OUTSET AX (Wired)

1. glorious model d 2 pro 4k/8k wireless 2. vaxee outset ax, because holding my side buttons practically don't work. If I hold to crouch, I basically don't even crouch at all, let alone keep crouching. Mouse button 5 is barely functional currently. I might need to swap the switches (don't have the skill) or disassemble and clean it up (I tried that once and semi ruined my stock mouse feet, which I still use, and the button was still faulty). 3. I like model D's shape. I feel most comfortable with it. The D2 pro feels slightly smaller than the old D, so I like it's shape slightly less. I think I would like D2 to be a bit fuller in my hands, but I might not like that fuller version, as I tried the zowie ec1 before and couldn't play with it well because it was too big for me. I also want the outset ax to be slightly taller but maybe if I try that taller outset I might like it less as well. I also don't like the small battery and slow wake up time on the D2.

I find this quite strange because I share the same concerns as you, but unlike you, the curved side of the EC2 is why I always used mice based on that; IME 3.0, and then EC2 versions over the years (EC2 OG with glossy sides, EC2 Blue rubberised, and a few years ago the EC2-DW. However, I switched to the Vaxee AX O because I experienced some skipping issues with a few EC2-DW units. My Vaxee has recently given me some double-clicking issues after a year and a half, and I'm thinking what's next

I have a similar grip and the same size hands, have tried many many different shapes and the bigger ergos are most comfortable for me. Its possible to go too big for gaming though; I like to have the ability to still drag down a bit within my palm. Mice similar to the ec2 shape/size are safe for me. I like the vaxee outset ax a lot. Xlite large is comfortable but I cant drag it within my palm much. Have a rapoo vt3 gen 2 on the way that I'm hoping will be my main. There are a good amount of options that could work; Lamzu Thorn is another I liked for a while

For that grip I recommend also checking out Outset AX from VAXEE and Lamzu Thorn. Generally speaking all the mice mentioned in this post will work for you well, you just have to iron out the options so you get the one that fits you the best.

I grew up on mx518 so I feel you. Nothing is really the same but for large, ergo mouse I have really enjoyed the new deathadders as well as Vaxee np-01 or outset. Pulsar zywoo mouse is gonna be my next try