Epson - Home Cinema LS11000 4K PRO-UHD Laser Projector (V11HA48020)

I recently upgraded from a ben q w6000 1080p projector to a epson ls 11000 4k projector and with 4k hdr and 120hz for gaming the experience has been amazing.

I've been using [this](https://www.amazon.com/Epson-LS11000-Projector-Brightness-Motorized/dp/B09TS2M1ZS?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.XZzH7VDB6ZaPMp6jyKLDp3MBadSHyBoqwy2afb2uVkYEsBAU5eYi9GPnUIDZogMKqm4Ej43WksiT6j_4UzIpBMKU8OQ9ej1rvRQzX8RUb7IwVMGlGg_KgrCYKE7ZH5t0vw5Yh-EBfcllIx_ciG_OWr7ugnyPoIttRdfGUdljp95TGRfl6JJCfuvQIzUKwjsrwEG_sEd0fzw62B3PcA2vGieGUhvzKIkuxwihEqVYZes.um1GbzlQFc3AjWmsk-zrHPPCmreExxSW7DTxyMEs_Z8&dib_tag=se&keywords=Epson+LS11000&qid=1751013649&sr=8-1&linkCode=ll1&tag=grok43-20&linkId=9d852fac2b09c8dea2dd3bb4f0edcd1a&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) from epson for a while now and it's been fantastic. The image is super sharp, colors are rich (not washed out at all), and HDR really pops. Setup was easy thanks to the motorized lens shift and zoom. It's quiet, handles movies and gaming really well (120Hz is great), and the HDMI 2.1 is perfect if you're using a next-gen console. It doesn’t have built-in speakers, but honestly, a simple soundbar works better than most projector speakers anyway. Solid choice if you want a high-end home theater experience without getting crazy complicated.

You will be very underwhelmed with the lifestyle options when coming from a solid home theater designed model. DLP may match the contrast of your old 8350, but the most comparable model to the 8350 today would be the Epson 4010. Better is their 5050UB, or LS11000/LS12000 series of projectors. Those are the direct upgrades to the 8350. The lack of zoom and lens shift means you are basically using keystone correction and digital zoom to make the image fit your screen. This loses resolution as well as light output when in use. Always. And should be avoided. It is still a personal decision, but I wouldn't expect you to feel like it is an upgrade in the least. But, you may be happy to live with it so you can put the projector where you want it.

I agree with u/TechNick1-1 on this. There are many sideways moves and the LS11000/LS12000 would be an upgrade that biggest jump you are getting is the solid state light source and the jump in contrast. The 4-way pixel shift for 4K would also be a improvement, but I don't think it is massive as LCD is good, but not as sharp as the DLP models out there. Still, much better contrast. Especially in a good room. In a light colored room or with some ambient light, those advantages are pretty much lost. The BenQ TK710 would likely have been my choice over the 3800 for mostly sports viewing, but that just recently came to the market. But, those are very parallel models IMO. So, not an improvement really, just a bit different. I'd keep what you have for the moment.

I was also going to recommend the Epson 2800 or 5050ub or LS11000. Epson makes some of the best projectors under $4k if you care about image quality/contrast and they are bright enough for daylight viewing, especially if you get an ALR screen. And if you don't have a totally light controlled home theater there is probably not much benefit spending tons more on high spec projectors, because many of the technically better Sony and JVC projectors can't match the light output of the Epsons so they would be worse in a typical living room environment.

I just upgraded my Epson 5040ub to the Epson Ls11000. I will be selling my 5040 which has a brand new Epson bulb which cost $330. Dm me if you’re interested.

https://preview.redd.it/rp2mftloo1me1.jpeg?width=3752&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f245a1fe8e2fa02e10c507bbbc9d4e4d39944fbe I’ve posted this a few times so apologies to those who keep seeing it. This is from my LS11000. Using my iPhone11. Un-retouched btw. Great projector. Great colours, quiet unless you 100% laser (mines at 50 with a one stop ND filter) good sharp picture (zoom the above image) and easy to set up with motorised zoom and shift. it’s only “issues” are JVC has better black levels - though I would say colours aren’t as intense. There is an issue with “cyan push I. HDR with bt2020. That some notice. It can be corrected for, which I have done.

Here's my breakdown - Anthem AVM70 pre/processor $3200 - Epson home cinema LS11000 projector $3500 - Two (2) summit HIFI A7 seven channel power amps $4500 - Two (2) Power sound audio S2112M 21 inch subs $3700 - Two (2) JBL HDI 3800 towers $2500 - Two (2) JBL HDI 3600 towers $2000 - four (4) JBL HDI 1600 bookshelf $2000 - one (1) JBL HDai 4500 center $950 - Nvidia Shield pro $200 - PS5/XBOX series X (dealer's choice) $500 - Furman PL-PRO C 20A power conditioner $530 That leaves you with $1500 or so to buy cables (please don't buy expensive cables. Just get generic 12 gauge speaker cable and some generic banana plugs, generic HDMI 2.1 cables etc.) and a rack/hardware you need to house everything. Those JBLs are heavily on sale on Critchfield super good deal. With 14 amp channels you can run your 4 ceiling speakers as height channels and 9 regular channels.

from that list I think my personal top would be LS11000 also go browse AVSforum for used and look for JVC also also [The Hook Up channel has some cool vids](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClIboELoz74) and [this ones nice too](https://youtu.be/TjgXfRMtmSU?si=T5tb2S0Hzt37csYM)

I have the same issue in an undedicated room with a little light and chose the Elitescreen 3D variant thinking the ALR screen will have a meaningful effect. It definitely looks good head on, but starts to lose brightness 10ft or so off-center, and is watchable up to 70deg. However, since my projector is a JVC NP5, it doesn't get bright enough to overcome a majority of the light that falls on my screen, so the ALR isn't really a feature that's needed IMO. If I could do it all over, I would just get the cinegrey and not deal with any speckling or hot-spotting. And yes, there is a major difference between the LS11000 and Ls12000, as long at you watch at night, your black levels will be vastly darker on the latter. I had the LS11000 for awhile and returned it because the blacks were a muddy Grey, and I prefer contrast over brightness.

Thanks for the feedback. Yeah, I did compare refurb prices and I think I settled on the LS11k refurb, which gives me $1,000 to invest elsewhere for our overall home renovation. Coming from a HomeCinema 2040 that I had since 2017 and getting a real screen (we have just been throwing the picture against a wall right now) I think we are going to be blown away either way... Great insights on the ALR screens! I haven't really read up on it enough to understand it well. Are you suggesting I move the projector or are you saying that the angle between the love seat and an ALR screen will always be bad. FWIW, we haven't really picked furniture yet and this is just a concept i plugged in to get a sense of the space. We may just end up watching from an L-shaped 4 seat sofa or something.

Thanks! Yeah I pulled the trigger on the 11k refurb and purchased directly from Epson as that was the only site were it was available, even though the return policy isn’t the best. What screen are you using it with?

Just for the record, the Nexigo Aurora Pro produces a better image than an Epson LS11000 (not necessarily the 12000, the 12000 does have higher contrast than the 11000 and otherwise very mildly better spec) and gets the benefit of the ALR screen to boot. So while the LS12000 is a great projector it's not necessarily *that* much better and it costs more. https://youtu.be/NCfnwnLk8Yo?feature=shared&t=625 - from a series of comparisons that The Hook Up (great channel) on Youtube did. He gave the nod to the Nexigo over LS11000 - but again, the LS12000 is somewhat better than the 11000, but just for some context. https://www.projectorscreen.com/blog/Epson-LS11000-vs-LS12000-Comparison is also interesting. So if you don't want to bolt stuff to the ceiling, there's really not much need these days. Plus you lose the benefits of ALR and those are not to be pooh poohed in my opinion. To conclusively and thoroughly beat the best UST projectors, I would personally think that would take a JVC that's five figures, ideally combined with a SI Black Diamond screen that costs thousands and thousands as well. But that's no longer remotely an apples to apples comparison. Of course this is just one home hobbyist's opinions.

Epson have had a bunch of those a while now. First (and still relevant with 8000:1 contrast today for a fourth the price of the 1000) the 5050ub which is bulb fed but otherwise almost identical, and then the LS11000 and LS12000 which are lasers. The LS12000 is a very mildly worse variant of the QB1000.

Epson LS11000 is a solid pick for that budget. I am using it on a 100" and beyond happy.

10k for projector is a lot. As someone said, epson ls 12000 or 11000 are great quality laser projectors, even though not native 4k. You probably need to better receiver like a Marantz Cinema 50 or 60 or a comparable Denon. Not sure which brand of screens is included either but looks overpriced

Hello, great question and basic answer is NO! A little backstory first. I have been using projectors since my early days at Sony Canada. I have owned multiple Epson projectors from the basic models and the 5030, 5040 and 5050UB so I have plenty of experience with the Epson line. I actually ordered the LS11000 as I was tired of the bulb and wanted to switch to laser a few years back. Within two hours it was back in the box going back to Epson Canada. Not that it wasn’t a nice machine but there wasn’t really a noticeable difference between the 5050UB and the LS11000. It was at that point I started searching through the newer ‘lifestyle’ projectors with LED and Laser technology. I tried literally 8 different models with none covering all the bases I needed. Then, by chance I found the JMGO Kickstarter and decided to back it. A week later I backed out (just a gut feeling) a month or so later I rebacked which ended up costing me another $600 I believe it was as I had missed the early bird offer. Anyways, long story short, I received the JMGO N1 Ultra and it was a game changer. EVERYTHING I was looking for in a projector and then some in a package that made the Epson line feel like semi trucks in size and with performance that smoked the Epson line. Needless to say I was so impressed with the technology I restarted my YouTube channel based on home theatre reviews and have now don’t many reviews on all the models up to the newest JMGO N1S Umtimate which is the best projector I have ever used, Hands down. It available shipped to Canada from Amazon US for $2099 on sale right now, even with the shipping charge to Canada you will still be lesser than the used Epson…by far. Check out my review on this model as well as other JMGO projectors and I PROMISE, you will not regret it! https://preview.redd.it/j0954tai7uye1.jpeg?width=5712&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=540f05f8f34a9f8e097218a22dfed10693b30655 This image is 160” on a wall only, no expensive screen etc and it it so close to OLED it is ridiculous. [https://youtu.be/996Q7jpC1eo?si=26gC3wYrxHioab0s](https://youtu.be/996Q7jpC1eo?si=26gC3wYrxHioab0s) [https://a.co/d/bVzQKAe](https://a.co/d/bVzQKAe)

Had this same back and forth myself a few months ago, ended up going with the refurb LS11000 for $2700 and haven’t regretted it. Decided I’d rather spend that $1300 on upgrading my audio equipment

I went from an old 8350 a refurb LS11k. Can confirm I was blown away (still am). Contemplated the L12k but am happy with my decision.

Used 5050UB, Epson LS11000, Epson LS12000

The ls11000 is a great unit but for $500 more you can get a manufacturer refurbished ls12000 with full warranty. As another commenter said, the np5 is a great unit and is currently at $4,000 but it is not laser. I’d be happy to get into details with you about all of the options; shoot me a DM if interested.

I was going to recommend the epson 5050 but if you don’t need 3-d then the 11000 is probably the best solution.

Since people typically buy only ONE projector, their experience is limited. But I'll toss in a vote for the Epson. I have owned the LS11000 paired with a 120" Da-Lite screen for almost three years and couldn't be happier with its performance. My use is similar to yours, and the 4K 120 Hz refresh rate delivers excellent quality for fast paced open world gaming on a big screen. The LS12000 has better blacks and color, so it is sure to beat the excellent experience I've had with its sibling.

I went with an Epson LS11000 to get 4K @ 120Hz which gives you plenty of frames for fast paced gaming on PS5. Depending on the distance between you PJ and equipment, you will need some optical HDMI cables to insure large enough bandwidth.

Yes, you can get an [Epson Home Cinema LS11000 for $3700 US](https://epson.com/For-Home/Projectors/Home-Cinema/Home-Cinema-LS11000-4K-PRO-UHD-Laser-Projector/p/V11HA48020) that does full 3,840 x 2,160-pixe (4K)l at 120 frames per second with <20 ms lag. The laser lasts 20,000 hours as opposed to a bulb. It literally is a gaming projector. And don't let the naysayers dissuade you with "it not real 4K," because I actually own the thing and it far exceeds my picture expectations for 4K quality on a 120" screen!

The market may have changed, but the Epson LS11000 laser projector is 4K, 120 Hz refresh rate, HDR10, less than 20ms latency and in your price range. I've had it for over 2 years and use it frequently for open world gaming and love it!

I’d likely go for the LS11000. Do you know the screen gain for your current screen? That will make a difference in getting good black levels.

I have a similar setup and recently bought Epson LS11000, though it is not true 4k. It uses pixel shifting. If ambient light is not an issue then it is a good option to consider

I purchased, auditioned, and returned 6 projectors before buying my Epson LS11000. That included 3 other Epson bulb based projectors and a few cheap led projectors to evaluate. This probably took about 9 months to settle on.

ALL Epsons below the LS11000 are not 4x (1080p) Pixelshifter and therefore not True 4K.

LOL! The "blind" Epson Fanboys downvoting....

EPSON LS11000 and higher is!

Its not 4K because it only shifts (after the Update) 3 x 1080p. So 2.015 Million Pixel are missing. The LS11000 and higher Models are true 4K because they shift 4x1080p.

Read the small Print... " 1 4K Enhancement Technology shifts each pixel diagonally to double Full HD resolution. Resolution is Full HD in 3D Mode." DOUBLE Full HD = 2x1080p which will only "software upscaled" to "4K" then. LS11000 and higher Models shift the Picture 4x.

If you want to stay with Epson only the LS11000 or LS12000 would be a real Upgrade. Otherwise wait for the long overdue Successor of the HC 3800.

I commend you for getting a nice ass projector, step 1 accomplished exceedingly well. Please take step 2 seriously, and that is the screen. They do make a difference. Stewart Screen Firehawk ALR is where I would start. FWIW, I have an Epson ls11000 and an ALR screen in my living room that is open to the kitchen and breakfast room with a fuck ton of ambient light. The difference when I switched to the ALR screen was seriously impressive.

Had the 11000, now have the ql3000. The QL blows every aspect out of the water. Obviously soooooo much brighter (never seen a nice projector this bright in my life), crisper, the motion is sooooooooo much better, I can watch HDR (I don't have full light control, so HDR on the 11000 is very hard for me. IF you have the budget for the QL3000 please go it. You will not be disappointed. I have seen the QL3000 in a true side by side against the Sony 5000 and 6000, and this thing mopped the floor of both Sony's.

If you are considering the Sony 5000, you should really consider the Epson QL3000. I have seen the Sony and the Epson side by side, matching Stewart screens playing the same scene at the same time from Zero Dark Thirty. The helicopter is there on the Epson and is flipping invisible on the Sony. The sports in the Epson absolutely positively obliterate the Sony. The difference was astounding. I have an LS11000. I hate it so I went into this skeptical, but gawdddd damn the QL3000 is on my wish list.

I'm sorry but you won't be happy with your options at that budget level. You will need an almost completely dark room. I use a projector as my main TV in my open floor plan living room/kitchen. I have an ALR screen and a Epson ls11000. Wanted the 12000 for the extra lumens but this was during the pandy and the 11000 was all my supplier had. I can tell you it's barely bright enough at 2700 lumens.

I would say the Epson. I have the ls11000, about to upgrade to the QL3000. The QB1000 will give you the lumens you need for your living room. You say you'll mostly watch at night, but I promise, as I have mine in my living room as well with a shit ton of ambient light, you will use it a lot, and a lot more during the day than you'd expect. That Sony is going to struggle in ambient light conditions...the Jvc should as well, but I am not totally familiar with it's lumen specs.

Would be nice if you could confirm the 11000... Esp. in Europe there is quite a difference in price (800 eur) for functionality that perhaps does not add not enough for many people. (edit: I missed the dynamic contrast difference)

Nice to know... Although it is difficult to see what could fit below it at this point. Feature-wise they could save on motorized zoom, focus and lens-shift, and remove lens memory. But image-wise... less lumen would put it well behind the TW7100, and what image aspects remain would put it either close or below the TW7100 (not an upgrade) or too close to the LS11000... Let's see if Cedia brings more...

Same here, but for the LS11000. :-) It seems my cheapest option (long throw non-dlp with laser)... So waiting for a sale or announcement of new models - whichever comes first.

LS11000 would have been fine for me but I figured if I'm spending that much and the ceiling is already black, why not. The LS12000 looks fantastic but you'll be limited if streaming content, I ended up going back to 4k UHD discs to really take advantage of it. When your looking at contrast ratios, light control and reflections are key. I've still got cream walls and it does limit the contrast ratios a bit, how much i'm not sure as we haven't decided on a wall treatment yet. The only other limitation is Dolby Vision but this is a larger issue with 4k projectors, they don't support it. HDFury devices can working as a bridging layer to get the functionality and might be something worth looking into depending on content.

Confirmed the 11000 is not going anywhere.  There is no newer version of it coming any time soon.  At least that’s what I was just told.  

The only 4k120hz projector is the LS11000/LS12000 but the 4k120hz mode is not worth using due to the slow pixel response time of their LCD panels. Here's an explanation of why there are no DLP 4k120hz projectors and why DLP at 1080p120hz or 240hz is a much better option: [https://youtu.be/biXPgm-pxiU?si=oYPaBJqPFzoSD\_R3&t=302](https://youtu.be/biXPgm-pxiU?si=oYPaBJqPFzoSD_R3&t=302) If you are looking for laser the new BENQ TK710STi has the same input lag numbers as the x500i and I'll have a video out shortly comparing the two.

Yep on a high end Epson 4K HDR LCD projector at 120 inches Looks so damn good.