Valerion - VisionMaster Max

Nexigo Aurora Pro Mk II + an ALR screen (Nothing projector makes a seamless 132 inch if that fits on the wall, or a 120). A side benefit is that you wouldn't have to rip out the ceiling lights and fans since the projector would be on the floor in front of the screen. Without building a fake wall in front of the window you can't have an in-wall center anyway so you don't need something like a perforated screen. If you can't fit bigger than 120 (or less) I'd concur with ProjectionHead (aka Brian from Projectorscreen) that a floor-rising motorized ALR screen that comes up over the window would let you keep this room way more general use and then have a fantastic home cinema time anyway. You'd need blackout curtains over the window(s) instead of actually doing work to seal them. Alternatively if you prefer longer throw, a Valerion Pro 2 or Max, with the appropriate fresnel based ALR screen they sell. There are somewhat better projectors around the $5 grand mark but you're not buying just half the solution, you need to factor in the screen which can run $1-2 grand (or vastly more than that, you want a Screen Innovations Black Diamond in their Zero G motorized form it's more like five figures). But sure, you could go with a white screen and black everything but imo you absolutely don't need to. The clincher in my view is the available wall real estate you have to work with. If you could fit a 150, 175 or some other honking huge screen then a long throw and black walls would be the way to go. If you're limited to sub-150 anyway, why not UST?

Backed the Valerion Visionmaster Max on day 1 of the Kickstarter. This makes me feel even better about backing this for my first projector!

Another quality video from Rob. I’ll never be able to afford a JVC or Sony but was curious how the Valerion would compare. I backed the Valerion Max at the Kickstarter price of $2200 so if it’s just a little better than the Pro 2 I will be VERY happy. It’s going to have a better lens and some other upgrades so should be great for the price I got it at.

I pledged for the Valerion Max because of the Kickstarter pricing, as an early adopter I’m all in for around $2K. If I had your budget I’d probably go for the LS12000. Proven performer, solid company with worldwide support, parts. Epson is in the holy trinity of HT projector manufacturers for good reasons.

Great comparison and this is not even the Flagship Max version. The next generation with the Larger Chip is going to get even closer. The Big Boys are not going to be able to justify there prices much longer. This is what market disruption looks like

"The Valerion has no weakness and we have never seen a projector for this type of price and performance." The Hookup

I am likely going with the Valerion Max. I see not reason to not have Dolby Vision built into the projector. I am concerned about Laser speckle though. I got a refund for this POS as well.

If you're already used to the DLP look the Max could be a fine option. There will be some rainbow effect but if you're not noticing it on the HT1075 then chances are you won't see it on the Max. In terms of overall picture quality they will probably trade blows depending on the scene. The Max should be a bit brighter and punchier with the wider gamut in bright scenes but there will probably be some cases where the LS12000 wins with the higher dark intrascene contrast. HDR tonemapping seems to be much better on the Valerion and the only way the LS12000 will compete here is with something like a lumagen or madvr. Laser speckle is also a consideration. The Valerion projectors like most 3 laser models are prone to it especially if using a higher gain screen. The LS12000 can use just about any screen without any speckle. If your room is untreated or a light color the LS12000 would be able to use ALR screens without worrying about laser speckle while the Max may have issues with some screens. For gaming DLP has much better motion resolution in my experience compared to other projection technologies, but the LS12000 does support 4k 120hz output so it may be somewhat close. The Max does support 1080p 240hz which the LS12000 does not for fast paced games, but I don't think the PS5 will output that so you'd be limited to 1080p 120hz.

I got the valerion when it was still on kickstarter, best thing ever! Took forever to come tho. It was such a difference from my old projector (benq)

Valerion will offer great 4k/60hz gaming experience with good colors and contrast. But if you want to get 4k/120hz then it's either Epson or JVC/Sony and those will be above 4-5k if new and slightly lower if used. I would probably get Valerion unless you 100% need 120hz and have spare cash to burn.

The best projector under that budget is the Valerion which will blow those two out of the water.

I just LOVE how the Valerion punches so far above it's weight. Such a great projector at a pretty damn good pricepoint IMO.

I don’t have any experience with the Hisense so I can only speak about the Valerion. It’s super bright and the colors pop, which I think is pretty common with DLPs. The black levels are pretty damn good. It’s not the inky blacks that my LG OLED produces but honestly it’s good enough for me and the huge image it produces more than makes up for it. I’m using it in a room that is not light controlled and my setup is far from optimal but it looks fantastic. It runs super quiet and the build quality and design is impressive. I feel like if Apple made a projector it would be something like this (just in terms of material and attention to detail). No major downsides so far. 3D has been okay, nothing mind blowing. Lack of vertical lens shift isn’t great but I knew that going in. Even though it has built-in Google OS, I feel like my ONN dongle works better for consuming content. Overall I’m really happy with the purchase. Only slight regret is that maybe I should have waited for the Max but I’m too impatient for that.

Xgimi horizon S max is still €2000 right? Same as Valerion.