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That Sony is a 28k projector so if you can get it in good shape with low hours for that price that’s a pretty good deal. I recently did a home theater and was between the QB1000 and the QL3000 and went with the QL3000 for the brightness and sharp image. Iv heard that comparatively epsons have better image quality to their tiered counterparts but that Sony projector is a tier or two above the qb1000. One thing to consider tho is the Epsons are a lot better for gaming so if that’s a big usage then definitly not any JVCs. The Sony is decent but doesn’t support 4k 120
You’re going to want the EPSON QB1000 for ambient light sports watching. It’s the brightest projector in your price point by far. Over 1000-1500 lumens brighter than the Sony or JVCs at that price. I was considering the QB1000 but sprang for the QL3000 recently and am in love with it but spent a lot of time demoing the QB1000 and you won’t be disappointed
That’s why I went with the QL3000. I have 10 people in my theater now watching football with the lights on and snacks/drinks and it looks just as good as a tv. Cant be beat
That makes it a lot more clear then. Personally, I would say for **most "normal" people**, you would hit that point around the **$6000** mark. I'm specifically thinking of two projectors: **Epson LS12000 and JVC NZ5000**: https://www.projectorcentral.com/Epson-Pro_Cinema_LS12000.htm https://www.projectorcentral.com/JVC-NZ500-Projector-Review.htm That is the point where you are getting most of the features that are relevant to either of these brands when it comes to home theater. And when you pay more than this, you're spending multiple thousands of dollars in order to get relatively smaller brightness bumps or more esoteric features. It's also worth noting that you don't actually need to pay $6K for these projectors. There's discount to be had when you know where to look. The real price is closer to around $5K. Ask around with a few different Epson/JVC dealers. I'd recommend starting with AV Science. Actually call them and talk to them. Oversimplifying a bit here, but I would go with the JVC if you primarily care about movies, have a fully light controlled room, ***and*** are blacking out the areas around the screen. If you're using the projector for more of a mix of content (including gaming), and the room is mostly light controlled, but not perfect, then I would go with the Epson. And with either of these projectors, I probably wouldn't recommend going above ~140" at more in screen size. There is another point where I would say **diminishing returns hit for enthusiasts.** And that is at around **$17K for the Epson QL3000 or JVC NZ800**: https://www.projectorcentral.com/Epson-QL3000B.htm https://www.projectorcentral.com/JVC-DLA-NZ800.htm With the JVC, you're getting 120Hz support that the cheaper JVCs do not have and more brightness without sacrificing on black levels. The Epson QL3000 is a bit more of an odd esoteric choice. It's a monster light cannon that can output 6000 lumens (more like 5000 lumens when in a color accurate mode). This allows you to either use a crazy large screen (if you need to go above 150"). Or it allows you to go for a super bright 200-300 nit image. I've seen the JVC NZ800 and Epson QL3000 played side-by-side. And while I fully accept that the JVC has deeper black levels and arguably more accurate color, the Epson's crazy brightness just pops way more for HDR content. I subjectively prefer the image from the Epson on the majority of content. But if your goal is reference level accuracy, then the JVC will get you closer to that. And again, you shouldn't need to pay sticker price for these either. You can save a couple thousand dollars by shopping around. Once you go above these two projectors, there are models above them (JVC NZ900 and Epson QL7000). However, those models cost ~$15K more and are not substantially better IMO. The next meaningful set up IMO, would be spending over $60K for a Christie, Barco, or Sony GTZ-380.
> I’m thinking a non-retractable, sound transparent screen that’s one piece, and a standard throw projector. Not sure about screen size. > I have 10’ to work with, maybe 12’ width if I take out a closet. Room is 16’ length, but I do have rear surrounds and rear subs that need some room. Probably 40-50 FOV is good. If you want an acoustically transparent screen, that means that the speakers will be behind the screen. **You need to determine how much space you will need behind the screen.** Everything flows together, everything is connected. You have 16ft of depth to work with. The seating should ideally be at least 3ft away from the back wall. You can kinda fudge it with 2ft and some compromises. So your viewing distance from the seats to screen will be 13ft minus however much distance you need behind the screen. Will that be 1ft? 2ft? More? That's all going to depend on what type of LCR speakers you use and what type of screen you use. For example, you can use slim LCRs like the on-wall Arendal 1961 Monitors or 1610 Slim 8s: https://store.arendalsound.com/product/1961-monitor/ https://store.arendalsound.com/product/1610-slim-8/ And pair them with a woven acoustically transparent screen that doesn't require any space between the speaker and the screen. In that case, you really only need about 8 inches between the front wall and the screen. **This will give you a pretty nice ~12ft viewing distance.** Or on the other hand, you can use much deeper speakers like the 21" deep Power Sound Audio MTM210K and a perforated screen that requires 12" between the speaker and the screen. In that case, you need to have the screen offset from the front wall by nearly 3ft. This gives you a tighter 10ft viewing distance. Or 11ft if you compromise a bit and push the seating closer to the wall. And of course, there are all the combinations in-between those. But say for argument sake, you end up with a ~12ft viewing distance. If you're shooting for a 45 degree FOV, then that means you will want a ~137" screen. That screen would be 119" wide. That's just shy of 10ft wide. The issue is that any sort of bezel would make that screen wider than 10ft. I think **the largest screen you would be able to reasonably fit without demolishing the closet would be ~132".** At 12ft away, this gives you a **FOV of 43.6 degrees.**
Honestly there a is alot that goes in projection. First step is the screen that’s most important part. I would do SI screen anti reflective in this space. You will also need to put power for your electric drop down screen. Also where do you want the remote to go to drop down the screen? “no it’s not wireless” First step here talk to electrician or unless you are one. get power plugs in ceiling. Or I would do recess in ceiling projector screen. But will require construction to be done. And will look. Much cleaner. But for cost minimum 7k-15k if you want quality and aesthetic pleasing. This is screen alone…. Sure you can get pull down hand one like we had in school. But they are cheap for a reason and the image will be horrible. “You be better off with a TV in this case. The projector you will need a hdmi run or balun. Also depends where your beams cross will need to cut drywall and repair after the fact. Also another power plug. Also would run Ethernet here same time.but I would do epson QB1000 or QL3000 if you want your windows open for daylight. If you want quality. Lastly what are you doing for sound? Unless you want to use your head phones? But that be horrible experience if you want to relax for the night. If the budget is under 3k? it’s just not possible and would just recommend a tv and just mount it above your computer. Would be a better option. But if you wish to do it right it is possible. And would look great. And give you a list to get.
Had the 11000, now have the ql3000. The QL blows every aspect out of the water. Obviously soooooo much brighter (never seen a nice projector this bright in my life), crisper, the motion is sooooooooo much better, I can watch HDR (I don't have full light control, so HDR on the 11000 is very hard for me. IF you have the budget for the QL3000 please go it. You will not be disappointed. I have seen the QL3000 in a true side by side against the Sony 5000 and 6000, and this thing mopped the floor of both Sony's.
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