ZYGEN (VAXEE) - E1 Wireless (4K)

I have the same size hands and had almost the same problem with the same mice - aggressive claw grip so no pinky dragging, but I had to curl too much for the HyperSpeed. Landed on a Vaxee E1 and it fits me perfectly.  It and the Zowie EC2-DW its shape is based on are worth checking out. The E1 sometimes does feel a bit short in my hand, but the EC2 is supposed to be a bit longer so it might work better for you since your grip seems and sounds a bit less aggressive than mine. Consider nabbing them secondhand if the price is prohibitive (they pretty much don't go on sale ever). edit: Also important to note those Deathadder shapes you tried are based off the EC1/2, so it'll be a familiar shape to you.

have the DAV3HS and had the same issue with it being slightly too small, very similar hand size as well (less wide by .5cm). Vaxee E1 is a really good fit for me. essentially the same shape yet sized up by a slight amount, most noticeably in the back where my hand sits quite a bit higher. for a significantly more supportive mouse, pulsar zywoo might be a good fit.

> Weight means very little in competitive gaming. Price doesn't matter if the product is right for you. It's funny, weight for me is more important in my competitive gaming career nowadays and it's hard for me to go back to anything over 50g. But you're right though, if product is right then price is no object. I went from Zowie to Vaxee to FM to finally settling on the Pulsar X2 CL. That's over $600 spent on just four mice (if we're talking specifics, I spent way more than that on more than four mice). I'm even willing to spend more if Zowie ever goes the Pulsar route and begin venturing onto lightweight mice. In fact, I'll buy them in a heartbeat despite being over $150. Same goes for Vaxee, they are both fantastic companies.

> Vaxee E1 > Pulsar ZywOo edition Absolutely cannot go wrong with either of these, Budapest Major 2025 and IEM Kraków 2026 winning mice right here. The only other ergo you're missing is the EC2-DW Glossy White (flameZ).

The best ones in my opinion is the Dav3, Vaxee E1, Gpro Dex or wait for the EC2-DW.

VAXEE or Zowie, known for their perfect build quality. If you like the shape of your prime, look at VAXEE E1 or Zowie EC2-DW

I have all or most of the mice mentioned in your post, and similarly have had issues finding a mouse that had a right side that felt normal. The XM2w caused my hand to cramp (even tho I played awesome with it lol) The E1 is the best overall mouse I've ever used imho. The shape is second to none in my opinion. I have the ec2-dw, the pulsar super light size 1 & 2ES) and many other ergos that aren't nearly as comfy. The cons to the E1 are - the buttons have a specific bounce/spring to them, so there is a tiny bit of rattle if you slam your mouse often - the scroll wheel is fine - the side buttons have a bit of a corner to them, (I just sand it down) I'm currently switching between the E1, the Viper V3, the Zowie S2-dw Oh, and the Sora is an awesome mouse with a great shape. It's god a cool internal structure that was fun to mod and get the weight super low. I missed having the curved finger grooves (so I added my own) but overall it's an awesome mouse that I mained for months before I got into ergos. The pulsar super light is awesome, but had specific curves (along the right side and front) where I never felt 100% comfy. I have the v3ES and the v3 size 1, and both were a bit off for me. And I also didn't love the raesha optical switches.... Best scroll wheels tho! The XM2w is certainly the best built mouse of these three. If there was a version that didn't have such an aggressive inward curve along the right side I would likely be maining this mouse. That and I wish it had finger grooves... It's so solid tho... My personal rankings: 1. E1 2. Sora 3. Xlite (does the v4 still use Raesha optical switches??) 4. XM2w (but if you like the shape, its potentially #1)

I'm loving the Vaxee E1

I would chime in and mention the Vaxee E1 to this list. Absolute pleasure of a mouse.

The dex is not an ec2 clone, it feels at least for me way different. The dex fills the back of your palm more, you need to imagine holding a gpx but it has a wider back and also is taller, it is comfortable but it can easily force you into a specific grip. If you like the ec2 shape but want something slightly smaller you can try the vaxee e1, it feels like an ec2 but more agile. Also maybe look for the ec3. When it comes to dimensions: Ec2 > E1 > Ec3

I use the Vaxee E1 now. I feel like the clicks are perfect.

True, the price is hefty, but worth it. I'd rather spend it on this one again with good huano switches than my old lamzu maya x with bad omron opticals that became mushy and sticky after 3 months. I had to wait 2 months for Lamzu to send my money back and it was the worst mouse in my life. Vaxee asks more, but delivers more as well. Much more than Razer or Lamzu. You could go with Zowie as well if you want. Maybe that's a bit cheaper in your country.