ZYGEN (VAXEE) - OUTSET AX Wireless (4K)

I find this quite strange because I share the same concerns as you, but unlike you, the curved side of the EC2 is why I always used mice based on that; IME 3.0, and then EC2 versions over the years (EC2 OG with glossy sides, EC2 Blue rubberised, and a few years ago the EC2-DW. However, I switched to the Vaxee AX O because I experienced some skipping issues with a few EC2-DW units. My Vaxee has recently given me some double-clicking issues after a year and a half, and I'm thinking what's next

I have a similar grip and the same size hands, have tried many many different shapes and the bigger ergos are most comfortable for me. Its possible to go too big for gaming though; I like to have the ability to still drag down a bit within my palm. Mice similar to the ec2 shape/size are safe for me. I like the vaxee outset ax a lot. Xlite large is comfortable but I cant drag it within my palm much. Have a rapoo vt3 gen 2 on the way that I'm hoping will be my main. There are a good amount of options that could work; Lamzu Thorn is another I liked for a while

Also, look into the vaxee ergo they released recently. That thing fucking rules

It's been my main for a while now. Kinda the closest thing I've seen to a true symmetrical ergo hybrid and it's vaxee so it's built like a tank.

For that grip I recommend also checking out Outset AX from VAXEE and Lamzu Thorn. Generally speaking all the mice mentioned in this post will work for you well, you just have to iron out the options so you get the one that fits you the best.

For me, it's EGG or Vaxee. Neither are following the "mega-ultra-super lightweight" philosophy, they care more about making incredible products. I've had my NP-01S v2 for around 6 months and I only regret not buying a Vaxee years earlier.

Thank god I got attached to the OP1 shape, I had the same issue of 27 mice. * OP1 8K White + Corepads * OP1w v2 4K Dark Frost * OP1we White * XM1r Dark Frost * Starlight Pro TenZ Small + Tiger ICE * HSK Plus Lite Pink * Hati S Ace Wireless + Corepads * Hati S Plus 4K Transparent Black * Hati S Plus 4K White + Obsidian Dots * Hati S Plus Classic + Ghostglide Dots * HTX 4K Ruby Red + Obsidian Dots * Lamzu Atlantis Mini * Logitech G Pro Superlight White * Pulsar X2 Super Clear Mini * Pulsar X2H Mini Black * Pulsar Xlite Mini Black + Corepads + Grips * Pulsar Xlite V2 Red * Razer Orochi V2 White + Superglides * Razer Viper Mini + Corepads * Sprime PM1 * Vaxee NP-01S Blue Wireless + BTL Grips * Vaxee NP-01S White * Vaxee Outset AX Funspark * Vaxee XE White * Xtrfy MZ1 + Corepads * Zowie EC2-A + Corepads * Zowie ZA13-C + Corepads

I have no idea what my grip style is, I think it's palm grip, but when I click to throw my fingers onto buttons 1 and 2, they're kind of claw-like. My hands are 17 cm long. The mouse I liked the most is the Vaxee AX 4k, it filled my hand quite well, mainly because its back is higher, but I'm finding it heavy (73g). I've used the EC2, Xlite V2 (it doesn't fill the hand as much because the back of the mouse is lower), Lamzu Thorn, and Atlantis Mini. I think I liked it more when I had the experience of using a mouse with a higher back and being able to firmly place both fingers on the right side. Which mouse should I test? DA V3 Pro? NP01? Some kind of ergonomic claw grip mouse? video showing my grip on the mouse https://youtu.be/JLMY3onGg_Q?si=QpZT3qi3ohoSBK6h

Fortunately with those monster hands I think you'd probably slay on it. Honestly learning on your Gpro would hit too haha, for me at 19x10 I struggle with actual ftip mice like any of the wolves variants because of now narrow they are. All the punching makes my hand cramp endlessly. X2 mini shape has been the king for me and if you really want to try an ftip only mouse the x2f is the only one I can play with sans cramping. A final mouse (any variant, starlight's are pretty cheap these days doesn't seem like weight matters too much to you) medium might work out for you too? Hitscan hyper light/lamzu Maya are also fun picks. Also helps that most of those have a plus size if you feel like they're too small to ftip comfortably in your hands. Tldr: x2 mini, finalmouse, hitscan hyper light, lamzu maya Also just had a thought, if you want to stick with some ergo maybe vaxee outset or a vaxee ax?

Fortunately with those monster hands I think you'd probably slay on it. Honestly learning on your Gpro would hit too haha, for me at 19x10 I struggle with actual ftip mice like any of the wolves variants because of now narrow they are. All the punching makes my hand cramp endlessly. X2 mini shape has been the king for me and if you really want to try an ftip only mouse the x2f is the only one I can play with sans cramping. A final mouse (any variant, starlight's are pretty cheap these days doesn't seem like weight matters too much to you) medium might work out for you too? Hitscan hyper light/lamzu Maya are also fun picks. Also helps that most of those have a plus size if you feel like they're too small to ftip comfortably in your hands. Tldr: x2 mini, finalmouse, hitscan hyper light, lamzu maya Also just had a thought, if you want to stick with some ergo maybe vaxee outset or a vaxee ax?

Vaxee mice are very neutral looking and high quality

Check recent zowie and vaxee models, they are more or less weighty and feel sturdy