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Epson 3800. Got mine for $650 used
RBE hater here represented - I actually tried out a TK700Sti after reading all the good stuff about it. Turns out, I see RBE literally almost every second, and hated it. Returned it, and now have an Epson TW7100 (or 3800 for US) and love it. Tiny bit softer picture, but other than that it's perfect for my needs.
same here, hate it. I got a Epson 3800 (EH-TW7100) and it's in the living room, no blacking out done and I still think most of the time picture quality is superb. Only sometimes (in darker scenes) I feel like the black levels are a bit raised due to so many white surfaces.
Personally, Epson 3800. I just bought mine used off of eBay, no bulb, no remote, 500$. Bought a bulb and remote for 125$ all together and it's been absolutely incredible for what is just about the same size and throw distance your looking at currently. I have about a 16-14 foot throw distance 120" screen with it not yet mounted and it's decent even with the multiple windows worth of light coming in, and at night it is stunning. Note that this is not only during the day, but the morning, and there are 2 more windows behind this image that add additional room light.
No projector works outside during the day, and dusk is even questionable. But, the Epson 3800 is the model without any RBE that I would get. It will work great indoors as well which is a big plus. Pair it with a Amazon Fire TV Stick and a Bluetooth speaker and it'll be a nice outdoor setup.
I think the Epson is a better model overall with better contrast and much more placement flexibility. The BenQ has faster pixel response time for gaming, and a solid state light engine which is a big plus at this time. If you have access to replacement lamps in the future, then the Epson is an easy favorite in my opinion.
If this is a permanent installation, look at home theater projectors, or lifestyle models designed to be easily ceiling mounted. A proper 5.1 audio installation with an AV receiver is a must, especially in a dedicated space with a home you actually own. Run wiring in the walls before you paint, and you will have a life long proper surround system. Avoid equipment at the front of the room if possible. Run HDMI to the projector and make it so you can swap out that HDMI cable. Wireless/screen mirroring is generally quite a lousy way to do anything. Use a wired device like an Apple TV or a Chromecast. If you're just streaming, consider a Roku or similar. The lifestyle models, as seen in the video, and as recommended with the X1 are decent solutions for sure, but are trickier to ceiling mount if they don't have a 3-point or 4-point mounting structure as is common with traditional projectors. Plus, they rarely have zoom and lens shift is almost unheard of. These are more common features on traditional projectors. But, the Hisense C2 Pro is a model with good zoom but terrible mounting. The Nexigo Trivision Ultra is well reviewed and has 4-point mounting which is nice for a ceiling setup. No zoom, no lens shift, so positioning must be very accurate for best results, as is common. Super easy to setup are models like the Epson 3800, but they are lamp-based and pretty much past their prime. A shame we haven't seen a laser version of those models yet. The BenQ X500i or X3100i are considerations as is the TK710 (or TK710STi) which are decent traditional models. High end starts around $5000 with Epson, Sony, and JVC models, all worthy in a good theater. Not sure what you're really hoping to spend here. A fixed frame screen from Silver Ticket is a excellent way to go.
I would get rid of the credenza at the front of the room completely in favor of a screen that's a bit lower on the wall. You will want to pull the chains off the ceiling fan so they aren't in the way, and get a projector with extensive lens shift like a Epson 3800 or better, JVC, Sony will also work, then you can ceiling mount and drop the lens so it is under the ceiling fan's light, or swap the current ceiling fan for a low profile ceiling fan only and add recessed lights to the space. Walls and ceiling and carpet are all terrible colors for best performance, and you should plan to address surround sound in the room as well. The Epson 5050UB, if you're in the USA, is still a pretty solid option overall. Lots of lens shift and solid image quality overall, despite the age. It's under budget and gives you some money for a good ceiling mount (Chief RPMAU) and a decent screen (Silver Ticket, fixed frame, matte white). With the steps up to the attic right there, it looks like putting in recessed lights in that room should be super simple(ish). Not sure how handy you are, but I like this room. Might be worth spending on some motorized blackout shades for the window as well to add that 'cool' factor.
Epson 2040 and 3800 and no noticeable lag. 110" screen with 7.1 speaker set up. RDR2 in particular was absolutely mind blowing. Hearing things all around and really feeling like you're in the game... incredible
Too many units have this corner fuzzy errors on Epson 3800. Thats why was a no no for me and buyed the Hisense c2 that I fell on love since the first time I turn on and watched the Witcher 4 trailer on it.
you don’t need to spend crazy money in a room that. i have more natural light coming in than you appear to and my epson 3800 does a great job for daytime NFL games for example. any competently designed modern projection from a legit manufacturer has a sufficient refresh rate for sports broadcasts in my experience. you may be confusing sports and gaming here. serious gamers obsess over refresh rates and don’t have experience with that but for watching sports events it is not a problem. also most people that are concerned about a budget and not obsessing over pixels do not need a true 4k unit. the pseudo 4k units like the 3800 produce a beautiful image that you would struggle to differentiate from true 4k without careful inspection that usually would require you to step very close to the screen. and most sports aren’t in 4k anyway for other reasons. it would be worthwhile finding out what type of screen you have though. if we assume it is of the same vintage as the old projector it is likely to be a traditional screen but it would be good to confirm fabric type and gain level if you could.
it’s also worth saying that many of the YouTube reviewers and forums in this space targeting a younger audience are very focused on 2-3 companies. Valerion and XGIMI are among them. i assume these companies have been aggressively courting the YouTubers as the focus of their marketing campaigns. they make some gear with impressive specs that many people seem to be very happy with. but please be aware that companies like epson, sony, JVC, optoma, and others have a much longer record of selling excellent gear and backing it up with success over time. they don’t seem to be betting on the YouTubers as hard but perhaps that is unfair. it may be worth paying more for something like a sony or epson with proven quality, color profiles, image processing , and optical lens shift over these newer brands that may lack these features in favor of higher contrast specs and such. but to each their own.
Did you test with sdr? Epson 3800 iirc has iris so should get higher contrast. Advantage of laser projector is color coverage for bt2020 and laser dimming without subtitles - so in dark scenes the laser can dim to have even better black floor. If you watch non dark content with subtitles then just keep the epson. Also, contrast ratio is affected by zoom level - try the same throw ratio on the others to match the epson. Maximum throw gives higher contrast, so your valerion at its biggest picture vs smallest picture will have like 40% contrast difference. Smaller picture has better pq, so you need to put the projector further back.
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