
Logitech G
G600 MMO Gaming Mouse
Customizable MMO workhorse, durable, but discontinued and pricey.

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Np-01s ergo gang 👋 this mouse is so based
Hello everyone, I’m reaching out because I’m new to this field. After doing research for two weeks on grip styles and what type of mouse would suit me, I’m completely lost. I’d like to know whether I’m a palm/relaxed claw player (but with a light claw) or more of a pure palm grip, with a hand size of 18x10 cm. I’m currently using the Razer D4V Pro, and I’d say I’m comfortable with humps that aren’t too high and a smooth, gentle slope down. I aim without placing the base of my palm on the mousepad, but on the mouse instead (which I think matters too). I’m comfortable with the Razer, but an alternative would be interesting, and I’d like to understand this space better so that in the future, if it stops working, I’ll know what I can switch to. My budget is 150 euros. There are many posts about this, but getting an outside opinion is always more interesting, especially with photos. I had already made a post before, and I’d like to thank the person who replied and helped guide me. I’m not used to posting and I usually prefer to do research and find solutions by myself. I’ve already seen a few models that could possibly work. The RAWM ER21 PRO could be interesting—my grip seems to match ergonomic and symmetrical shapes (like the G PRO) more. I’ve tested the following mice: * WLmouse Beast X and Beast X Max (not a fan) * L7 Ultra+ (similar to the Tenz but too aggressive of a claw grip, I’d say) * Pulsar Tenz (hump a bit high, but very interesting with that “lock-in” feel) * NP-01S Ergo (nice, but I didn’t feel comfortable on it) I’d like to know what type of mouse you would recommend, because I feel like I’m going in circles—having tried a few mice but never finding the one that truly fits me…
Okay, I see. The good thing is that I’m set on my grip style, which is already a good thing. I tried the XM2w V2 4K and it feels too aggressive in my grip. I liked the Pulsar Tenz, but I found the hump a bit too high, and I think the position of the base of my palm wasn’t right. The Lamzu Atlantis is out of stock pretty much everywhere. In general, I like to keep my last two fingers extended. Oh cool, that’s interesting!
Vaxee NP-01s wireless (not v2) is a good small mouse at 71g
You dont mention a budget so I'd recommend the Vaxee NP-01s Ergo. It's very well built, got a comfortable shape for the relaxed claw grip/fingertip and good specs. My other recommendation would be Pulsar Zywoo mini. Similar to the Np-01s but shorter and more on the comfort side but it's more suited to strictly claw grip in my opinion. I would think that the Basilisk is too big and cumbersome for fingertip grip generally.
Nice to hear someone having nearly the same experience this year as me. Started this rabbithole aswell and found endgame in the np01-s v2 and ergo. Sold most other mice after getting those 2. Finished the mousepad / mouseskatese rabbithole aswell so have fun with that one! On both np01 i went with Fox Gaze Dot Skates from unusual way sports and love the feel. I mainly play on a artisan raiden soft and tac fps on low sens.
Yeah ergo is what I recommend like the np-01s ergo which I previously mentioned, zowie ec2-dw, vaxee E1, zywoo mini
Worth trying the np-01s if you found your pink slipping you can always put a grip tape
Op18k is not the best mouse for palm grip style so I recommend an ergonomic mouse like the ec3-dw or np-01s ergo
Given your handsize I recommend the E1, np-01s ergo, dav3 hyperspeed and ec2-dw, pulsar zywoo v2 is also coming soon so wait for that but if you don't care for the v2 I guess the v1 will get the job done
Try the larger variants of the mice out and see what you think. I don't like abusing it, but amazon do have a very good return policy. I tend to hold my mouse quite forward in my hands which looks quite similar to you holding yours. My hands have a similar width to yours, but I have only 20cm in length hands. As for a recommendation I recommend the DAv4 pro as it's a very popular well beloved shape, it has quite a tall hump (larger than the EC1). The width should be good for you but I dont think you will find a mouse you can comfortably palm from the large gaming brands (pulsar, logitech, razer, zowie etc...) I have tried quite a few ergo mice (Vaxee E1, EC2-DW, EC1-DW, pulsar xlite v3 (M), zywoo mouse (v1), lamzu thorn, NP-01s Ergo), but I prefer the Deathadders shape overall as it's what I grew up with and just feels comfortable to use for long periods of time. The DAv4 pro has the best build quality I've felt from a deathadder (unsurprisingly, it is their latest model) it honestly comes close to vaxee, but the sound does fall short on the M1 and M2 clicks, they sound very pingy, but they do feel satisfying to press and spammable. The best build quality I've felt in a mouse is hands down the NP-01s Ergo though, the tolerances feel tight like the DAv4 pro, but the sound of the clicks is much better. The shape isn't quite right for me though, its too narrow and flat.

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