Pro Cinema LS12000 4K PRO-UHD Laser Projector

I think you can get an ls12000 for closer to 4k if you message dealers. I think some discount off MSRP is common. I just bought one from a private seller off AVS forum for $2,800 and couldn't be happier. It's much closer to a TV than my other projector in image quality but it's still not going to match a TV for e.g., solid HDR. I would much prefer this projector and 120-in screen to even a 77-in OLED unless I'm sitting extremely close.  Also, if you are willing to invest a little bit more and make some trade-offs, you could get an AVR screen which makes poor light control less of an issue (but there are some compromises).

NZ500 first, Sony second, Epson LS12000 third. Then the BenQ models which will struggle with black levels. I'd likely get a Valerion over the JVC models at that price point. No question, I would always go for a JVC in a good theater.

Your model looks similar to the old 8350 in the USA which was a well regarded model. The most direct replacement is the Epson 5050. Unfortunately, that uses a lamp instead of a laser for the light source, which is well out of date at this point. Sticking with LCD, these are the models which are laser light sources and are decent replacements for what you have... [https://www.projectorcentral.com/projectors.cfm?g=2&br=1500&br=4000&ar=16%3A9<g=101&mfg=Epson&oop=1#list](https://www.projectorcentral.com/projectors.cfm?g=2&br=1500&br=4000&ar=16%3A9<g=101&mfg=Epson&oop=1#list) The LS series (LS9000, 11000, 12000) are the most direct replacements to what you've been using. The fact they list 3840x2160 as a resolution is kind of meaningless as they are really 1080p models, and will accept 1080p just fine. They use pixel shifting to 'increase' the resolution, but work great with 1080p. At this point, getting the same lens quality of any projector which is similar to the TW5000, it will absolutely support 4K resolution as well. Not sure how you respond to DLP projectors. Like Valerion or XGimi, but the Valerion models and XGimi Horizon 20 models are a decent consideration as well at this time. I'd probably get a Horizon 20 Max if I were buying today. Be aware that your throw distance is likely going to require the projector to be mounted in a new location unless you go with one of the LS series models from Epson. You can double check this on the Projector Central website. Measure your screen size (diagonal) and your throw distance (screen to lens) and that is what you need to achieve in the lens of whatever you buy, which may be outside the range of what other models can deliver. [https://www.projectorcentral.com/Epson-Pro\_Cinema\_LS9000-projection-calculator-pro.htm](https://www.projectorcentral.com/Epson-Pro_Cinema_LS9000-projection-calculator-pro.htm)

Really, the Epson LS series is a solid way to go. Their QB series is a step up from there. The LS12000 is really well regarded. These Epson models are still using 1080p chips inside of them, so I'm not sure, but I believe you can turn off the upscaling altogether, and just run it native 1080p.

Anything less than a JVC would be a missed opportunity. The UST models absolutely do NOT keep up with the long throw models. The DLP chip itself still holds them back. Samsung, specifically, is not a projector manufacturer at their core and they don't know how to handle warranties or actual issues. Plus, they are just using the same DLP chip that everyone else has access to. To be clear: NO SINGLE CHIP DLP PROJECTOR HAS ELIMINATED RBE. That's important to understand. No matter what anyone says, a single chip DLP projector has the potential for RBE issues. It is not brand specific, it varies from model to model. One projector can have nearly no RBE from the same manufacturer that has almost no RBE with another model. No. Not only wouldn't a UST blow your Sony out of the water. It would be a significant downgrade. The proper answer is the JVC DLA-NZ500 - period. Maybe the Epson LS12000, but the JVC is considered one of the best overall. Native 4K 3 chip LCoS technology from THE industry leader in that market. Sony is decent, but generally people go with the JVC over the Sony most of the time. [https://www.jvc.com/usa/projectors/](https://www.jvc.com/usa/projectors/) In 2025, The Hook Up did a shootout between 6 premium home theater models. This is worth a watch... [https://youtu.be/B4\_MhHsZvkU?si=xO0-3sOlfZDBBodg](https://youtu.be/B4_MhHsZvkU?si=xO0-3sOlfZDBBodg) At the end of the day, JVC is a incredibly well rounded and reviewed product.

I'am also planning a change from epson 6050.I love my epson but gaming is likely dead now etc. BF6 cant see nuthin. My screen is 106 and planning for 150. I think its time for upgrade and seems its kinda bit better then ls1200. How about subbtitles guys? Some found it annoying from other topics.

You wanna go new tech? Go tri-laser or laser phosphor. Hisense c2 ultra or Valerion vision pro 2 or Epson Laser phosphor LS12000. You won't regret it especially for gaming. Recently I finish Clair Obscur Expedition 33 on my Hisense c2 and was absolutly cinema.

I own an LS12000 but to be honest for the price of the upgrade now I’d go for another JVC (previously had one) I got the LS12k for an absolute steal but otherwise it’s JVC for my money. I have the Epson dialled in to my liking and it has some great feature but…

I bought a second hand but new (0hrs) LS12000 for just under £3000. Have a good search or look at Epson’s own refurbished units. Alternatively, look at JVC if you happy to go elsewhere. Usually plenty of marketplace units about (like AVSforum.) If you’re full light controlled I don’t think the lumens will be a problem at all. Better contrast on JVC will compensate.

LS 12000 - I have one. In fact I also have Wharfedales (4.4 with a 5 for centre) like it look you have. Great combination.

Good to see your enjoying the PJ. 👌🏻 I too have an LS12000 (after a JVC). The one issue I had to resolve was the cyan push on HDRand LLDV converted contents An HD FURY VRRoom sorted that. Together with using movies settings and using SDR mode. The best thing I did was getting a Ugoos AM6b+ with CoreELEC. Using the V10 engine to down convert Dolby vision FEL files. This really shows off the Epson capabilities. Worth considering …..

Epson Ls12000 for the win

Don't think it is out yet.....reviewers have engineering pre-release versions....there are people with videos all over you tube....should be able to get pre-release cost ...Technically in kickstarter stage I have epson ls12000 from projector screen.com.........owner Brian is all over reddit giving recommendations....avsforums is good site too Ls12000.... love for gaming......the AWOL Vision Aetherion is noted as having better lag time (<5ms for 1080p) than I think the approx 19ms lag for the ls12000

Cyberpunk is killer too

The ls12000 is beautiful....had it not long after it hit market. Pair with floor rising screens the bomb The autheruon kooks cook for short throw a d preview seem positive for the hardware. Their cstmr srvc doest get as much love

I own one too, and while it is pixel shifted 4k, the picture is absolutely bright and beautiful and worth every penny I spent on it.

A refurb is $4200, so not too far off the mark and it's well worth it.

If you can afford an extra couple hundred bucks you could pick up an Epson LS12000 refurb.