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im in the exact same boat. my 6040UB failed on me, too expensive to fix. looking for an alternative under 3k. Valerian looks the best but dang, missing out on the optical zoom and lens shift is a huge downgrade. I cant find anything else that has those options thats under 3k.
This is the way. https://preview.redd.it/qyrsjy79zbzg1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4ab20946f2c3b8c5d6dcad175bce3a735abb7059
It's surprising convienent too because you can use the same receiver, speakers, input devices, just need a HDMI switch or dual HDMI output receiver. Love it.
Yamaha RX-A780, Epson 6040UB, Akia 110" motorized screen, Elac center/right/front, NHT surrounds, Monster Cable subwoofer, Samsung 55" 4K TV (9 years old now), Nvidia Shield
I am not susceptible to RBE (have had Epson LCD projectors though for the last 12 years after previously having DLPs at the 480p and 720p days in the 2006-2012 era). I recently went from an Epson ProCinema 6040UB to a Valerion Vision Master Pro 2 and I am thrilled with the unit, its performance and the customer service I have so far received from Valerion. The loss of vertical and horizontal lens shift, lens memory and some optical zoom were all difficult decisions for me - I built my custom screen to project 110" at 16:9 and to zoom out to 127" at 21:9 aspect ratio, and to achieve this with the Valerion requires a lot more effort than the Epson - which was a simple button press and under 10 second adjustment by the motorized optics of the projector. For me, maintaining that ability to optically zoom the image from a 16:9 frame to a wider 21:9 frame for films was essential. The brightness and "pop" of the colors for the Valerion was far better than my Epson unit and the Enhanced Black Level (EBL) feature on the Valerion really made a huge difference as well. In the end, I have chosen to list my Epson for sale on eBay and have stayed with the Valerion as my projector. I did this with a coffee table side mount that requires keystoning to square the image (11' back from the screen, right next to my primary viewing location). I can't say that the longevity or reliability of the Valerion is there yet because I have owned it for less than a month at this point, but I can say that image quality, input options, Google TV convenience and true 4K @ 120hz gaming (over even 1080p @ 240hz) are game changers to me. I have the optional ceiling mount if I decide to later move the unit up to the ceiling location, but if no one wants to buy my Epson, it may just stay mounted to my ceiling while I use the lower mount on the Valerion! This attached picture is a bad representation overall, but its all I had on the phone... I corrected a few issues (like the noticable light spill outside of the projected image, the incorrect geometry of the image shown here, and the obvious mess on the floor in front of the screen...LOL). I also did not bother with the screen masks I have (behind Pennywise on the left...LOL) that mask the 21:9 screen size for 16:9 viewing if I choose to use them - frequently I don't care about the sides of the image for gaming or TV and most of my film viewing does not use them anyway!) Overall, I am very happy with my purchase and would willingly do it again at this point; even though I was dumb enough to buy a bundle which included a custom ceiling mount, 2 pairs of 3D glasses and a 135" fixed frame screen (which turns out to be too large for this space - the image would be 66" high which would take it down to just over 7" from the floor and speaker placement becomes an issue along with the image getting kind of ridiculously large in the space). The inclusion of Google TV out of the box also allowed me to ditch my RokuHD and minimized my inputs as well, so that 95% of my usage is now directly connected to the projector instead of routing through the AVR. I get all of my streaming services, access to my Plex account and files and my X-box Series X without any problems. https://preview.redd.it/5tmjjqscn8kf1.jpeg?width=8160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0992708e46aeb455a318db6ddadf747539d94dbc
Ouch. I am sorry to hear that. Sounds like at least one of the LCD panels blew out. I'm sorry that happened to you. Those 6040UB units (at least the ones that work) are great projectors. On the flipside, there are options like the Valerion and Nebula laser projectors in the $2,000 - $2,500 range that can outperform it. Good luck, I hope you catch a break!
5050 has better contrast and deeper blacks than the 11000. The LS12000 is the laser update to the 5050 but it loses 3d for better 4k pixel shifting. I had a 6040 for just shy of 2 years and replaced it last April with a 6050. Lamps are $300 through a dealer, but can be found cheaper. ~9.5 months in and I’m just over 300hrs. I can get through this lamp’s life and probably another’s before seriously considering replacing it, and by then it’ll be a JVC for me.
5050 has better contrast and deeper blacks than the 11000. The LS12000 is the laser update to the 5050 but it loses 3d for better 4k pixel shifting. I had a 6040 for just shy of 2 years and replaced it last April with a 6050. Lamps are $300 through a dealer, but can be found cheaper. ~9.5 months in and I’m just over 300hrs. I can get through this lamp’s life and probably another’s before seriously considering replacing it, and by then it’ll be a JVC for me.
I love it. It seems noticeably brighter than the 6040 in the same picture profiles, especially in 3D. I went back and forth on a used JVC NX series, but opted for the 6050 so I could have a warranty and it’s in my white-walled living room, so the contrast edge of a JVC wouldn’t have been as noticeable but the less brightness definitely would have been. I don’t think I suffer from rainbow effect, but I haven’t don’t a ton of testing. Also, the chance that I invite a friend over and they might be affected, kinda scared me off DLPs for now. Supposedly Valerion’s new reduction algorithm pretty much eliminates it. But contrast and black levels on DLP’s is only just catching up to epson (while other features far surpass like Dolby Vision support). I want a few more years of maturity on the laser long throw options and hopefully more reasonable prices too before I consider swapping.
The 20 pro would be an upgrade in terms of brightness, it does not have 2200 ANSI lumens as someone sugested. I replaced my Epson eh-tw9300 ( us model 5040ub ) 2400 ANSI lumens with the horizon 20 pro and in terms of brightness it mops the floor with the epson. The horizon 20 pro has 10 levels of brightnes and a luminance boost mode and even on lv 1 it was alrady brighter then the Epson. For now I use level 3-5 with lights on and have a good picture. What you luse is the black floor. Also using a alr screen helps a bit 😁
I'am also planning a change from epson 6050.I love my epson but gaming is likely dead now etc. BF6 cant see nuthin. My screen is 106 and planning for 150. I think its time for upgrade and seems its kinda bit better then ls1200. How about subbtitles guys? Some found it annoying from other topics.
I bought my 6050UB used with low hours back in 2021 and it’s been great. I keep getting the urge to upgrade but not convinced tech has evolved far enough. I think I’ll upgrade my tv to oled instead.
Stay away from 11000 the contrast is horrible! 6050UB no doubt! Keep it in SDR only tho if you don’t have a videoprocessor! The HDR and lack of tonemapping makes HDR look dull! The same applies to 11000! 6050UB is the choice for you
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