Hisense - Vidda C2 Ultra

Hisense C2 Ultra all the way. I bought one last week and it's amazing. Used it outdoors for movie night with the kids and it was still amazing. Watch the video review from Tom's guides.

You can get a Hisense C2 or the Nexigo Trivision Ultra and go with a traditional long throw setup. Placement of the projector needs to be pretty exacting. Then use a standard fixed frame screen in white or grey and call it done. Add a sound system and it's all together for under $3,000. $2,000 if you are careful in your shopping.

You will need to consider audio in the room as projectors don't do audio really well. Many lifestyle laser projectors don't have any optical zoom, which will limit your size/placement options. For example, the Nexigo Trivision Ultra has a fixed 1.27:1 lens. For a 92" diagonal, the lens much be 8.5 feet from the screen. [https://www.projectorcentral.com/NexiGo-TriVision\_Ultra-projection-calculator-pro.htm](https://www.projectorcentral.com/NexiGo-TriVision_Ultra-projection-calculator-pro.htm) The Hisense C2 has a .9-1.5:1 optical zoom lens. This gives you a ton more flexibility in placement so you can get a 92" screen or a 100" screen or even a 110" screen from the back of the room using optical zoom. [https://www.projectorcentral.com/Hisense-C2\_Ultra-projection-calculator-pro.htm#calc](https://www.projectorcentral.com/Hisense-C2_Ultra-projection-calculator-pro.htm#calc) The lens of these projectors needs to be aligned to the top edge of the screen. These models do have HDMI-ARC to backfeed audio to a sound bar or surround sound receiver. But, speakers need to be fully thought out prior to getting too much finished.

I know you’re on a budget but I would try and get an open box C2 ultra. It’s significantly better than those.

Having said this though and seeing my friends c2 ultra in person. It looks incredible. And I would have guessed true 4k if I hadn’t read about it. Picture quality is nuts.

I mean sure but I got an open box C2 ultra for 2400$ CAD open box. And the pro2 is 4300$ I do think the Pro 2 is slightly better (but they are damn close on the whole) but that’s not worth 2000$ for me

I’ve been playing Cyberpunk 2077 on a Hisense C2 ultra on a 135” screen mostly at night and it’s pretty fucking amazing. Plus I have a paradigm 5.1 speaker setup with an AVR. It blows my mind every-time I start playing. I also play RL on it and honestly it’s not bad. I don’t really notice the input lag.

Feel free to join us at /r/HisenseC2Projector The C2 ultra is pretty good overall, picture is nice and bright. Native contrast is not great but that's it's main downfall. I am currently experiencing light bleed with mine, which Hisense says is normal, so if you decide on the ultra be sure to get a warranty through the retailer

Just my plain wall, I have the C2 Ultra now, and tbh, it's actually not very good at auto keystoning compared to the C1 for some reason

Just get nexigo ap mk2 with alr screen. Other ust to consider such as epson ls650, formovie theatre 2, xiaomi c2, hisense pl1. They all have low or no rbe / speckle issues. Valerion dimming ebl doesn't activate with subtitles, no iris and have speckle issues.

Hisense C2 Ultra and upcoming C3 are both cheaper options. The preliminary reviews for C3 said it has a similar EBL function. I don’t see Hisense pricing C3 at $ 2999.

I just bought a Hisense C2 Ultra for about $2500 and I project it on my wall. Works great so far. Have it hooked up to a Bose soundbar and sub woofer.

I just purchased one of these 2 weeks ago, so far I think it looks amazing, however I haven’t used another projector to compare it with. I do agree the software sucks but I just plugged in an Apple TV hub, problem solved.

Just got this. Unfortunately movies look like soap operas. Very weird accelerated motions even in “movie” smoothing most. With smoothing off it’s very laggy. I also have xiaomi mi projector 2 pro and it shows movies alright. But this Hisense one is completely unwatchable. I guess I’ll only use it for gaming

I ultimately bit the bullet, cancelled trivision order and went with Hisense c2 ultra. It performs amazingly well even in my non-light controlled living room. The only downside of course is that it’s 2x the cost of nexigo. Given our tariff war with china, it’s unlikely these projectors will get cheaper

It's not loud, no. You'd have to be seated very close to it to hear its light fan whirl at all.

Have you look at the Hisense c2 ultra? Perfect for gaming (first Xbox certified proj.) with a low latency and outstanding skin tone. I've got it since 5 months and I couldn't be happier

I've got the Hisense C2 ultra for 6 months for gaming and movies. Can't be happier!

Hisense c2 ultra. Can’t go wrong with it!!!

Well, have you look at the C2 ultra? Perfect for gaming and great for movies

Hey TechNick that is not really a good suggestion. It would be a major step down in quality. The C2 Ultra has better color due to triple laser, better HDR management, better contrast thanks to strong tone mapping, fluid motion due to MEMC, support for Dolby Vision, is a lot quieter as well. I’ve read plenty of reviews of the x3100 many consider rather load and it gets really hot apparently.

Neither does the C2 Ultra if you use the right screen or just matte paint on the wall. Funny how you are quick to call BS but don’t bring any strong arguments to prove the contrary to my claim.

Yes I did, last weekend I went to a store that has many lined up in a showroom and I was able to test many side by side. I had a TK710 that was defective and after 3 unsuccessful RMA’s I decided to get my money back. Which means now I have to find a new projector. The C2 was WAY more convincing than any other product. With the correct screen or type of wall, triple laser is as close you’ll get to OLED like color quality. Color gamut coverage, contrast level, it’s beating every BenQ product to be honest.

I received the valerian visionmaster pro2 today and the light bleed was terrible. There's a high pitch buzzing noise that drove me mad . I dont have alr screens just a 100 inch matt white screen. I didn't like the picture quality of the valerian on my screen. The black levels on my jmgo n1s 4k on the same screen was better Adjusting dbl on the valerian did nothing.made no difference. The nebula x1 and hisense c2 ultra worked better on my setup but where too noisy My n1s4k is fantastic and on my screen had better black levels than the valerian but not the x1 . The n1s 4k is the most quietest projector I've owned. My valerian has been boxed back up for return .that buzzing noise drove me mad but the valerian did have a really sharp picture Maybe I would have needed a £3000 screen to make the most of the valerian but on my screen I enjoyed the jmgo n1s 4k more .a lot more. Don't believe the hype on these money grabbing sponsored youtube videos. The jmgo n1s is the real deal .I'm waiting on my delivery of the xgimi Horizon 20 pro next. Fingers crossed 🤞

Hi, Really interesterd in your feedback too. I actually own a Xgimi Horizon Pro (my eighth projector but the first 4K PJ at home). Coming from JVC (X30 in France) and then BenQ W1120 (my two last 1080p PJ), I wanted to taste the 4K. I knew that its contrast is weak but this Xgimi has other strenghts. Now, I'm torned between changing again for a new PJ or getting a new big TV like TCL 98" or Hisense 100". If I stand with projectors, it won't be a laser one because 1/ the speckle 2/ the rainbow effects... I'm sensitive to the RBE and see a lot of these with laser projectors. I've been to a demo of the Hisense C2 Ultra and I got an headache after half an hour in addition to the RBE. So I think these kind of projectors are definitely not for me. I've seen Ekki Schmitt's review (cine4home.de) of the BenQ W2720i on youtube and it seems to be a very good choice with accurate colors. The only backdraw should be the brigthness. With 1300 to 1500 lumens after calibration, you are limited to a 3 meters width screen (which is already nice). Because of the dlp chip used in this BenQ (0.47), the contrast is not as good as with a 0.65 chip but Ekki Schmitt said in his review that the dynamic contrast was about 3000:1 ratio without "pumping". So it should be very usable. If it's true, this BenQ could be a bargain. Very excited to read your feedback about it...

Absolutely love our Pro2s. They are beasts of light output and have exceptional contrast. Amazing cinema experience and gaming is very nice. Yeah you’re limited to 60hz 4K but it’s rare to get games much over that at 4K and good settings these days anyways. I know the c2 ultra is also good for gaming and has comparable cinema performance, but its software leaves a little to be desired for me.

I’d save up and get either a highsense c2 ultra, or a valerian pro 2. The valerian being more expensive but has slightly lower input lag and is GoogleTV based, while the highsense has a custom OS. Both have similar picture quality and solid reviews for gaming. I love my Valerion and may buy a C2 for the bedroom. So really can’t go wrong with either!

The Valerions, highsense C2 Ultra, and nexigo trivision ultra are the three I narrowed my search down to about 4 months ago. All 3 have great picture, low input lag, handle 4K well, etc. I wound up with 3 Valerion Pro 2s, as I really am impressed with them across the above stats, aesthetics, and software, but you’d likely be fine with any of them. We use ours for heavy gaming and as a main theater projector for movies etc. Won’t ever go back to a TV. All laser projectors will need a good screen, I’d recommend something with a little bit of texture, possibly woven to reduce some speckle if you’re sensitive to it.

Benqs scored pretty low at the time I was buying. I haven’t looked at the 100s. This review really helped me at the time get a good cross section of the lifestyle projectors. https://youtu.be/ClIboELoz74 One thing to note is that the Highsense did make some strides since this review with recent firmware updates, but I’m not a fan of their software/UI. The Valerions using Google TV was a big plus for me, it’s well maintained and it works.

I think its iffy to be honest. I love my projector, but there are definitely some drawbacks. Ambient light and placement are the real challenges you'll be navigating. Can you darken your room? If not, go TV. What's the space you'll be using it like? Have a dedicated setup or will you need to work around existing furniture? If you use a screen on a tripod, you'll inevitably be dealing with some issues getting the projector square with the screen. If you're fine using a lifestyle projector and throwing it on a blank wall, it's easier but you will sacrifice some clarity and color (with a pro of GREAT movability). If you want a mounted screen (ceiling or wall) then you'll likely need to think through wall or ceiling mounting the projector too. I love the lifestyle projectors as I can easily camp out with movies, take it to a friends for "the big game", or point it at the ceiling and play games from bed while laying on my back. Budget friendly options would be Highsense C2 Ultra, a lower budget Valerion, or a Nexigo Trivision Ultra. Im not an expert on UST options, but I'm sure someone can chime in with a few options. Pros for a TV: It's easy and you wont have to worry about light in the room. Cons: TV is now the focal point in the room. One thing to consider on "movie night", how are you about sound?

I got the Vidaa/Hisense C2 Ultra for $1500. I think the C3 Ultra is coming out soon though. Should be a small price bump. Xgimi Ultra Max was around $2000. The Chinese version has an extra 2.1 HDMI port.

Yeah luckily my parents are in China for vacation. They picked up a Hisense C2 Ultra for me for $1500 CAD.

Great review. I, too, have the C2 Ultra and cannot say enough about its greatness. I am also delighted with [Projectorscreen.com](http://Projectorscreen.com), as they helped me find 3D glasses and a mount. However, I went with a different but similar option for the glasses.

r/budgetprojectors It's pretty commonly accepted here that you're looking to drop $1000 USD at least for a new 1080p projector but if you're looking spend even less budgetprojectors should be able to help you. 50% off 4500€ should easily accommodate something like a Hisense C2 Ultra and a basic 100" screen. 75% off 4500€ would bring you down to a BenQ HT2060 and a basic 100" screen. What are you looking for in a projector? Resolution? Do you need an ultra short throw or is there space to accomodate a short or even standard throw projector?

I genuinely don't often write reviews mainly because most of the products I buy already have 10,000 others for people to sort through. In this case, however, I am more than happy too because how pleased I have been not only with the projector itself but the folks at ProjectorScreen as well! I admit that I was really dubious at first trusting a large investment into a company I'd never heard of. For those things I will usually go to a big box store. It made it especially intimidating when this thing would be shipped to me instead of picked up in person. The guys I chatted with were so incredibly patient and kind with my many questions (and there were many). Even after I bought it and was having second thoughts, they were extremely kind and talked me through it, not wanting to pressure me in any way but I could tell genuinely wanted the best for me. Definitely a hard thing to find nowadays. The projector itself is an absolute dream. I am not a tech novice, given a few minutes of research, I can pretty well understand the jargon involved with most things. But, I am also not a projector/visual/audio expert. I spent hours scouring posts on Reddit seeing things from people who were satisfied with a $50 projector off Temu vs people who insisted that spending anything less than $20,000 on a projector was a waste of time and money. Hard to tell what's really "good" with a balance like that. My list was simple. I don't like making big purchases often so whatever I got I wanted it to be future proof which, for me, meant 4K, HDR10+, and Dolby Vision. A lot of people have stated that you'll either get equipment that claims it can do these things or it's impossible for such things to be conveyed on a projector. After more digging I discovered it is possible but will never be perfect because projectors will always have ambient light and the screen itself will never show "true" black. If these things are really important to you then yes, an OLED tv is probably a better call. But, I knew I wanted a projector so I was willing to be okay with "not perfect." I was on the fence about the new Xgimi and (like many of you have probably seen) the Valerion Kickstarter. After seeing comparisons with the C2 and the Xgimi, it was clear the C2 was the better option. As for the Valerion, I admit I was really tempted especially from what they were claiming. However, I have known several friends who have been let down by "tried and true" kickstarters before. Some never got their products while others received them only to discover the claims made weren't true and had to wait in a queue of hundreds of other disappointed people to resolve it (which never happened). Granted, I could be wrong. It could have been the deal of the century and to the lucky people who locked in, more power to them. For me, I preferred having a unit from a reputable company that has had years of a good track record and if something went wrong, I would have support to fix it. Also, doing more digging, there is likely a software/firmware update coming that will make the C2 on par with the claims made from the kickstarter group. But even without it, I have been extremely pleased. Which leads this already long review to the actual....review. Fresh out of the box, the C2 Ultra is stunning. It's sleek and much smaller than I anticipated. I didn't need a "lifestyle" projector as I planned on mounting it to my ceiling and connecting it to my surround sound but, testing the attached speaker made me think how great and easy it would be to take outside in the summer! As for setting it up, I bought a simple mount on Amazon to attach to my ceiling and it was easy to install. I wish I had an expert by my side to help me figure out where to mount it. I know it's best for the image quality not to use keystone but I couldn't get the angle exactly perfect. That being said, the auto adjustments were amazing. I thought I would have to manually change a lot but the sensors found the edges of the screen perfect and the focus was super sharp. The image itself literally made my jaw drop. I had been using an HD Epson for nearly 10 years and was always impressed with its quality. But, the second the image popped on screen, it was like I hadn't experienced color before. Imagine Dorothy walking out of her black and white house into the Technicolor land of Oz. Seriously, the colors were so deep and pure, I couldn't look away and all I was staring at was the menu. :) I rushed to turn on Planet Earth in 4K Dolby Vision and was completely blown away. All the boxes and wires around me were forgotten as I stood and watched an entire episode. Seriously....so good. I have a cheap retractable $200 Amazon screen and even the contrast on that was amazing. The screen is white but when the scenes were dark, I would have sworn they were truly black. I now wish I could afford a screen that can do this projector justice! Next thing to save for I suppose. As far as the UI goes, it's nice and intuitive. I played around with it for a bit just to know what was available. I connect a 4K Apple TV to my normal setup but I would feel very comfortable using the VIDAA if I wanted to use it more portably. The remote is nice and solid and I was surprised to find even controls my Apple TV if I want to use both. The fan is VERY quiet and I had to remind myself it was even there to begin with. Not that my Epson was loud but especially when watching things like A Quiet Place, the silence stands out more without distraction. I genuinely cannot say enough good things about this product but, as someone who reads reviews I do like to know they're genuine and a sign of that are the things that could be improved. There aren't many and I hope software update fixes a lot of them. 1) Sometimes the brightness/luminescence is overpowering. It will change from night to day in a movie and I will have to squint my eyes to adjust. I mean...it's amazing because that's one of the faults of projectors is being too dim but, it may have overshot a bit. I am still playing around with settings and could be missing something but I'm hoping for an update that senses how much light is reflected back and adjusts it to a consistent level. There is a brightness control on the remote but when you press it, it says "not available" 2) This is a new product so the reviews and technical advice is low right now but I want/need someone to walk through all the settings and let me know which is best for specific scenarios. It feels like when you change one setting, it can affect another so there is so much trial and error that it's hard to know what to change. An in-depth how to video would be amazing for this device so I know all it's capable of and how to change things to fit my needs. 3) Similar to my last comment, it would be nice if there was a hand-holding set up feature similar to the one on Denon Receivers where it asks questions about your setup and takes you through it step by step. I had real problems with the eARC being activated when it didn't need to be and the video wouldn't show up etc. I was able to fix it but novices might get frustrated when simple things like plugging in an HDMI doesn't always work. 4) Other things are so minor that it's hardly worth mentioning. I would love it if the projector could be detached from the gimball/speaker so it's not so large hanging from the ceiling but...many people will love that feature more than won't so...I'm probably in the minority. :) All in all, I am very pleased with this purchase and look forward to many years of movies/tv with it. If you are on the fence, I guarantee (unless you're in the $20,000 crowd) you will love the picture quality you will get from this and hopefully with added software/firmware updates an already great projector will make it even better. Last shoutout to the ProjectorScreen team. Thanks for your patience and answering 10,000 questions as you were with me every step of the way. Tell your boss you deserve a raise. ;-) https://preview.redd.it/nu6ozjotzc6e1.png?width=415&format=png&auto=webp&s=06fb3f05f50fac94919ded21a11419edc47c2f6d

I'm using the C2 ultra with my pro. It's excellent

I wouldn't say minimal

I had to return mine due to the speckle and rainbow effect.

An ALR screen makes speckle 10 times worse so I would never use ALR with a triple laser projector. Rainbow effect is subjective, some people are prone to seeing it than others

Just get c2 ultra, valerion vision pro 2 or nexigo tri vision ultra. Avoid other options Avoid comparing the specs in “paper” Use thehookup source material as your main source.

I did go with this combination. There is noticeable speckle unfortunately, although it is not a deal breaker for me personally.

This is my situation.....I'm about 14 feet away and fill a 120 inch screen with the hisense c2 ultra....however at 14 feet the screen is closer to 150 inches and it has to use digital zoom etc to fit the screen but aren't we losing quality this way?? For example if I sit the c2 ultra about 8 feet away I get the natural 120" and technically wouldn't it be brighter and better? I don't want to use an expensive projector with cut down quality ifni need to use digital zoom to fit the screen ?

Think about it logically Say it can produce a 120" screen from 8ft away without any digital zoom and maximum brightness If you move it to 14 feet and use digital zoom to have the 120" the projector is less bright and will have less contrast because the further away it is the further th laser needs to cast The c2 ultra is a short to mid range cast imo I've had the c2 ultra for just under a week now and blown away with it but just wanted to see if I should ceiling mount it much closer rather than have it wall mounted 14ft away and zoomed in

If you need the swiveling 360 possibilities, and arent mounting it.. the c2 ultra is fantastic. Buuut for me the rainbow effect on mine can drive me nuts depending on the content. Sometimes it's all I see, and other times it's non-existent, and like everything else on it, I can't figure out why.. so the xgimi horizon s max, might be better if rainbow effect drives you nuts. But ya lose out on some things... If ya don't need the 360 gimbal stuff, or ya just want to dish out extra money on an add on gimbal, the valerions are a good bet. If I had $5000 lying around I would got the top of the line valerion... but I didn't have the extra $2,500 for 15% better images. The c2 is solid in image quality and sound. I use the built in speaker more than my AVR because it doesn't drive everyone in the house insane, and its more than adequate. So if ya don't have a great sound system where you'll use it, thats something to consider. I'm sure the valerions are OK too. C2s seemingly have a high probability of having really annoying light bleed though... (mine is awful, I've seen one with worse, and more than a few that are about the same. But can be fixed with some tape and a card.. ) I have a love hate with my c2.. some times I'm in aw by it, and other times I wanna throw it out the window, but its almost all software related issues.. like on tvs, where one setting disables another and doesn't say which one, and its a never ending quest to figure it out. (Just disable everything and youre usually good).

Have you considered the c2 ultra? I finally took the plunge and have one arriving tomorrow. I was on the fence between the horizon s max, the c2, and pro 2. The s max stopped being on sale (went back to $1900 instead of $1600), dramatically decreasing the value benefit. Then it became a shoot out between the c2 and pro2.. and while from a purely picture quality standpoint the pro 2 is probably better.. I wasn't sure if was gonna be $500 better. On top of that, I plan on actually moving it around, and taking it places, so and the c2 won out on those features, with the built in gimbal and slightly better sound capabilities. It also just seemed easier to carry around in general. One review i saw on the pro2, pointed out that it's just a big square with really no clear way of holding it/moving it around.. not that you cant, but there's no handles or anything, so it's just kinda upto you to decide. And the little flappy stand under it.. I dunno about that. The gimbal approach just seemed much better to me, without having to spend another $150 for one.

I was in the same boat looking for something smooth in my gaming room. It was between the horizon 20 or the c2 ultra. After all my digging and research I settled with the c2 ultra. It’s built for xbox so the input lag is minimal and it isn’t iso lumens which means the dark points and contrast isn’t toned out by the actual blast of brightness. I do have a completely isolated dark room with no ambient light so if you don’t have that I’d recommend the horizon as it does better with ambient light. Both great picks but the specs and design of the c2 ultra for your wish list is what I’d go with

I just bought this... So far I've not set up the room so no screen. But even with curtains open and projecting onto Magnolia paint with MANY imperfections on the wall, I was really pleasantly surprised at how legible the screen is. Also, I'll be getting a proper speaker setup, but honestly, the sound that came from the projector was surprisingly good (the Ultra includes a sub which would be a nice bonus for you, but I only bought for the extra brightness over the Pro as I'll have dedicated speakers). With everything I wanted/needed (3D, motorised optical zoom and focus, etc.) I only had a choice of a few projectors and this is the one I chose. Others were either more expensive with no real added benefit, or were compromising on some features I needed. I can't wait to see it when I have an ideal setup, but even without that, it's pretty damn good! I will say I have 0 experience with projectors so nothing to compare it to, but I did do a lot of research and my room is currently far from ideal!

Yeah, I'm really impressed with it. You won't be disappointed with the sound either. It somehow sounds like it's coming from the screen. I'm about to spend loads on surround sound and I'm sure I'll notice the difference, but it definitely seems a step up from TV sound, somehow! Make sure to get the Ultra model though.

I'm a casual gamer, but I did buy it partly with that in mind. But I've only just bought it and not actually using it yet beyond a couple of tests, so I've not tried to play on it yet. I'm not sure on the HDR, as again, I've not really used it yet, sorry.

I got myself one of these for £900 and it's great would definitely recommend it.

Sorry yes I also got the ultra

Either the C2 Ultra (what I have and LOVE) or the Valerian Pro2 (I believe has slightly better input lag), you can't go wrong with either. Valerian has a great deal with screen right now on their site.

The Horizon S Pro isn’t a bad projector at all, gorgeous and vibrant image quality. I do find it more tricky to line the screen up, and the stand that XGIMI makes for it, is one of the worst quality pieces of high priced equipment that I’ve ever had. Compared to the C2’s Vidaa OS, the Xgimi’s Android TV is horrid it response. I knew it was sluggish and clunky feeling, but I didn’t know how bad it was until I got the C2. It’s doable, just extremely clunky. And having a non backlit remote trying to clunk through the menu’s during the night is a headache until you get use to it. I also have the Halo+ New, and even with that one running Google tv, it’s just something with these XGIMI projectors that just makes using the software part a clunky experience. Image quality wise they are excellent, even on the Halo+. That’s if you can get them lined up properly, and get past the clunky Os. Sound quality is decent for the price range that it’s in, some movies can sound muffled out more than others, but you can adjust it a bit. I ended up using a Bluetooth soundbar, the S Pro does have a sync feature to help combat the sound delay, but I feel it moves the adjustment in the wrong direction. I ended up hooking up an Apple TV to the projector and used Apples sync as it’s much better if you want to use an external speaker. The only other gripe is the lack of ports, I wish it had just one more HDMI, and a 3.5mm jack bare minimum extra. But that’s about it and it all drove my curiosity towards the C2 Ultra eventually. . The C2 Ultra is double the price, and it should feel a bit more premium as it does, but I’m sure the cheaper C2, and the C2 pro would feel just as premium as the Ultra in the price range closer to the Max. Without question, the C2 ultra has everything that I felt was missing from the XGIMI, it’s snappy, beautiful image, back lit remote, ports galore, and sounds great. Though I’ll still end up using an external speaker as I just like my sound coming from the image side of life. However, If I didn’t know it was better out there, I would have been perfectly fine with the S pro. As long as you get it for the sale price. https://preview.redd.it/e49ysi2u7e5f1.jpeg?width=5584&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9bd105a6dae97d893c0117770367165f13bd4431

This one or the Hisense C2 mini that's also coming soon are probably your best bets. C2 mini is advised 1500€, but when you look around a bit you can always find a deal for around 20% less so if you can stretch your budget a bit you have twice the lumens from an even more reputable brand and an allround great model (have the C2 ultra myself)

I’m no pro but I’ve been here on the forums for a little when I was researching and I would say consensus here would probably say yes it’s worth getting a screen if you’re considering upgrading to a decent setup. This is all relative and dependent though. If you were going to spend $1000-$3000 on a good 4k projector that you can game well on, I’d say you should probably support your investment and bring it to its potential. If you’re spending $1000 or less and you are likely using a lot of keystone and just don’t want a screen, then I’d say just do what works for you, your needs, and budget. If you use a lot of keystone and aren’t setup to reduce it or not use it at all then you’re going to lose image quality and add input lag. That’s not a huge deal if you understand that and buy into an upgrade with those expectations. With lighter play on the switch the input lag added will probably be mostly acceptable. It really depends on what you want and what you need and then how much you’re willing to spend. You could spend $3k on a projector to use on a multicolor and textured wall at a big angle using a lot of keystone and you know, that’s fine and up to you if the budget is not a big deal. If you want the best experience possible on a $1500 budget then you’ll get the best results with a dedicated screen or painted wall area and a setup that removes use of keystone. I don’t know what you’re budget is and again I have limited experience here but I have used the Nebula 4K SE and would say for the price it’s pretty good for 4k and adequate for noncompetitive gaming. I started with the epson ef12 which was perfect for a small bedroom projector and limited space. I then got the Nebula for the living room and some gaming and it’s been pretty good. My latest was recently getting the Hisense C2 Ultra for everything and while the black levels will bother some for the price, it’s been an impressive projector for me. In the end it’s about what you want, what you need, what you can sacrifice, and having your expectations in check for what you’re getting and can afford.

I have the C2 Ultra but haven’t used anything else in this price range but it has been an excellent projector for movies and gaming. I’d say it’s bright enough to be in a lit room but enough sunlight is going to be an issue so hard to judge how much you mean. If I turn on my bedroom light with two 800 lumen hue bulbs then the screen is bright enough to view clearly and play video games on without issue. I was willing to get the C2 Pro but it was never available from Amazon. Anyways, the Ultra has good brightness, nice picture quality, good options for gaming, Dolby vision supported, great speaker with sub built in, built in gimbal stand, optical zoom, good auto keystoning if necessary, easy to use, quick operation, and generally feels like a quality projector.

The second projector I've owned is the Hisense C2 Ultra, upgraded from a Viewsonic PX701-4K. Not only does it look amazing on all levels in my darkened room but the fan is quietER than the Viewsonic. I normally don't even notice it.

The biggest thing that bugged me in choosing between the Valerion and the Hisense was all the paid for ads on Amazon for the Valerion. That didn't sit well with me and the Hisense being $500 cheaper in the US I chose the C2 Ultra and have never looked back. I made a post recently where I pulled up a C2 vs C3 YouTube video showing us side by side comparisons. I used screen shots in 3 scenes and sampled the same black levels in each then examined the HEX code. The C2 had deeper blacks in every instance. So, either that C3 is not as capable of as deep of blacks as the C2 or it was set differently which resulted in being a little brighter, or the C3 having brighter highlights (ie higher contrast) which would result in more ambient light back to the screen including the black portions skewed the result. Either way, super happy with my C2 Ultra in my darkened room and have spent tons of time dialing it in for excellent results. If I could have compared the Valerion to the C2 Ultra side by side, I would have.

I just explained my path to my purchase, and Amazon was not the only source of info (those Vine reviews bother me and it means they got a free projector to review it). On other review sites reports of EBL being hit or miss was part of it. Valerion being extremely slow to respond to my initial questions did not help. Saving $500 didn't hurt! The fact that Hisense essentially builds Valerion also swayed me. The C3 has an updated laser assembly but the biggest claim seems to be brightness which I do not need (and gives the Chinese market Dolby Vision). I am running my C2 Ultra at Laser Luminance 4/10 in Cinema Night mode, with brightness 44 / contrast 88 and it's dialed in very nicely and I am the last person on Earth that needs a brighter projector in my space.

I run my C2 Ultra at 5/10 laser luminance in a darkened theater, yes it is more than bright for this use for sure.

Dolby Vision is the only mode I use that locks out laser luminance. I use Cinema Night mainly, then HDR Night and HDR10+ Theater. Those allow the adjustment.

That would be my guess also, possibly related to one of the more in depth brightness menu modes. I just know that those other 3 modes I use along with very little other processing allow laser luminance. I also use Dolby Vision Custom because it sets the laser at 8/10 so even though I cannot adjust it it works better for my darkened room.

The Hisense C2 Ultra is very worthy.

I own a Hisense C2 Ultra and love it, but in that price range personally I would be interested in the Nexigo Trivision Ultra for its ALPD 5.0 tri-led-laser setup which appears to be a great stride (A) towards laser RGB but (B) to remove most laser speckle and rainbow effect. I love my C2 but I am constantly reading up on projectors now that I have a love for them, and I like the advancements made vs the cost of that unit. It even has all HDR including Dolby Vision.

I second this, really love my C2 Ultra. Amazing picture quality and also really great sound due to the built in subwoofer. Pro tip for gaming: Enable gaming mode, set the hdmi format to 240Hz, enable DLI turbo mode and use one of those expensive optic fiber hdmi cables, really helps with keeping latency to a minimum. Been using it with my ps5 and I absolutely love gaming on a huge screen, from rocket league to cyberpunk, everything looks stunning and runs smoothly.

I‘m really happy with my hisense c2 ultra

Respectfully, I purchased the C2 and returned it due to a large amount of laser speckle and DLP rainbow effect. I'm in the market for a replacement but will most likely avoid laser projectors going forward.

Hisense c2 its magic

Hisense C2 And silverticket whitte matte screen for less than 2,000 . I'm very happy with thatane the best setup I had.

I currently have both and I'm going to keep the N1S 4K.  It is much quieter than the C2, which is a priority in our bedroom because it is right above our heads. I find that the jmgo produces a more "cinematic" image, while the C2 produces a magnificent image that is closer to a television, but that's not what we're looking for. It's clear that the C2's image has more contrast, which is really beautiful. In a room with completely white walls, we use a motorised Nothingprojector Black Series screen. The fact that the JMGO is less bright is an advantage, but the C2 can also go quite low. For this type of projector to work with the ALR screen, we had to offset the video projector to avoid hot spots (we had a bright line that took up about 30% of the screen). I got the JMGO for 830€ and the C2 for 1300€. I am eagerly awaiting feedback on the Hisense M2 Pro, which will offer a real advantage with its optical zoom. We will see if it is quieter than the C2... If the C2 had been quiet, I think I would have chosen it and tried to calibrate it to get the image I like. It has more to offer!

The Valerion or Hisense C2 may be the best option for you. Great native and dynamic contrast with awesome brightness and colors. Also with great gaming input lag.

The C2 is fine projector. My point is that your gripe could have been alleviated by asking a forum full of people with the projector which are not "paid advertisers" Valerians secret sauce is the software which to this point has not been matched.

Sorry about this. I own the c2. Had a xiaomi before and I was getting the rainbow effect severely. With the c2 I have to actively look for it and it’s only in very tiny spots of highlights or more noticeable when subtitles are on. if that’s your experience try changing the color of subs from white or knocking back the brightness, this thing gets pretty bright!

None of the above. Valerion is whitelabeled crap like its sister company AWOL. Get the Hisense C2/C3 series instead