
Sennheiser
HD 560S
Budget gaming king with clear sound, but tight fit.

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Think you get a different experience as you start to move up the price point for headphones. Not a better experience. If you have the HD650, the next headphone that would make sense would either be a planar and if you need a closed headphone the open box DCA E3 (\~$1700 open box) would be my choice. Otherwise if you want an open planar and use EQ consider the Arya Organic, HE1000SE, or the LCD-X or 3.
Stealth V3 was better especially for gaming than all \~20 other headphones i tried for 2-4 weeks each but then organic immediately beat it by a mile, especially in imaging and soundstage (with EQ all headphones) and i think organic is where you have the last good price increase that actually yields enormous changes. Then i tried HE1000se, and it just perfected everything for me. Imaging in V3 in the front angle was bad in games, sides were fine, Organic fixed it and with HEKSE i hear things literally noone in my team hears and when they hear it later they dont know where it comes from yet. I give so many more sound comms now because it feels like i went from being deaf to having hearing Try the organic, for me it was only \~55€ difference to V3 and it is so much better. https://preview.redd.it/m5m5rne8bzvg1.jpeg?width=8160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=52352ad36446a112e4ccacff4dc7829ec5e235fa
Good skip, Organic is a straight upgrade to V3 I didnt try Unveiled, but from all the reviews i found, HEKSE is simply better overall, HEKU is more detailed but to a point where its getting to be too much if you catch me. You can find a lot of opinions on it vs HEKSE and for my use case (competetive gaming and enjoying music secondary) i dont think i will find something better than HEKSE. Might try HEKU for a month at some point tho just to see
Arya Organic I cant believe you rated the 1990Pro mk2 so high, i have had them for a month testing against OAE2, Arys etc and they were honestly not great with and without eq (especially without) Try out organic
Thats interesting, because their delivery of bass is genuinely just better. Sad!
Nice! I finished my testing phase a short while back, with an even bigger selection of headphones and possibly a more scientific oriented way of testing, like blind imaging tests in games, and this reveiled something about V3 vs Organic that i never saw anyone say (because 'gaming' headphone reviews online are often kinda subpar and not very thorough) except one random comment on a yt short. And that is: the imaging on the V3 in your front field of view (estimate about mayve 60-90 degrees) is extremely bad. If you directly look in a direction lets say footsteps are coming from, it is very hard to place them exactly, height distance etc. When looking somewhere and hearing something to your left/right, this issue did not persist. I tested extensively for this and found it to be very very true. Also did blind testing in private matches im various games (especially finals because you have a lot of dimensionality and possible positions for enemies) and the Organics FULLY solved this issue. Organics are, for the money, probably the best headphone you can get, bang for buck currently for gaming. You didnt talk EQ, i think both need EQ but especially Organic, but the Soundstage is definitely wider on Organic and Imaging is noticably better, by far. I then tried HEKSE and found my personal endgame, but Organic can easily be engame. Enjoy them https://preview.redd.it/0letfl097hwg1.jpeg?width=8160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=de3d02280a8719dd39012224ae5d570c48fd4a00 !
Hey! As always, i absolutely hate the mechanism to change pads on Hifimans. Its horrible lmao So for sound, it did change a little, but as i am neither done with my main EQ nor did i find the change to be significant (which lines up with the frequency changes Dekoni gives for these, they are the least impacting pads they have) i wont waste time on that part. In the end you have to Eq either way for your personal best experience! What i will comment on is quality, seal, comfort and how it changes clamp Quality seems superb, which i genuinely expect for almost 100€ pads tbh. No faults, they look good and are evenly stitched/glued. No complaints The seal got better! They are extremely soft, and thus they get pressed just that tiny bit more against my head making a seal i already found to be very good on stock pads a little bit better, nice! I liked the clamp force before and it feels slightly softer now, as they are a little bit closer together thus clamping slightly less They feel nice, the extra softness is a bonus and my hope is that they are as breathable as they look for our upcoming summer I will spend this weekend hopefully dialing in a final eq and i will certainly keep them https://preview.redd.it/mjgzhrae45xg1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=41d5810407c3d4393949ac8e165b776e701d54c0
I've tested all of these and have similar conclusions. The E3 absolutely floored me. It's my new "white whale" headphone that I hope to be able to afford one day. Utopia and HEKSE are also excellent. I didn't have any issues with the Arya organic's treble but I would still EQ them to make them more in line with my preferences.
I see you've already said the Arya Organics are out of your budget, but I thought I'd chime in with my two cents anyways. A little bit of context, I also mostly listen to metal and rock of varying sorts. Ranging from Muse or Twenty-one pilots to Avenged Sevenfold to Paleface Swiss, but I'll sometimes venture into some pop, alt rock and rap too, as well as some soundtracks, mostly Hans Zimmer and some video game OSTs. I recently decided to be financially irresponsible and buy the Arya Organics as my first step into the world of planars. I had previously been using HD660S, DT 770 PRO X and my daily driver DT 1990 pro. And all I can say is wow. Just wow, they truly do sound incredible. I know some people can be quite sensitive to the Beyer's treble but that never really bothered me at all, and apparently some find the Organics too bright but that also doesn't bother me at all. In fact I think I quite prefer that. The bass on them is also very impressive for being an open back. The speed and clarity while still sounding exciting and fun is great. Although I love my 660S, they always felt quite flat and dull, and never had that slam and thump in the low end, but that's not the case for the Organics. It's the same reason the DT1990 became my daily driver since that was a more well rounded headphone imo. I haven't put any EQ on and don't really feel the need to. They truly are an endgame headphone and has quickly become my new daily driver cans. So although the Organics might be outside your budget (and rightly so lol) I'd still have a close look at the Arya lineup as they all seem like solid choices and should be somewhat similar, just pick one that falls within budget.
Hello, I don't usually post on Reddit, but I want to know your opinion on this I always felt the need and wanted a better sound for my headphones ever since before covid. I've purchased a pair of Coolermaster MH752 and was really satisfied. They served well for over 5 years and they kinda broke this year. They've been replaced by Beyerdynamic MMX 330 Pro and Creative G6 dac/amp. Amazing combo, recommend it. I wanted even more, went to a local shop and listened to HIFIMAN Arya organic and Meze 109 pro, both on a FIIO K17. Been disappointed because I can't hear a difference (or maybe I imagine one of 5%-10% at best) and now I have thoughts about me not being able to hear more sound quality beyond my actual combo with Beyerdynamic. Have I reached the endgame so easily? Is this my diminishing returns end or what? I think I might be an audiofool. P.S. I forgor to mention that I feel like my actual setup could be better, I can hear some deficiencies.
I have the Jotenhiem 2 and had the HD800S and Arya Organic, I believe for gaming the Stealth is better because of soundstage and more accurate measurement of directions proximity. I am currently on IEMs, hard to go back to Open backs headphones. Kiwi Ears Astral are really good IEM for gaming. Is literally endgame for most people and really good for music as-well. Currently using the Monarchs MK4, my end game. I also have the HD560S, HD6XX, HD490 Pros, Pros are technically better than Stealth and Organic, and much cheaper and very good for music, recommend velour pads instead of cloth. DM me for more detail if you want.

Sennheiser
HD 560S
Budget gaming king with clear sound, but tight fit.

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