Epson - EpiqVision Ultra LS800 Ultra Short-Throw Laser Projector

I have epson ls800 and elite screen 120 alr motorized. It's quite nice. The ust is less work and more low key. People come over and don't even know i have a whole projector setup hiding in plain sight.

LS800 here - HDMI 2 (ARC) died for the 2nd time now. Just 9 months after the initial warranty repair. There were some similar complaints from other people. Otherwise - it’s really good, but if it breaks again after the next repair, I will consider something else.

if you have the patience, wait for the epson QS100. not much longer to wait. less than a month for the black version and a month after that for the white version. $5k retail. i have one that i'm comparing to the LS800 if you want to see it in person.

You can't compete with the sun. Without light control no projector will work. An Epson LS800 ultra-short throw and an ALR screen would probably suck least (or some other super bright UST projector) but they also suffer from ambient light, the ALR screen does help a great deal. When the LS800 is at full power, the fan noise can also be objectionable (I run mine at 70% to improve black level and shut it up).

Nexigo Aurora Pro... will need a new ALR screen, and new media furniture probably. :) The Epson LS800 isn't bad - I love the image from mine with a 0.5 gain screen - but it's not a match when it comes to contrast numbers. But yeah, UST's are not for everybody. They have their pros and cons.

I'm biased since I already did, but I'd consider an ultra short throw projector. 100 inches is way better than 70-something, it's more surface area than that sounds. 110 is a bit of an oddball dimension (I mean it does exist, but usually it's 100 or 120 that's the "norm" especially for UST's). You can get TV's now up to an insane 115 inches, but now we're talking 200 lbs, it takes four guys to move, and it's a glossy mirror (which I personally find extremely annoying). An UST requires a bit of planning but it's easier with 100 inches than 120; a Nexigo Aurora Pro for instance, they get very good reviews generally speaking and produce a great image. Pair that with a 100 inch Formovie Fresnel screen from Projectorscreen.com at under $800 for the screen (an ALR screen is basically mandatory for these types of projectors in my opinion). In fact, I'm sure they'll sell you the Nexigo too. All you need for an install is a media bench up front to park it on, more or less. You also need curtains to control incoming light - the ALR projector screen, especially the Fresnel type, will do a great job rejecting ambient light (that's what ALR stands for, ambient light rejecting) but you still want to darken the room. A big OLED TV will give you way better contrast, but that doesn't mean you'll get a bad one with an UST. Another option for the screen would be a 100 inch motorized floor-rising screen for UST projectors. Price for that would go up from a static always-up screen, but it would give you higher WAF if the screen can just discreetly go away behind the media furniture when not viewing content. The tricky part with UST's is mounting a center speaker. Mine had to go under the projector on a shelf, so that's something to ponder and have a plan for. [Best Ultra Short Throw Projectors 2023 (UST) || AWOL LTV-3500 Pro, Nexigo Aurora Pro, Epson LS800 | The Hook Up, YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef0tNjGDoOU) - I mean, see for yourself what an assortment of good UST's can look like. Is the contrast worse than OLED? Sure. Is it *bad*? Hell no. (Why am I not pushing the LS800 I have? Lower contrast, higher price - but it does not have a rainbow effect and its very bright, and the two latter concerns is why I went with this. The Nexigo is considerably better in dark rooms. I love my Epson, but even so.)

You'll get more light out of it, but the Sony is still no doubt a pretty capable unit. 60000:1 contrast and SXRD (LCoS) tech should translate to a fantastic picture with great black level. The 1000 lumen capacity somewhat lets it down but in a darkened room perhaps not so much. Based on the numbers the fan is also silent. Epson are known for having vacuum cleaner like fans. My own UST Epson is unbearable on 100%, but thankfully quite pleasant at 70% power. Even then it's a lot louder than the 22 db your Sony claims. There's frankly a real possibility you'll be disappointed. And returning the item may be legally fine but it would be a hassle to say the least. Going from a liquid crystal on silicon projector to triple transmissive LCD is going backwards insofar as projector technology is concerned. So, maybe you want to consider looking into a newer unit with that technology instead, with more light output and 4K. JVC's D-ILA is one option, and Sony SXRD obviously. They're a bit pricier but the entry level JVC isn't truly brutal. The LS12000 is a fine projector, but light levels aside I don't think you'd necessarily be entirely pleased by the drawbacks you might experience. At a mere (in this context) 110 inch screen, you might also be a candidate for an ultra short throw, and an ALR screen. For instance the new Nexigo Aurora Pro MK II and a new Fresnel or lamellar ambient light rejecting screen. The ALR screen for UST projectors is insanely good at rejecting ambient light, and the projectors are getting good. The PX3-Pro being another (top notch) option. You could even go with the Aurora Pro without a MK and pay $2000 usd for the projector, the 110 inch screen should be easily under a thousand. If there's space on the wall, a 120 too. A 132 ALR from Nothing Projector is just a little north of a grand (132 being the largest screen out there that is seamless). Going beyond 132 in size would be doubtful with an USD.

Cabinets being custom might make sense since projectors tend to have different throw distances so they need to be different distances from the wall and screen. USTs are fixed, they have no adjustability so they have to be placed 100% correctly vs the screen. Good starting points for the floor-rising screen might be Vividstorm (almost the default budget choice) or Spectra Vision from Projectorscreen. They also have a whole array of cabinets to choose from https://www.projectorscreen.com/ust-projector-cabinets - I'm not that up to speed with what's out there, but there's stuff like this after some googling https://maxlightprojection.com/ - but then again, for a dedicated space you can just use a fixed screen and save a thousand bucks. Just have to think about how to place the UST and a center speaker. Me, I just went with an Epson LS800 and a $300 IKEA Bestå bench and made do. Worked out great. Looks decent but not as pretty as sinking the projector into the furniture obviously. And god no, not a soundbar for $15 grand. Come on now. 😀 /r/hometheater is a great place to go talk audio. You want an AV Receiver and at least 5 speakers and a subwoofer or two. I can offer some opinions here for starters. Subwoofers - well, why not go big but not insane? With 15000 squre feet you need serious subs. Two of these puppies: https://hsuresearch.com/collections/collections-true-subwoofers-subset-collection/products/vtf-tn1 AVR: If you were going to go soundbar, you probably will be fine with 5.2.2 or 7.2, so https://www.denon.com/en/product/av-receivers/avr-x1800h/AVRX1800H.html entry level goodness but not entry level as in feature free. These are great units. If you do want to go hog wild with 7 or 9 bed layer speakers and 6 Atmos heights, you need to buy a considerably pricier model with more channels. That can be done later if you feel you must. Speakers, so many options, but maybe some KEF Q150 or Q350 on stands and a Q250 or Q650 center. Klipsch has great speakers in the RP lineup. The new ELAC Debut 3 and one of their centers. Monolith has their THX range of towers and satellites, sadly often with useless upward firing Atmos speakers on them. Polk R series. I mean... so many options. Also, if this is a concrete basement, you will almost certainly be better off budgeting for audio treatments as well or else you'll be listening to sound bouncing pretty hard. You can DIY audio panels from rockwool in some wooden frames and covered with some acoustic fabric, that's cheap, or you can buy absorption and maybe diffuser panels ready made.

I mean, I've only actively watched one which is my Epson LS800 so that's by definition the best projector I've used this year. :) Also, high-end is $250000 so you probably don't mean high end. What do I think you should buy? A 120 inch ALR screen and a Nexigo Aurora Pro MK II, or PX3-Pro ultra-short throw projector. Otherwise, maybe a Valerion Visionmaster Max if you want to use a boring old icky white screen and want a longer throw projector. The Visionmaster 2 Pro is on sale also https://www.valerion.com/global/projector-sale - buy the package with the 120 inch Fresnel ALR screen and sell your 100 inch presumably white screen to someone else.

I'm immediately going to be that guy and say you meant "put the onus on" the manufacturers rather than the impetus. ;) Noteworthy to me is that the Nexigo had the top score for black level and shadow detail, a hugely important criterion for movie viewing in a light controlled room. Epson also seems to have made some questionable choices there, indeed. My LS800 looks pretty good when dialed in (but then again, Epson also fucked up by removing most of the calibration options, an inexplicable choice to this day and if anyone at Epson ever reads this, consider yourself to be staring at two middle fingers raised in your general direction for that). In fact, since I got my HTPC set up with madVR filters and let that do the dynamic HDR instead it became even better. Also: all the projectors are listed as 3840x2160 native, which is pretty wrong across the board.

Leave the OLED VIVIDSTORM S PRO Motorized Tension Floor Rising UST ALR Projector Screen 110” $1440 Nexigo Aurora Pro $2699 That should would be pretty nice combo if in budget. Verify throw measurements before ordering. Epson LS800 another good one. Size matters a lot for movie enjoyment. Big difference between 75” and 110” although 110” is on the small side for 14’ viewing. You would want closer to 135” or more for the immersive feel or get your distance closer.

Im exchanging my ls800 for the Hisense. It absolutely sucks at gaming , you can't adjust setting on the HDMI 3 game input and spiderman/call of duty looks like 1080i Movies looked really nice tho and more brightness than needed in the basement. The throw is really short but this also makes it hard to set up right and hard to position my center channel

I like my LS800 a lot and the throw is so short. I have 120" in my basement no problem without it having to sit on the floor

I'm super impressed with my Epson LS800. This one has the shortest throw too

I have a ls800 ust and will not be doing it again with qd-oleds becoming so cheap. It just doesn’t work well for the cost it was initially. The picture quality is meh and you have to adjust it all the time. I think overall it cost 10k and it doesn’t even auto focus. It really should for the price.

A don’t think u need alr unless in like my room u have a window on the back wall was only reason a got the Epson is 800 b

U yanks should be able to pick up the epson ls800b for around that by now Id reckon its fantastic cant recommend it enough

Epson ls800 with solid ALR screen. Ls800 isn’t dlp, so no rainbow effect.

I have the LS800 and love it. The key selling points for me were the brightness, being able to watch any time of day and the throw distance which is super short. The input lag is decent at 18ms and I use it for gaming, movies, TV instead of a traditional TV. I know there are better projectors out there for contrast and picture quality but for me this had the features I needed and it's great 👍 https://preview.redd.it/gpr88i7so6he1.jpeg?width=4080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aa32297d83b3c4c19b88c41d7e63f0b22537c841

I built a cabinet to house my Epson LS800 and Vividstorm S Pro screen. I used the projector against the wall for a year and it was great but the alr screen makes a big difference. I have young kids and so far no issues. https://preview.redd.it/rxpbn9v7lnbe1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7294bd309e223b2f24689fd146554536fa1cd89f

Id go for a Lasertv —> ust like formovie Theater premium BUT prefer Hisense px 3 pro, Epson EpiqVision Ultra LS800 Id go for one of them. Personaly im using actually using epson 5050ub in living room 120“ and laserTv (formovie theater) in mencave 120“

I have an LS800 with 120" screen. Had it for a few years now. It's mostly great. Look into the inputs. There are 3 HDMI and only one is low latency (HDMI 3) which comes at the expense of Arc support, and you'll absolutely need to use that one for gaming. The other inputs have way too high of latency, I can't even play old NES without a big input delay. I now use an HDMI switch and running all my video through that and out to HDMI 3 on the LS800, with an HDFury Arcana to handle the audio. I will warn you that while 120" may seem huge it's absolutely not IMAX, and after you have it a while it won't seem nearly as big. If you have room and budget for 150", I would consider it. Enjoy, laser projectors and particularly USTs are awesome.

Yep on a high end Epson 4K HDR LCD projector at 120 inches Looks so damn good.