
Valerion
VisionMaster Pro 2
Great picture/gaming, but RBE and no lens shift are dealbreakers.
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Your model looks similar to the old 8350 in the USA which was a well regarded model. The most direct replacement is the Epson 5050. Unfortunately, that uses a lamp instead of a laser for the light source, which is well out of date at this point. Sticking with LCD, these are the models which are laser light sources and are decent replacements for what you have... [https://www.projectorcentral.com/projectors.cfm?g=2&br=1500&br=4000&ar=16%3A9<g=101&mfg=Epson&oop=1#list](https://www.projectorcentral.com/projectors.cfm?g=2&br=1500&br=4000&ar=16%3A9<g=101&mfg=Epson&oop=1#list) The LS series (LS9000, 11000, 12000) are the most direct replacements to what you've been using. The fact they list 3840x2160 as a resolution is kind of meaningless as they are really 1080p models, and will accept 1080p just fine. They use pixel shifting to 'increase' the resolution, but work great with 1080p. At this point, getting the same lens quality of any projector which is similar to the TW5000, it will absolutely support 4K resolution as well. Not sure how you respond to DLP projectors. Like Valerion or XGimi, but the Valerion models and XGimi Horizon 20 models are a decent consideration as well at this time. I'd probably get a Horizon 20 Max if I were buying today. Be aware that your throw distance is likely going to require the projector to be mounted in a new location unless you go with one of the LS series models from Epson. You can double check this on the Projector Central website. Measure your screen size (diagonal) and your throw distance (screen to lens) and that is what you need to achieve in the lens of whatever you buy, which may be outside the range of what other models can deliver. [https://www.projectorcentral.com/Epson-Pro\_Cinema\_LS9000-projection-calculator-pro.htm](https://www.projectorcentral.com/Epson-Pro_Cinema_LS9000-projection-calculator-pro.htm)
Really, the Epson LS series is a solid way to go. Their QB series is a step up from there. The LS12000 is really well regarded. These Epson models are still using 1080p chips inside of them, so I'm not sure, but I believe you can turn off the upscaling altogether, and just run it native 1080p.
Anything less than a JVC would be a missed opportunity. The UST models absolutely do NOT keep up with the long throw models. The DLP chip itself still holds them back. Samsung, specifically, is not a projector manufacturer at their core and they don't know how to handle warranties or actual issues. Plus, they are just using the same DLP chip that everyone else has access to. To be clear: NO SINGLE CHIP DLP PROJECTOR HAS ELIMINATED RBE. That's important to understand. No matter what anyone says, a single chip DLP projector has the potential for RBE issues. It is not brand specific, it varies from model to model. One projector can have nearly no RBE from the same manufacturer that has almost no RBE with another model. No. Not only wouldn't a UST blow your Sony out of the water. It would be a significant downgrade. The proper answer is the JVC DLA-NZ500 - period. Maybe the Epson LS12000, but the JVC is considered one of the best overall. Native 4K 3 chip LCoS technology from THE industry leader in that market. Sony is decent, but generally people go with the JVC over the Sony most of the time. [https://www.jvc.com/usa/projectors/](https://www.jvc.com/usa/projectors/) In 2025, The Hook Up did a shootout between 6 premium home theater models. This is worth a watch... [https://youtu.be/B4\_MhHsZvkU?si=xO0-3sOlfZDBBodg](https://youtu.be/B4_MhHsZvkU?si=xO0-3sOlfZDBBodg) At the end of the day, JVC is a incredibly well rounded and reviewed product.
I'am also planning a change from epson 6050.I love my epson but gaming is likely dead now etc. BF6 cant see nuthin. My screen is 106 and planning for 150. I think its time for upgrade and seems its kinda bit better then ls1200. How about subbtitles guys? Some found it annoying from other topics.
LS 12000 - I have one. In fact I also have Wharfedales (4.4 with a 5 for centre) like it look you have. Great combination.
Good to see your enjoying the PJ. 👌🏻 I too have an LS12000 (after a JVC). The one issue I had to resolve was the cyan push on HDRand LLDV converted contents An HD FURY VRRoom sorted that. Together with using movies settings and using SDR mode. The best thing I did was getting a Ugoos AM6b+ with CoreELEC. Using the V10 engine to down convert Dolby vision FEL files. This really shows off the Epson capabilities. Worth considering …..
I can’t choose for you but can I suggest you rule out those that cause effects you can’t stand (eg judder or RBE or poor contrast.) all projectors have pros and cons it’s a question of what suits your eyes. So you need to check which causes what before you buy of course! There’s plenty of reviews on AVForums (UK) or AVSforum (US). The “Hook up” on YouTube and a great resource on Projector Central website. If your up for more bangs for you pound also consider second hand. I’ve bought two projectors of AVForums members. A JVC some years ago and recently a brand new Epson LS12000 for 2/3 the new cost. You’d be buying from enthusiasts who care and benefit from the protections that a specialist forum gives you. Hope this helps.
Don't think it is out yet.....reviewers have engineering pre-release versions....there are people with videos all over you tube....should be able to get pre-release cost ...Technically in kickstarter stage I have epson ls12000 from projector screen.com.........owner Brian is all over reddit giving recommendations....avsforums is good site too Ls12000.... love for gaming......the AWOL Vision Aetherion is noted as having better lag time (<5ms for 1080p) than I think the approx 19ms lag for the ls12000
Cyberpunk is killer too
The ls12000 is beautiful....had it not long after it hit market. Pair with floor rising screens the bomb The autheruon kooks cook for short throw a d preview seem positive for the hardware. Their cstmr srvc doest get as much love
A refurb is $4200, so not too far off the mark and it's well worth it.
If you can afford an extra couple hundred bucks you could pick up an Epson LS12000 refurb.
Epson LS9000, LS11000, and LS12000 support and operate at 4k 120hz Not a bs mode where it skips frames and only processes 60hz out of it... the LS just does 120hz at 4k Its a limitation of the current crop of DLPs and a reason I tell people to avoid the cheapest possible hardware that will produce a 4k picture LCOS produces a better picture and the newer LCOS projectors DO 120hz but my understanding is there is smearing and additional lag though they handle 60hz just fine with moderate lag in general. I have a Sony LCOS and game on it but it doesnt do 120hz 3LCD might be your ticket here. Its got about the fastest stable running 120hz 4k mode
If you can get an epson LS series under $3k, the 9000, 11000, and 12000 all do true 4k 120hz if your GPU can push that hard. It's going to take an Nvidia 3080, 4080, or better even really just to get there. None of the projectors using the current .47" DMD have that feature, hardware does not support it. Not sure about the newer .65" DMD that BenQ is using though.
Thats some cherry picked ass data and lensed viewpoint but OK Didn't the LS10000 come out ten years ago? 2016 https://epson.com/For-Home/Projectors/Pro-Cinema/PowerLite-Pro-Cinema-LS10000-3LCD-Reflective-Laser-4K-Enhancement/p/V11H488020KB Just because they dont shit can their old projectors doesnt make their tech "Woefully behind" Your lineup you presented doesnt even list all of Epson's current projectors and focuses on home and home office models. The LS11000 is not the highest projector in the laser series, nor is it the lowest. There is a cheaper LS9000 and a more expensive LS12000, which the picture above is from. Your response is very emotional as well. Epson makes an LS9000 these days, it exists ya know. The LS11000 can also be had for just over $3,000 right now https://www.projectorscreen.com/products/epson-ls11000-4k-laser-projector-with-2500-lumens-white-manufactured-refurbished Straight Franzia Talk and nothing more from you 🧃🎒
IMHO the LS12000 is great if you can get it under the US msrp. If you liked your old epson you wont be disappointed. I came from a 3800 and I have a Sony LCOS upstairs, vw295es. The Sony is sharper and more capable but cant throw nearly the lumens, maybe like 40% of the light. For me the LS12k was the answer to a partially light controlled room where I needed lumens for daytime and contrast for night time. Solid upgrade from the 3800 all around too. Epson has 4 way image shifting now so there is not an optical advantage to having single chip DMD any more, save for those who cant perform a panel alignment. Here is the darkstar scene from Maverick at 150" on an elitescreen pull down. Im at about 12 or 13ft too https://preview.redd.it/x37j6uo4filg1.jpeg?width=3600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=63ee636939c57a2ed27757f345d902777fcadb04

Valerion
VisionMaster Pro 2
Great picture/gaming, but RBE and no lens shift are dealbreakers.

Epson
Home Cinema 5050UB (V11H930020)
Great value with huge lens shift, but outdated lamp tech and poor HDR.
Epson
Pro Cinema LS12000 4K PRO-UHD Laser Projector
Superb 4K/120Hz gaming and no RBE, but requires calibration.

BenQ
W1070
Budget king, durable with good image, but RBE can be distracting.

BenQ
HT2060
Excellent 1080p contrast and quiet gaming, but low brightness for big screens.

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