ZYGEN (VAXEE) - OUTSET AX Wireless (4K)

Scyrox V8, Vaxee PA Black. Might also grab a printed one like the Zygen since I love having this much stopping power on a such a smooth surface, just wish there was a TINY bit less dynamic friction. The PA's strength though is that it doesn't have excessive "static friction", just really good stopping power while at the same time starting mouse movements is effortless. Scyrox V8 is honestly perfect. Sometimes I wonder if I would like it even more if it was just a tiny bit wider so I might try an X2H medium this black friday.

The larger NP-01feels like some parts are too big for my hands. I'm unclear whether it would be more suitable for larger hands, or if that's just a mismatch between the shape and my preferences. The Outset AX is the closest one to most of the mice you mention, but it's overall slightly smaller than the Terra. The blue color the Outset AX Wireless is offered in is my favorite -- the coating is significantly better than the black and yellow Vaxee mice I had tried previously. Some of the other colors are probably just as good in terms of the coating but I don't know so I won't recommend them.

1. glorious model d 2 pro 4k/8k wireless 2. vaxee outset ax, because holding my side buttons practically don't work. If I hold to crouch, I basically don't even crouch at all, let alone keep crouching. Mouse button 5 is barely functional currently. I might need to swap the switches (don't have the skill) or disassemble and clean it up (I tried that once and semi ruined my stock mouse feet, which I still use, and the button was still faulty). 3. I like model D's shape. I feel most comfortable with it. The D2 pro feels slightly smaller than the old D, so I like it's shape slightly less. I think I would like D2 to be a bit fuller in my hands, but I might not like that fuller version, as I tried the zowie ec1 before and couldn't play with it well because it was too big for me. I also want the outset ax to be slightly taller but maybe if I try that taller outset I might like it less as well. I also don't like the small battery and slow wake up time on the D2.

Vaxee Outset AX is my all time favorite.. It stopped my shopping frenzy for good

I find this quite strange because I share the same concerns as you, but unlike you, the curved side of the EC2 is why I always used mice based on that; IME 3.0, and then EC2 versions over the years (EC2 OG with glossy sides, EC2 Blue rubberised, and a few years ago the EC2-DW. However, I switched to the Vaxee AX O because I experienced some skipping issues with a few EC2-DW units. My Vaxee has recently given me some double-clicking issues after a year and a half, and I'm thinking what's next

I have a similar grip and the same size hands, have tried many many different shapes and the bigger ergos are most comfortable for me. Its possible to go too big for gaming though; I like to have the ability to still drag down a bit within my palm. Mice similar to the ec2 shape/size are safe for me. I like the vaxee outset ax a lot. Xlite large is comfortable but I cant drag it within my palm much. Have a rapoo vt3 gen 2 on the way that I'm hoping will be my main. There are a good amount of options that could work; Lamzu Thorn is another I liked for a while

For that grip I recommend also checking out Outset AX from VAXEE and Lamzu Thorn. Generally speaking all the mice mentioned in this post will work for you well, you just have to iron out the options so you get the one that fits you the best.

Also in the hunt for palm-able ergo. I am waiting for my VT3S gen 2 (same shape as Pro Max) after liking the VT3 gen 2. The latter is a bit bulky for my small hands while being the most comfortable. Here are a few alternatives you can also try: - EC2 clones: The long tail doesn't work for me. Many to choose from if it does for you. - G703: even bulkier. I tried the X3 mini which has flat buttons and is smaller. It gives you a lot more way more control like an ambi but it's not comfortable for me. - DEX: I only tried the 3D printed model shape. It feels grippier due to the narrow waist. I would try this next if VT3S is not working out for me. - OUTSET AX: also worth a shot as it's similar to VT3 with a narrower waist but a higher hump. It feels more controllable in my hands.

Thank god I got attached to the OP1 shape, I had the same issue of 27 mice. * OP1 8K White + Corepads * OP1w v2 4K Dark Frost * OP1we White * XM1r Dark Frost * Starlight Pro TenZ Small + Tiger ICE * HSK Plus Lite Pink * Hati S Ace Wireless + Corepads * Hati S Plus 4K Transparent Black * Hati S Plus 4K White + Obsidian Dots * Hati S Plus Classic + Ghostglide Dots * HTX 4K Ruby Red + Obsidian Dots * Lamzu Atlantis Mini * Logitech G Pro Superlight White * Pulsar X2 Super Clear Mini * Pulsar X2H Mini Black * Pulsar Xlite Mini Black + Corepads + Grips * Pulsar Xlite V2 Red * Razer Orochi V2 White + Superglides * Razer Viper Mini + Corepads * Sprime PM1 * Vaxee NP-01S Blue Wireless + BTL Grips * Vaxee NP-01S White * Vaxee Outset AX Funspark * Vaxee XE White * Xtrfy MZ1 + Corepads * Zowie EC2-A + Corepads * Zowie ZA13-C + Corepads

I have no idea what my grip style is, I think it's palm grip, but when I click to throw my fingers onto buttons 1 and 2, they're kind of claw-like. My hands are 17 cm long. The mouse I liked the most is the Vaxee AX 4k, it filled my hand quite well, mainly because its back is higher, but I'm finding it heavy (73g). I've used the EC2, Xlite V2 (it doesn't fill the hand as much because the back of the mouse is lower), Lamzu Thorn, and Atlantis Mini. I think I liked it more when I had the experience of using a mouse with a higher back and being able to firmly place both fingers on the right side. Which mouse should I test? DA V3 Pro? NP01? Some kind of ergonomic claw grip mouse? video showing my grip on the mouse https://youtu.be/JLMY3onGg_Q?si=QpZT3qi3ohoSBK6h