AKG - K612 PRO

I have used AKG K702/K612 with a Fiio E10K for years, but im tired how the headstrap always wears down so fast, and the side things always break, and become uncomfortable to use after the side things lose tension. I was eyeing some of the Beyerdynamic ones like these, but Im worried about headstrap confort. And tbh Im kinda stuck on which ones to choose.

Is AKG bad now? I just bought K612 Pro's and they seem great to me

The AKG K612 Pro offers the most spatiality you'll get for this price. The sound is relatively neutral; the only thing that might bother you is a slight lack of bass, but the truth is it's there just as much as it should be. It's a very analytical and absolutely clear sound; the line is very straight and doesn't embellish any frequency. Forget any other AKG model; those that should be superior have so much spatiality between one ear and the other that the center practically dies, and they are a bit forced in the highs to give a feeling of greater clarity.

“I did plenty of research before the purchase, and I did not expect how hot the treble is on these things.” What reviews did you read that they didn’t reference the infamous Mt. Beyer treble peaks?!? From my understanding, Beyer based their house sound off of pure Free-Field response curves… how a “flat” monitor speaker is perceived by a microphone in an anechoic chamber, or in other words all influence of walls and a performance space is removed. I don’t know how close they positioned the mic to the speaker in their measurements, but it seems there was NO treble energy lost over distance. It’s an “off” unnatural sound to me, because I always listen to speakers in a room, or a concert in an orchestra hall or performance amphitheater. I guess Beyer’s target sounds close to PA speakers of a rock & roll concert performed in a grassy meadow, but those kinds of performances always left my ears ringing… and guess what Beyers do to me? I did read numerous complaints about the upper mids and treble about Beyerdynamic’s DT880 and DT990, but I also read a few fans who praised them for their clarity, transparency, and comfort. As a gamer, I thought they would give me analytical fidelity, extra “detail” that would help me play more competitively, and maybe the detractors were over exaggerating. I’ve always been the type to weigh positive reviews more than negative ones. From my research, I also picked up a Premium model because they have a lower clamping force and more comfort than the Pro models, a less snag-some straight cable than the heavy coiled cable of the Pro, and I also got a higher 600 Ω model because I thought it had the best potential and I had a nice tube hybrid amp that should be powerful enough for it. When it arrived from Amazon, I was shocked how much it sounded like listening to music through a tin-can. It’s repeated over and over that too much bass can overwhelm and muddy the mids and other frequencies, well I’m here to tell you that too much treble can also mask other frequencies in the same way. There’s something else about the “classic” Beyer highs too… they’re not just relatively louder, I also felt like there was a glare that made me wince more than, say, a Stax played with the highs at the same decibels or louder. Also, I read almost universal praise for Beyerdynamic’s plus velour earpads… but I can’t understand why nobody mentioned that the headband had a hard, prominent stitching along the entire underside length, and why no tester didn’t tell Beyerdynamic that this was a terrible idea that would cause sore spots for anyone who doesn’t have really thick, lofty head of hair or a hat to do all the cushioning and pressure diffusion for Beyerdynamic’s work for them. Despite the ringing ears and fatigue, I gave the DT 880 as much of a chance to grow on me as I could, and used the entire Amazon return period to see if I could eventually get used to them. Nope. Refund. I will say, I have since learned that my ear canals are narrower than the average, and they create a resonance that seems to amplify highs more for me than other people whose resonant frequencies would be different. And I will add, if you felt like the DT990’s balance of frequencies was ok but you too wish it had less glare, I felt like the DT1990 was exactly the change Beyer needed to make. However, I think my favorite Beyer was their smaller on-ear ones… I forget their model number, but here’s a picture 😂 Also, I preferred the AKG K612 Pro and Sennheiser HD 660S2 over all of Beyer’s headphones, at least with my ears and subjective tastes. https://preview.redd.it/aglkjy37lblg1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c489c980ad363fc114ad1eb64453ba052f0303f9

Sennheiser HD700/800/800S AKG K612/702/712 Phillips SHP9500/SHP9600

These are the common good options for gaming: AKG K 240, 612, (Q) 701, 702 and 712 (all need EQ, but excellent for gaming. Some also need an amp or powerful dongle) Sennheiser HD560s Beyerdynamic DT 770, 990 (need EQ as well) All are more than good enough gaming. 770 is the only closed back on the list. EQ matters more than any sound differences between these. Paying ten times more doesn't offer much. I have over $10k worth of headphones and use AKG Q 701 for gaming.

ATH-M50x é bem merda, O Kuba Disco 2 é melhor mas nada excepcional também, Os K371/K361 da AKG, são melhores que o Kuba Disco 2 mas não por muito também, só que, a AKG tem loja oficial no Brasil e eles frequentemente colocam fones em promoção lá, vc as vezes consegue K371 por 700,00 ou K361 por 600 (Acredito q esses preços subiram um pouco com a alta do dólar, quando eu olhei e comprei o meu K612-PRO paguei só 599 nele, mas foi em 2022) De qlqr maneira os da AKG acabam derrotando fones até um pouco melhores pq se vc tiver paciência consegue preços incríveis neles aqui no Brasil. (Antes da loja oficial da AKG um K612-PRO não saia por menos de 1400,00 aqui no Brasil) De qualquer maneira, se vc quer entrar no mundo da audiofilia mesmo e tem um ambiente silencioso, te recomendo mesmo pegar um fone aberto, como os AKG K612-PRO ou Sennheiser H650 ou HifiMan HE-400. O problema da HiFiMan é que o controle de qualidade deles é péssimo, é bem comum ter fones com imbalanço significante entre os dois lados ou outros tipos de problema e aqui no Brasil é meio difícil de vc ir trocando eles até receber um modelo que esteja bom, além de que, se vc não tem experiencia com isso pode até não perceber o problema rápido o bastante pra poder trocar. Se vc quer realmente com design fechado os K361 e K371 são os ideais pra comprar. Assumo q vc não tem um DAC então recomendo gasta apenas metade desse seu orçamento mesmo em fones por volta dos 600-700 como o K361 ou K612-PRO e gastar o restante num DAC/AMP de entrada, infelizmente dps q comprei meu ZenDAC eu parei de seguir os lançamentos de DACs então eu não teria uma recomendação atualizada pra te fazer, recomendo pesquisar no sub, frequentemente tem gente pedindo ajuda com isso, ou abrindo um novo post com essa pergunta de DAC.

AKG K line, start up from K612 PRO, then move up to K702 / K7XX, K712. Terrible build quality especially after a few years (damn elastics), but soundstage and clarity in my opinion can't be matched. Perfect choice for gaming and music.

AKG K612. Because of its dead neutral tune and general comfort and light weight, it's the perfect headphone to put on and forget.

Best cheap variant Akg 612 pro. Very wide soundstage. Excellent for games. Good for music too. Light weight.Next level only Sennhiser HD 800.

One of widest soundstage before sennhiser hd800 is Akg 612 pro. Wery cheap price for so good 3d wide soundstage. Just try. I know what I talking about.

Try akg 612 pro. Just try and you will understood everything. Of course with amp is better

Akg 612 pro. Widest soundstage before hd800.

I tried epos 670 month ago. Now in trash. Dont recommend. Sound quality not good. No technical support at all. I tried uncounted amount " gaming headphones" for 30 years. It is just marketing. Just buy not gaming headphones + mic. If can be open back then akg-612 pro. Very wide soundstage. Real comfort and good sound for money..