Home Cinema 3800

RBE hater here represented - I actually tried out a TK700Sti after reading all the good stuff about it. Turns out, I see RBE literally almost every second, and hated it. Returned it, and now have an Epson TW7100 (or 3800 for US) and love it. Tiny bit softer picture, but other than that it's perfect for my needs.

So I’m in your exact situation. Have a 2150 that is on its last leg. I have been in search for a replacement for around 2 years and just have not found anything worth the money. I tried the 3800 and it was bright but it honestly felt less sharp than my 2150 so I returned it in hopes of the 5050 dropping its price down to 2200 again but it just keeps getting more expensive and I just can’t justify it. Fast forward to recently and I gave up on the 5050. I bought the epson lifestudio grand and ust. I just couldn’t make a ust work with my setup but I did really like the brightness and sharpness. Then I bought the XGIMI Horizon 20 pro to see if I was still bothered by the rainbow effect. The picture was absolutely stunning but I was really bothered by the rbe especially when playing games. The luminous boost which reduces the rbe effect almost worked but still couldn’t do it. If your not susceptible to rbe I would definitely say get a xgimi or valerion. If you setup works with a ust the lifestudio grand goes on sale for around 2k often and would recommend. If you can’t do ust and are rbe sensitive join me in my wait for something to spend my money on 😂

Asking for reddit wisdom to help me replace my current setup with an UST + ALR, any experience appreciated. **Current setup** I have a room that can't be properly light-controlled. There is a big bright window on the left side closed with blackout curtains that is enough to comfortably watch most movies but plenty of light still leaks. Currently, I am using an Epson EH-TW7100 (3k lumens, pixel shift), on a 120 inch piece of white wall. The main problem is ambient light from the window. The second problem is connecting my audio system via eARC to the soundbar having the projector 6m away from the soundbar (proper cabler routing needs 20m in one direction and a lot of suffering). **Potential solution** I've been thinking of buying a Fresnel ALR screen (flipped upside down) and mounting an UST projector **to the ceiling**. Then running the cable to the soundbar beneath the screen. The budget is within \~5k euro (5.8k usd). I do not care about light from the ceiling, I have direct lights, I don't direct them to the screen and I turn them off when it's bright outside. The only real light source is from the window that's ortogonal to the screen and located about 2 meters (6.5 feet) on the left from the screen. **I only consider Epson (3lcd)** because I am extremely sensitive to the rainbow effect. Can't deal with it especially when it's white subtitles on the black background. WRT valerion I've heard that there is laser speckle. I am confident I will not be happy about that too. **The choice #1** **LS800W** for 2230e (2600 USD), it's 4k lumens with pixel shift OR **LS970W** for 3300e (3861 USD), it's 4k lumens AND a **native 4k.** Specs state that the contrast is twice higher but I don't think how to interpret these numbers wrt a projector. **The choice #2** Which Fresnel ALR screen to get? 1. [~~https://www.valerion.com/eu/product/fresnel-ambient-light-rejecting-screen?screen+size=120%27%27&image=0~~](https://www.valerion.com/eu/product/fresnel-ambient-light-rejecting-screen?screen+size=120%27%27&image=0) (this is a long throw screen) 2. [https://nothingprojector.com/products/nothing-projector-120-inch-fresnel-optical-screen-for-ultra-short-throw-projector](https://nothingprojector.com/products/nothing-projector-120-inch-fresnel-optical-screen-for-ultra-short-throw-projector) 3. [https://nothingprojector.com/products/fresnel-optical-screen-for-ust-projectors?variant=41761753202824](https://nothingprojector.com/products/fresnel-optical-screen-for-ust-projectors?variant=41761753202824) (this could be the same as the previous link, the website is confusing) I have heard of Fresnel ALR made specifically for the ceiling mount but I couldn't find those from the reputable sellers. Any non-toxic advice is appreciated.

I don't think people with the 5050UB should be unhappy. But, the LS11000 costs more, and has lower contrast, while XGimi is pushing out models like the Horizon 20, base model, for about $1,600, that is every bit as good or better than what Epson has in their 3200/3800 models, for less/similar money. The high end models that are in the same price range of the 5050UB are squaring up against it nicely. Valerion has been tested against JVC models with solid performance. I think Epson is trying to compete in the high end, instead of doing their best in the middle range where they have excelled for decades. Not just years, but decades they have been such an easy recommendation. We also saw from BenQ that it is not that expensive to switch from a lamp system to a laser system. It just makes no sense to buy a lamp based projector that is over half a decade old in design, considering the competition.

Epson 2040 and 3800 and no noticeable lag. 110" screen with 7.1 speaker set up. RDR2 in particular was absolutely mind blowing. Hearing things all around and really feeling like you're in the game... incredible

I had a movie room setup in my garage with an epson 3800 and 110" screen. It was great for the cinematic experience but any 4k tv would have been an upgrade, quality wise. Also if I could have afforded a laser projector that would have changed that math but if I were to do it all over again with the same room I would get a tv. Ease of use and picture quality and brightness would be the main benefits. If oled screens get any bigger at an affordable price I dont think there's a question. But 120 inches is a big difference from 85 or whatever.