If we're going for the exact same shape, with a modern experience, then yes, Mchose G3 would be your best bet
The g304 was my first mouse, moved to a gpx superlight when I realized I needed bigger mice for my hand, now on an ATK X1 Ultra but might move to a kysona Jupiter pro when they have some in stock
The normal Vxe Mad R (non +) is also available with 8k dongle (at least on AliExpress) if people are interested.
Awesome list btw, got the Mad R and the X1 Pro and they are both amazing.
Have an Atk A9 aswell which also feels very good, i dont really like the gpx shape sadly.
Had a pretty hefty game session last night using the Kysona Jupiter Ultra, and had a big smile on my face. :) $60 for a Viper v3 Pro clone with Omron Opticals.
If you need to butterfly click my personal favorite mouse a Scyrox V8 (although all the mice I'm about to recommend can double click).
If you want to save some money, get an mchose l7 ultra. (You need to TURN OFF game safe mode in the software to double click on this mouse, which is one by default).
If you need something bigger, get an atk x1 ultimate.
All the mice listed have an adjustable debounce time btw, which is set to 0 by default.
Atk x1 can drag click 35 for me and butterfly 23.
There are many other options, but I recommend the atk x1 most for your hand size (you said the pulsfire haste was too small), and budget.
ATK X1 is great for the price and is on Amazon now. Its a bigger symmetrical mouse (Viper V3 pro clone). I'd go with at least the X1 (base), great for the price at $52 (plus I see a coupon right now) . If you want optical switches you could go for the Pro or Pro Max
amazon link
[https://www.amazon.com/ATK-Blazing-Sky-X1-Wireless/dp/B0FND433DC](https://www.amazon.com/ATK-Blazing-Sky-X1-Wireless/dp/B0FND433DC)
differences between models
[https://www.atk.store/cdn/shop/files/ATK\_X1\_Description\_Desktop-0508-7.jpg?v=1746700795&width=2000](https://www.atk.store/cdn/shop/files/ATK_X1_Description_Desktop-0508-7.jpg?v=1746700795&width=2000)
ATK X1 is available on Amazon in USA, not sure about other countries. Its a viper v3 clone and is great overall. They have several variations under 60€. I also see a coupon right now (not sure if you do). Personally I would try to get at least the X1 base vs the X1 S or X1 SE
[https://www.amazon.com/ATK-Blazing-Sky-X1-Wireless/dp/B0FND3M6PG](https://www.amazon.com/ATK-Blazing-Sky-X1-Wireless/dp/B0FND3M6PG)
with your hand size if you like palm grip then I would go A9 as that is Logitech superlight clone (big), X1 is viper v3 clone and is also big, but not as big as the a9
r1 vs a9
[https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=vxe-r1-vs.-atk-a9](https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=vxe-r1-vs.-atk-a9)
If you buy the a9 personally i'd get the a9 air, great mix of weight and features. If you want bigger battery then get the a9 ultimate
[https://i.imgur.com/43m1VCR.png](https://i.imgur.com/43m1VCR.png)
r1 vs x1
[https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=vxe-r1-vs.-atk-x1](https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=vxe-r1-vs.-atk-x1)
if you buy the x1 the air just came out but not in stock, ultimate 2.0 probably good choice
[https://i.imgur.com/HqmazFd.png](https://i.imgur.com/HqmazFd.png)
[https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=atk-u2-vs.-atk-x1-vs.-atk-a9-ultimate](https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=atk-u2-vs.-atk-x1-vs.-atk-a9-ultimate)
I mean they are all pretty big potato shapes :) I'd say if you like a bigger rear hump, get the U2, if you like a little more curve on the sides get the X1. A9 is just the superlight safe potato shape :)
I own an ATK x1 and it is great. If you want to try the shape you could go to a retail store and see if they have a viper v3 on display (x1 is clone). Could do the same with A9 and superlight shape
I have 18x9 hands and have an ATK X1 (viper v3 clone). Its almost full palm for me. I can do a very slight claw grip but its not comfortable. I also have an ATK F1 v2 and a hitscan hyperlight. Both much easier to claw grip
with your hand size if you like palm grip then I would go A9 as that is Logitech superlight clone (big), X1 is viper v3 clone and is also big, but not as big as the a9
r1 vs a9
[https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=vxe-r1-vs.-atk-a9](https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=vxe-r1-vs.-atk-a9)
If you buy the a9 personally i'd get the a9 air, great mix of weight and features. If you want bigger battery then get the a9 ultimate
[https://i.imgur.com/43m1VCR.png](https://i.imgur.com/43m1VCR.png)
r1 vs x1
[https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=vxe-r1-vs.-atk-x1](https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=vxe-r1-vs.-atk-x1)
if you buy the x1 the air just came out but not in stock, ultimate 2.0 probably good choice
[https://i.imgur.com/HqmazFd.png](https://i.imgur.com/HqmazFd.png)
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