
Valerion
VisionMaster Pro 2
Great picture, good gaming, but pronounced RBE and no lens shift.

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We ended up getting the Hisense C2 Pro! Not quite up to the ultra but close enough. Set it up today and are extremely happy with it. However, looking on Amazon again it appears the ultra and the pro are the same price and $300 cheaper then what we bought it for earlier this week. Sooooo we may do a return and purchase an ultra tomorrow.
worth noting some ppl report units with unbearable whiny noise issue, my unit included
How's the dimming in the pitch dark room, i.e. lowering laser luminance setting to zero, would the screen get dark or just perceivable 25% lower from the brightest setting? Had this issue with C2 pro where can't get brightness down considerably
Picked up the Hisense C2 Pro and quickly realized it's not going to work for my setup. The placement requirements are too rigid. I need something with actual lens shift or more forgiving positioning options. Requirements: * Flexible placement * Dolby Vision and HDR support * Bright enough for a living room with ambient light * Will be paired with an existing 5.2.4 audio system and Nvidia Shield. Maybe 5.0.4 if in an apartment * No dedicated screen initially. I expect to move 2-3 times in the next 5 years, so will probably use the wall (unless it is really bad and there is simple ways to use and pack a good screen)? * Budget is flexible. This is a long-term investment, so I'm willing to spend for quality I'm moving away from traditional TVs specifically for the portability factor and I don't want to deal with mounting and risk breaking them whenever I move, so something that doesn't require perfect positioning every time would be ideal. What projectors would you recommend that check these boxes?
I have a Hisense C2 pro. Haven't tried gaming on it but according to reviews, delay is very minimal. By far good enough for story driven, probably also for at least light to medium competitive. I have a gray screen as well. I'd say it gives a nice edge for contrast and the C2 looks beautiful on it. If you're going for a projector with at least 2500 ansi and you have to contend with some ambient light, a gray screen is a good option. As far as seating distance to screen size, I'd say you're a bit on the edge. I sit 300cm away from the screen which is 90' and that thing is huuuuge. But it does give the cinema effect, it doesn't feel like a bigass tv. So expect like a big and bold, cinematic viewing/gaming experience. Definitely recommend the C2 line. Only issue with it is the rainbow effect (rbe) which can be a bitch if you're part of the 40% of people who see it. But afaik the Valerions and Nexigos also suffer the rbe. Gray screens mitigate this to a degree but definitely still noticeable. If you want smth below 2000€, the BenQ W2720i is a price-to-performance monster. Since it's LED not laser, you should also get zero rbe, and it's factory color calibrated. A part of me wishes I'd gone for the BenQ tbh. But it has no DV, which matters a bit if you watch a lot of Netflix or other HDR content with DV. It does have HDR10+ tho, I think.
hisense c2, or hisense m2 (cheaper). built in swivel stand and good speakers lots do. the hicense c2 is a good higher end offering.its very quite fan, good inbuilt speaker, swivel stand that lets you easily point it at the ceiling. also supports low latency 120hz gaming if you want to do some gaming as well. otherwise the benq gv50 is a cheaper option that also supports pointing at the ceiling (no where near as good as the hicense though. much dimmer) but you could also consider xreal glasses? depends if you watch alone or with someone
seems to mainly be brightness and zoom. the m2 pro is (made of plastic), 1300ansi lumens with 1.3x optical and digital zoom. the c2 (made of plastic) is 2000ansi lumens with digital zoom only the c2 pro (made of metal) is 2600ansi lumens with 1.6x optical and digital zoom. and the c2 ultra (made of metal) is 3000ansi lumens with 1.6x optical zoom and digital zoom (it also apparently has a built in sub woofer). so you could probably watch at daytime with window open (assuming there isnt too much light hitting your ceiling). honestly even the base m2 pro would probably be great. Im personally planning to just buy the base m2 pro when they go on sale. its the one I know the most about (the quite 30db fan, and 120hz interest me).
hisense c2, or hisense m2 (cheaper). built in swivel stand and good speakers lots do. the hicense c2 is a good higher end offering.its very quite fan, good inbuilt speaker, swivel stand that lets you easily point it at the ceiling. also supports low latency 120hz gaming if you want to do some gaming as well. otherwise the benq gv50 is a cheaper option that also supports pointing at the ceiling (no where near as good as the hicense though. much dimmer) but you could also consider xreal glasses? depends if you watch alone or with someone
I recommend the Hisense C2 Pro. I bought it a month ago and I couldn't be happier. It's a wonder
Hisense C2 Pro. A fantastic, top-of-the-line projector. Incredible image and excellent black levels. 2600 lumens and Dolby Vision + HDR10 and HDR10 Plus. You won't go wrong with this choice.

Valerion
VisionMaster Pro 2
Great picture, good gaming, but pronounced RBE and no lens shift.

Epson
Home Cinema 5050UB (V11H930020)
Best value, flexible lens shift, but dated tech, poor HDR.
Epson
Pro Cinema LS12000 4K PRO-UHD Laser Projector
Great 4K/120Hz gaming, no RBE, but needs calibration.

JVC
DLA-RS1200 / DLA-NZ500
Unmatched black levels for movies, poor for gaming.

BenQ
HT2060
Great 1080p gaming, deep blacks, but low brightness.

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Valerion - VisionMaster Pro 2
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Epson - Pro Cinema LS12000 4K PRO-UHD Laser Projector

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Hisense - Laser TV PX3-PRO

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Anker - NEBULA X1 4K Triple Laser Projector (D2351)

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Anker - NEBULA X1 4K Triple Laser Projector (D2351)

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JMGO - PicoFlix