Epson - EpiqVision Ultra LS800 Ultra Short-Throw Laser Projector

I have epson ls800 and elite screen 120 alr motorized. It's quite nice. The ust is less work and more low key. People come over and don't even know i have a whole projector setup hiding in plain sight.

LS800 here - HDMI 2 (ARC) died for the 2nd time now. Just 9 months after the initial warranty repair. There were some similar complaints from other people. Otherwise - it’s really good, but if it breaks again after the next repair, I will consider something else.

if you have the patience, wait for the epson QS100. not much longer to wait. less than a month for the black version and a month after that for the white version. $5k retail. i have one that i'm comparing to the LS800 if you want to see it in person.

You can't compete with the sun. Without light control no projector will work. An Epson LS800 ultra-short throw and an ALR screen would probably suck least (or some other super bright UST projector) but they also suffer from ambient light, the ALR screen does help a great deal. When the LS800 is at full power, the fan noise can also be objectionable (I run mine at 70% to improve black level and shut it up).

People can barely see a difference between 1080p and 4K from 12 feet away (at 15 they can't). So 4K with shifting vs 4K at 12, 10 feet is indistinguishable. Sure, if you get closer - like a few feet - it's obvious, but who watches at 2 feet? But sure, I'm biased, my LS800 "only" does doubled up 1080. And at least partially because of that it has 4000+ lumens of firepower, I'm sure. Easier to get more light through a coarser grid.

Laser speckle is mitigated with the right screen choice, but of course the color wheel flicker and RBE is not great if you're sensitive to that. Every single DLP projector on the market has that possibility, they all have some level of RBE. For UST's that literally leaves you with the Epson LS800 as an option; 3LCD. Not the most contrasty, pretty decent with a 0.5 gain screen and run at 70% brightness, single laser so no speckle (but also narrower color gamut).

Even though I own and love my Epson LS800 UST, if I wasn't scared shitless of rainbow effect I'd probabaly have bought something else that's more contrasty for night-time viewing. Currently, even though it's only $2 grand on pre-order, I might get in line for the new Nexigo Aurora variant, sight unseen.

You'll get more light out of it, but the Sony is still no doubt a pretty capable unit. 60000:1 contrast and SXRD (LCoS) tech should translate to a fantastic picture with great black level. The 1000 lumen capacity somewhat lets it down but in a darkened room perhaps not so much. Based on the numbers the fan is also silent. Epson are known for having vacuum cleaner like fans. My own UST Epson is unbearable on 100%, but thankfully quite pleasant at 70% power. Even then it's a lot louder than the 22 db your Sony claims. There's frankly a real possibility you'll be disappointed. And returning the item may be legally fine but it would be a hassle to say the least. Going from a liquid crystal on silicon projector to triple transmissive LCD is going backwards insofar as projector technology is concerned. So, maybe you want to consider looking into a newer unit with that technology instead, with more light output and 4K. JVC's D-ILA is one option, and Sony SXRD obviously. They're a bit pricier but the entry level JVC isn't truly brutal. The LS12000 is a fine projector, but light levels aside I don't think you'd necessarily be entirely pleased by the drawbacks you might experience. At a mere (in this context) 110 inch screen, you might also be a candidate for an ultra short throw, and an ALR screen. For instance the new Nexigo Aurora Pro MK II and a new Fresnel or lamellar ambient light rejecting screen. The ALR screen for UST projectors is insanely good at rejecting ambient light, and the projectors are getting good. The PX3-Pro being another (top notch) option. You could even go with the Aurora Pro without a MK and pay $2000 usd for the projector, the 110 inch screen should be easily under a thousand. If there's space on the wall, a 120 too. A 132 ALR from Nothing Projector is just a little north of a grand (132 being the largest screen out there that is seamless). Going beyond 132 in size would be doubtful with an USD.

I mean, I've only actively watched one which is my Epson LS800 so that's by definition the best projector I've used this year. :) Also, high-end is $250000 so you probably don't mean high end. What do I think you should buy? A 120 inch ALR screen and a Nexigo Aurora Pro MK II, or PX3-Pro ultra-short throw projector. Otherwise, maybe a Valerion Visionmaster Max if you want to use a boring old icky white screen and want a longer throw projector. The Visionmaster 2 Pro is on sale also https://www.valerion.com/global/projector-sale - buy the package with the 120 inch Fresnel ALR screen and sell your 100 inch presumably white screen to someone else.

The LS650 is already capable of 5000+ lumens. My 800 is 4000, but I run it at less than that for lower fan noise and better black level (I think many Epson owners will wind up at 70% laser power to shut the fan up). But more lumens doesn't make it perform better while projecting at a wall. It might make it worse, since you pump even more spill light into the ceiling which will exterminate your contrast. The darkest black you can ever get is the color of the projection surface and the more waste light hits it, the less dark that surface gets.

I'm immediately going to be that guy and say you meant "put the onus on" the manufacturers rather than the impetus. ;) Noteworthy to me is that the Nexigo had the top score for black level and shadow detail, a hugely important criterion for movie viewing in a light controlled room. Epson also seems to have made some questionable choices there, indeed. My LS800 looks pretty good when dialed in (but then again, Epson also fucked up by removing most of the calibration options, an inexplicable choice to this day and if anyone at Epson ever reads this, consider yourself to be staring at two middle fingers raised in your general direction for that). In fact, since I got my HTPC set up with madVR filters and let that do the dynamic HDR instead it became even better. Also: all the projectors are listed as 3840x2160 native, which is pretty wrong across the board.

Im exchanging my ls800 for the Hisense. It absolutely sucks at gaming , you can't adjust setting on the HDMI 3 game input and spiderman/call of duty looks like 1080i Movies looked really nice tho and more brightness than needed in the basement. The throw is really short but this also makes it hard to set up right and hard to position my center channel

I like my LS800 a lot and the throw is so short. I have 120" in my basement no problem without it having to sit on the floor

I'm super impressed with my Epson LS800. This one has the shortest throw too

One of the projectors was on Hisense own 110" ALR screen, and the laser specle is there to distract me. For the second projector I have a silver ticket 110" eclipse with a gain of 0.42, and I can see the last specle just the same as the Hisense screen. Now I have the ls800 on the silver ticket screen and there's no laser specle, and it looks awesome because no rainbow effect either.

I have a ls800 ust and will not be doing it again with qd-oleds becoming so cheap. It just doesn’t work well for the cost it was initially. The picture quality is meh and you have to adjust it all the time. I think overall it cost 10k and it doesn’t even auto focus. It really should for the price.

A don’t think u need alr unless in like my room u have a window on the back wall was only reason a got the Epson is 800 b

U yanks should be able to pick up the epson ls800b for around that by now Id reckon its fantastic cant recommend it enough

Epson ls800 with solid ALR screen. Ls800 isn’t dlp, so no rainbow effect.

I have the LS800 and love it. The key selling points for me were the brightness, being able to watch any time of day and the throw distance which is super short. The input lag is decent at 18ms and I use it for gaming, movies, TV instead of a traditional TV. I know there are better projectors out there for contrast and picture quality but for me this had the features I needed and it's great 👍 https://preview.redd.it/gpr88i7so6he1.jpeg?width=4080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aa32297d83b3c4c19b88c41d7e63f0b22537c841

I built a cabinet to house my Epson LS800 and Vividstorm S Pro screen. I used the projector against the wall for a year and it was great but the alr screen makes a big difference. I have young kids and so far no issues. https://preview.redd.it/rxpbn9v7lnbe1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7294bd309e223b2f24689fd146554536fa1cd89f

Id go for a Lasertv —> ust like formovie Theater premium BUT prefer Hisense px 3 pro, Epson EpiqVision Ultra LS800 Id go for one of them. Personaly im using actually using epson 5050ub in living room 120“ and laserTv (formovie theater) in mencave 120“

I have an LS800 with 120" screen. Had it for a few years now. It's mostly great. Look into the inputs. There are 3 HDMI and only one is low latency (HDMI 3) which comes at the expense of Arc support, and you'll absolutely need to use that one for gaming. The other inputs have way too high of latency, I can't even play old NES without a big input delay. I now use an HDMI switch and running all my video through that and out to HDMI 3 on the LS800, with an HDFury Arcana to handle the audio. I will warn you that while 120" may seem huge it's absolutely not IMAX, and after you have it a while it won't seem nearly as big. If you have room and budget for 150", I would consider it. Enjoy, laser projectors and particularly USTs are awesome.

Yep on a high end Epson 4K HDR LCD projector at 120 inches Looks so damn good.