Beyerdynamic - DT 770 PRO Limited Edition 250 Ohm

DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition. Great for games and music. Exciting V shaped tuning for great bass and treble response. Closed back, meaning leaks no sound through any open holes or mesh. And for a closed back, they have great soundstage, which is usually typical of open back. Make sure it’s the “Pro X” version as this headphone has many older “Pro” versions that need an amp for more power. The new one does not need much power to sound great so no amp needed.

Having DT770 pro 250 Omh since 2020, replaced only cushions once.

beyerdynamic dt 770 pro - my best money spent

Depends how loud your keyboard is tbh. Closed backs for gaming are a lot better on PC. I had 1770 Pros for gaming/mixing before but there was a huge discount on 1990 Pros and the 1770 Pros had way too much bass for mastering I so went for those and gave the 1770 pros to my wife. I had to buy new keyboard because I had MX blues and gaming was horrible on open backs and loud switches. I still kinda prefer the 1770 for gaming tbh as they isolate better. For mixing and mastering the 1990 pros are perfect and for gaming as well after getting silent switches. But for budget I would go with DT 770 Pro 250Ohm and pair them with ifi zen dac v2. I made testing with 1770 Pros and 770 Pros on ifi zen dac V2 and the difference wasnt that huge I was expecting (the 770 were decade old lol). https://youtu.be/5nQ4Za2Qd6U?si=xCDnnywE-Gdw9lgS When it comes to gaming they are really good. I used to play a lot of competitive fps before (OW1, Cod, CS) and all games I played I reached top 1% so no complaining.

If you really want riddiclous bass out of headphones ifi zen dac is pretty much what you need. The DAC itself will cost 2500 kr. I used to run it with 250ohm DT 770 Pros and it had a lot of bass. This setup will cost you 5000 kr tho. Its going to be little expensive but its future proof. Will last you years and if you get bored to the headphones you can upgrade them later on. If budget is really tight you can go for 250Ohm DT770 pros and Fiio K11 which will cost around 3000 kr from black market deals.

From least to most favorite: Audio-Technica ATH-M50X - well-built, cohesive imaging, but some of the most unnatural-sounding headphones I've heard, having a huge hole in the lower mids, mud-fest in the bass, and harsh peaky treble Audio-Technica ATH-M60X - well-built, surprisingly spacious for how small they are, but still a hole in the lower mids and shouty ear gain, plus they're on-ear and therefore uncomfortable Audio-Technica ATH-M40X - well-built, decent all-rounder, but still lacks the lower mids and mid-bass is too boomy, plus the treble is a bit sibilant Sennheiser HD280 PRO - great isolation, large pads, cohesive imaging, but too much sub-bass giving me a headache, too dull yet grainy, plus the cable is microphonic, heavy, stiff, and non-detachable AKG K361 - the most tonally balanced overall, but not very impressive technically, having kind of a tinny timbre with metallic treble, mediocre imaging, and some of the worst build and comfort with a huge design flaw - earpads have a lot of compression with pressure affecting the FR, creating constant channel imbalance, so you have to be perfectly still while using them AKG K371 - the same but more natural timbre for the sacrifice of warmer and muddier tuning Sennheiser HD620S - nice build, comfort, and isolation, good clarity, but unpleasant, cold, harsh, focused, claustrophobic, fatiguing tuning with wonky low-end Adam H200 - nice build, comfort, and isolation, surprisingly spacious, good bass quality, but too shouty FiiO FT1 - the best all-rounder, most casual, most comfortable, solid tonal balance, spatial qualities, and bass quality, but too much bass and too peaky unrefined treble, making them sound fatiguing Beyerdynamic DT770 PRO 250Ω - the best clarity, sounding almost like an open-back, great all-rounder, great low-end and midrange, decent spatial qualities, decently comfortable, but too sibilant, making them unsuitable for a certain kind of music NOTE: I also had the 80 and 32Ω versions of the DT770 but didn't like them as much

Accurate bass in headphones is a difficult ask, sealed headphones usually manage good bass extension but because a sealed headphone is a resonant chamber the bass is listener-dependent and usually not of the best quality / consistency, while open headphones tend to have too poor bass for mixing EDM by feel if you don't have a very robust idea of what a good song is supposed to sound like on them. The ATH M-series bass response however is infamously awful, with a low mid dip leading into highly elevated midbass leading into once again tapered off subbass, I can hear the effect the M40X were having on mixing decisions in mixes I did while using them. The DT770 are far from a perfect headphone and depending on your anatomy might have terrible sibilance (headphones sound different for everyone) but for a not-too-expensive closed headphone I'd consider it a major upgrade from the M50X in terms of the quality of the bass and in terms of being overall well behaved, with the treble, while elevated, feeling far more consistent and transparent as well. They won't replace a good pair of monitors for final mix referencing but there's a good reason they've remained an industry fixture, they're a non-neutral but reliable, known, workable closed back headphone for production. All this mostly just goes for the 250ohm version with grey pads, the sound is heavily dependent on the pads, the black velours pads are not the same, they tune the sound very different (more mid-scooped). if DT770s are too bright they can be made a bit darker by using anything ranging from 1 single ply from multi-ply toilet paper to a full multi-layer paper towel to cover (ideally only the center of) the driver assembly. Bass response also depends on seal and is slightly lessened (brought to pretty much neutral) when wearing thin-armed glasses. The DT880 series is a finicky bunch that measures very different at times for non-obvious reasons. The Pro version has a much higher clamping force on the headband and this forces the pads to compress more, as a consequence making them denser (retaining more bass) but also lessening the size of the chamber between your ear and the driver which increases sub-bass rolloff, as a consequence the Edition version (non-pro) has been measured as having a generally more neutral bass response. These are however, bass-light headphones, lighter than neutral monitors in a room, especially in the sub bass. If you do not have another reference they're nearly impossible to mix EDM on, though it's possible to use EQ to correct the bass to nearly neutral, but don't expect to achieve impressive levels of loudness when doing so, as it increases the load on the headphones. They also have the famed beyer treble spike, which either works for you or doesn't, but if it does, then with the bass corrected via EQ they can be very good referencing headphones, more honest than the DT770. The Black Edition is not the same, largely due to the black pads, which just like with black DT770 pads, perform different, massively elevating especially the low mid frequencies and making for a very warm, boomy headphone that still lacks sub bass extension. The Sennheiser HD 600 series is generally considered the king of neutral sound, these headphones measure exceptionally neutral pretty much from 100hz to 10khz, but they have much poorer listener to listener frequency response consistency than Beyerdynamic headphones do, leading to wildly diverging opinions that might all be correct. They also lack sub bass and are really poor for EDM as a result, but can be corrected using EQ into having the right amount of bass, and are highly regarded for very good reason. If you can make these work for you these are, dare I say, objectively good. I do not personally like them. The Sennheiser HD560S could be considered akin to a 600 series headphone with a slightly more Beyerdynamic-esque treble profile and better sub bass extension, and is also much cheaper, but has less of a studio pedigree, and official pad replacements are not available any more. All in all if I had to boil down my recommendations: If you want a no nonsense headphone that doesn't require additional software or hardware adjustments, DT770 250ohm, possibly paper towel modded. If you can handle somewhat light-feeling accurate bass without making mistakes and want the accuracy of open back headphones without diving into headphone correction and can get along with something on the brighter side of the Sennheiser sound, HD560S. If you're willing to EQ up the sub bass on your headphones to be able to mix EDM on them but want what many regard as the best of the best for good reason, HD 600 series headphones of choice. If you can get along with the Beyerdynamic treble signature, want maybe the most comfortable headphones on earth, and are okay EQing up the sub bass to be able to mix EDM on them: DT880 Edition 250ohm, can also be toilet paper / paper towel modded in case of the treble being too much but if you're using some form of frequency response correction anyways you might as well leave them unmodified. An honorary mention goes to AKG K371, which are a closed headphone with an uncharacteristically well behaved response all the way from the sub bass to the midrange, without major peaks and valleys, only a bit of a warm tilt. They are overall bass heavy headphones but their performance is remarkable at the price point. They are however infamous for being extremely easy to break, and by their design I know I'd kill them in no time, which is why they're not a solid recommendation.

I have a pair of DT 770 Pro (250 Ohm) with a DAC that I use both for gaming and music. I love them

I love my dt770pro 250 ohmbut wouldnt consider them to give accurate bass response. I have to use tools like span and listen on multiple audio sources to get the bass dialed in but I still really enjoy them for their sound and awesome comfort

I just recently bought your second option in the 240 ohm. They kick ass

I use the beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro in 250 Ohm and found it was best for producing dubstep / bass music. It has a great low end without getting muddy or bloated. It comes in 3 Ohm variations so need to make sure get 250 Ohms which is best for studio enviroments.

I think you have to be looking for something to tell the difference. My first "good" pair of headphones were the DT-770 PRO 250 OHM. I was looking for some "better than $30" headphones with good bass and they were it. Next I wanted to try some "more expensive" open back headphones with good bass. I purchased the HD 660s2 and I love them. The DT-770 are clear and have more bass than the 660s2. But the sound stage and separation is better on the 660s2. I was looking for headphones with good bass and I was looking for better sound stage and separation. And I could very clearly and easily tell the difference.

It's not laughable at all. I own the 660s2 and the DT-770 and I think both are great. But, those are the only 2 "audiophile" type headphones I own or have listened to.