzu Thorn is the only one I've had that doesn't have this issue. By far the best ergo mouse I've tried. That being said, I actually main the ZA-13 DW. It has that "hourglass" shape, but it's a narrow enough mouse with a deep enough groove that I find it very comfortable and precise.

Woah. How tall are you? I'm 6'2" with 20x11.5cm hands. So, a decent amount longer and wider than average. I think you would like the Zowie ZA-13 DW. Frankly, no mouse would be long enough for you to palm, so you have to look for comfortable claw options. The ZA-13 is decently long, but importantly it has a large hump, so it will take up a lot of hand real-estate. It's also quite narrow, which for me anyways makes aiming more natural. Your hand looks more slender than mine, so the narrow shape will probably be even better for you.

OP1 and ZA13-DW depending on how meaty you want the hump to be. Closest to the Viper Mini would be the Hitscan Hyperlight with a slight backhump that isn't pointy or meaty.

For me the FK1+ felt the best for palm grip but its a long way till it gets a wireless version. Right now the EC1-DW is your best bet. I would stay away from ZA, S and U series as they all are claw orriented shapes.