Beyerdynamic - DT 770 PRO Limited Edition 250 Ohm

DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition. Great for games and music. Exciting V shaped tuning for great bass and treble response. Closed back, meaning leaks no sound through any open holes or mesh. And for a closed back, they have great soundstage, which is usually typical of open back. Make sure it’s the “Pro X” version as this headphone has many older “Pro” versions that need an amp for more power. The new one does not need much power to sound great so no amp needed.

I really love my beyerdyamic dt770 pro X limited edition headphones (long name but lots of different models) 😅 Great sounds and most comfortable headphone I have owned

AKG K361: incredible sound with extensive bass stage, might get treble fatiguing after a while. AKG K371: similar to the above, when those become too bright I grab these which in comparison are a bit bass heavy but smoother treble and with Dekoni Choice Suede pads are very comfortable. Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro 80 ohm: the smoothest of them all, not as impressive but subtly incredible and great for relaxing and longer sessions. Very natural and elegant. I had them modded and now they have a short detachable cable with a mic. DCA Noire X: very strange tuning, most of the time, like 80% I don't like them and right when I'm about to sell them, I give them a chance. I like them temporarily quite a bit. I don't really know why this happens, but sometimes they do open up for me, but that joy doesn't last. When I like them, it's the bass soundstage depth, and what I dislike is the recessed range from the mids and up. Definitely not the best for complex music like classical or soundtracks, or TV. But at times they are great. Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro X LE: this is nothing at all like the original, only in name and appearance; comes with detachable cable (doesn't support mic), the sound is totally different, very forward V shape, impressive when you have that high energy and excitement, otherwise can get too intense. Will get sibilant and the bass is heavier. I used to love it for a long time, not so much anymore. Don't like: Fiio FT1: my least favorite despite the hype. They do have a very impressive deep bass, but that's it; they totally disregard the treble, even the mids, totally recessed in the upper range, might appeal bass-lovers. Focal Azurys: very good dynamics but totally flat soundstage, zero depth to the sound. Disappointing. Focal Elegia: strange tuning, but the culprit is the way the bass reverbs, it ruins the whole thing. Not worth it. Audiotechnica ATH M50x: similar issue with the reverb as the Elegia, plus horrifying painful clamp on the head. They have no redeeming quality. Sennheiser HD25: these are on-ear, totally unnecessary, painful clamp, tiny congested sound. I think DJ's like it for work, otherwise nothing good about them. Sennheiser HD569: the worst cheap sound I have ever heard in my life. Sennheiser hd620s: these are interesting; they don't sound necessarily bad by themselves, but the tuning is mid-centric and might take a few days or longer to adjust to their tuning, then you might really like them. They sound very similar to the Azurys in the good technical performance, but the HD620s actually have good soundstage, however unfortunately, the clamp of the headband is a torture. Conclusion: If someone with DIY skills dares, I suggest they build a headphone with a tuning between the K361 and K371, right in the middle, and actual durable materials that don't die in a year (mine did, I re-purchased them, get the extended insurance!), and comfortable pads. This would be my end-game forever ❤️

Id go with a Beyer dynamic 900 pro x or tyger 300r. They're easy to drive and won't need an amp in most cases. Both are tuned to soften the treble spike that a good fraction of people are sensitive to in the 770 pro model you're considering and it's open back sibling the 990 pro. If you still prefer closed back I'd consider the 770 pro x le since that model also rounds off the treble spike a bit vs the classic 770 pro. I personally have never been sensitive to the treble on either model but there definitely is enough complaints about it to know that it is a thing for some people and the sound measurements confirm this. Basically the 900/990 series are open back. Sound leaks in and out but have a more natural sound stage , which is awesome for gaming imo. It's very atmospheric and engaging imo. The 700/770 series is the same driver/speaker but enclosed for more privacy and more thump in your bass...which is super nice to have if you're not always in a private surrounding and want to tune others out or not be rude with noise leaking out of your cans.

beyerdynamic dt 770 pro - my best money spent

Having DT770 pro 250 Omh since 2020, replaced only cushions once.

Depends how loud your keyboard is tbh. Closed backs for gaming are a lot better on PC. I had 1770 Pros for gaming/mixing before but there was a huge discount on 1990 Pros and the 1770 Pros had way too much bass for mastering I so went for those and gave the 1770 pros to my wife. I had to buy new keyboard because I had MX blues and gaming was horrible on open backs and loud switches. I still kinda prefer the 1770 for gaming tbh as they isolate better. For mixing and mastering the 1990 pros are perfect and for gaming as well after getting silent switches. But for budget I would go with DT 770 Pro 250Ohm and pair them with ifi zen dac v2. I made testing with 1770 Pros and 770 Pros on ifi zen dac V2 and the difference wasnt that huge I was expecting (the 770 were decade old lol). https://youtu.be/5nQ4Za2Qd6U?si=xCDnnywE-Gdw9lgS When it comes to gaming they are really good. I used to play a lot of competitive fps before (OW1, Cod, CS) and all games I played I reached top 1% so no complaining.

If you really want riddiclous bass out of headphones ifi zen dac is pretty much what you need. The DAC itself will cost 2500 kr. I used to run it with 250ohm DT 770 Pros and it had a lot of bass. This setup will cost you 5000 kr tho. Its going to be little expensive but its future proof. Will last you years and if you get bored to the headphones you can upgrade them later on. If budget is really tight you can go for 250Ohm DT770 pros and Fiio K11 which will cost around 3000 kr from black market deals.

From least to most favorite: Audio-Technica ATH-M50X - well-built, cohesive imaging, but some of the most unnatural-sounding headphones I've heard, having a huge hole in the lower mids, mud-fest in the bass, and harsh peaky treble Audio-Technica ATH-M60X - well-built, surprisingly spacious for how small they are, but still a hole in the lower mids and shouty ear gain, plus they're on-ear and therefore uncomfortable Audio-Technica ATH-M40X - well-built, decent all-rounder, but still lacks the lower mids and mid-bass is too boomy, plus the treble is a bit sibilant Sennheiser HD280 PRO - great isolation, large pads, cohesive imaging, but too much sub-bass giving me a headache, too dull yet grainy, plus the cable is microphonic, heavy, stiff, and non-detachable AKG K361 - the most tonally balanced overall, but not very impressive technically, having kind of a tinny timbre with metallic treble, mediocre imaging, and some of the worst build and comfort with a huge design flaw - earpads have a lot of compression with pressure affecting the FR, creating constant channel imbalance, so you have to be perfectly still while using them AKG K371 - the same but more natural timbre for the sacrifice of warmer and muddier tuning Sennheiser HD620S - nice build, comfort, and isolation, good clarity, but unpleasant, cold, harsh, focused, claustrophobic, fatiguing tuning with wonky low-end Adam H200 - nice build, comfort, and isolation, surprisingly spacious, good bass quality, but too shouty FiiO FT1 - the best all-rounder, most casual, most comfortable, solid tonal balance, spatial qualities, and bass quality, but too much bass and too peaky unrefined treble, making them sound fatiguing Beyerdynamic DT770 PRO 250Ω - the best clarity, sounding almost like an open-back, great all-rounder, great low-end and midrange, decent spatial qualities, decently comfortable, but too sibilant, making them unsuitable for a certain kind of music NOTE: I also had the 80 and 32Ω versions of the DT770 but didn't like them as much

Accurate bass in headphones is a difficult ask, sealed headphones usually manage good bass extension but because a sealed headphone is a resonant chamber the bass is listener-dependent and usually not of the best quality / consistency, while open headphones tend to have too poor bass for mixing EDM by feel if you don't have a very robust idea of what a good song is supposed to sound like on them. The ATH M-series bass response however is infamously awful, with a low mid dip leading into highly elevated midbass leading into once again tapered off subbass, I can hear the effect the M40X were having on mixing decisions in mixes I did while using them. The DT770 are far from a perfect headphone and depending on your anatomy might have terrible sibilance (headphones sound different for everyone) but for a not-too-expensive closed headphone I'd consider it a major upgrade from the M50X in terms of the quality of the bass and in terms of being overall well behaved, with the treble, while elevated, feeling far more consistent and transparent as well. They won't replace a good pair of monitors for final mix referencing but there's a good reason they've remained an industry fixture, they're a non-neutral but reliable, known, workable closed back headphone for production. All this mostly just goes for the 250ohm version with grey pads, the sound is heavily dependent on the pads, the black velours pads are not the same, they tune the sound very different (more mid-scooped). if DT770s are too bright they can be made a bit darker by using anything ranging from 1 single ply from multi-ply toilet paper to a full multi-layer paper towel to cover (ideally only the center of) the driver assembly. Bass response also depends on seal and is slightly lessened (brought to pretty much neutral) when wearing thin-armed glasses. The DT880 series is a finicky bunch that measures very different at times for non-obvious reasons. The Pro version has a much higher clamping force on the headband and this forces the pads to compress more, as a consequence making them denser (retaining more bass) but also lessening the size of the chamber between your ear and the driver which increases sub-bass rolloff, as a consequence the Edition version (non-pro) has been measured as having a generally more neutral bass response. These are however, bass-light headphones, lighter than neutral monitors in a room, especially in the sub bass. If you do not have another reference they're nearly impossible to mix EDM on, though it's possible to use EQ to correct the bass to nearly neutral, but don't expect to achieve impressive levels of loudness when doing so, as it increases the load on the headphones. They also have the famed beyer treble spike, which either works for you or doesn't, but if it does, then with the bass corrected via EQ they can be very good referencing headphones, more honest than the DT770. The Black Edition is not the same, largely due to the black pads, which just like with black DT770 pads, perform different, massively elevating especially the low mid frequencies and making for a very warm, boomy headphone that still lacks sub bass extension. The Sennheiser HD 600 series is generally considered the king of neutral sound, these headphones measure exceptionally neutral pretty much from 100hz to 10khz, but they have much poorer listener to listener frequency response consistency than Beyerdynamic headphones do, leading to wildly diverging opinions that might all be correct. They also lack sub bass and are really poor for EDM as a result, but can be corrected using EQ into having the right amount of bass, and are highly regarded for very good reason. If you can make these work for you these are, dare I say, objectively good. I do not personally like them. The Sennheiser HD560S could be considered akin to a 600 series headphone with a slightly more Beyerdynamic-esque treble profile and better sub bass extension, and is also much cheaper, but has less of a studio pedigree, and official pad replacements are not available any more. All in all if I had to boil down my recommendations: If you want a no nonsense headphone that doesn't require additional software or hardware adjustments, DT770 250ohm, possibly paper towel modded. If you can handle somewhat light-feeling accurate bass without making mistakes and want the accuracy of open back headphones without diving into headphone correction and can get along with something on the brighter side of the Sennheiser sound, HD560S. If you're willing to EQ up the sub bass on your headphones to be able to mix EDM on them but want what many regard as the best of the best for good reason, HD 600 series headphones of choice. If you can get along with the Beyerdynamic treble signature, want maybe the most comfortable headphones on earth, and are okay EQing up the sub bass to be able to mix EDM on them: DT880 Edition 250ohm, can also be toilet paper / paper towel modded in case of the treble being too much but if you're using some form of frequency response correction anyways you might as well leave them unmodified. An honorary mention goes to AKG K371, which are a closed headphone with an uncharacteristically well behaved response all the way from the sub bass to the midrange, without major peaks and valleys, only a bit of a warm tilt. They are overall bass heavy headphones but their performance is remarkable at the price point. They are however infamous for being extremely easy to break, and by their design I know I'd kill them in no time, which is why they're not a solid recommendation.

I have a pair of DT 770 Pro (250 Ohm) with a DAC that I use both for gaming and music. I love them

I love my dt770pro 250 ohmbut wouldnt consider them to give accurate bass response. I have to use tools like span and listen on multiple audio sources to get the bass dialed in but I still really enjoy them for their sound and awesome comfort