Valerion - VisionMaster Plus 2

That would work for the pro2 or the max, but not the plus or plus2. here is a chart that shows all the throw distances for each projector: [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UrFmVceDFaevY77I4FgQ9VtDtrG1uoCr/view](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UrFmVceDFaevY77I4FgQ9VtDtrG1uoCr/view)

That would work for the pro2 or the max, but not the plus or plus2. here is a chart that shows all the throw distances for each projector: [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UrFmVceDFaevY77I4FgQ9VtDtrG1uoCr/view](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UrFmVceDFaevY77I4FgQ9VtDtrG1uoCr/view)

There is no optical zoom on the plus 2. it does have a digital zoom, however the digital zoom will cause you to loose some resolution because it just crops out everything outside of the screen, which means all those pixels are lost. however it still works and looks great. It is the unfortunate downside of lifestyle projectors outside of the very high end price bracket.

The dangbei will actually have the same issue because it also has a fixed lens. so with that in mind and the valerion being cheaper, I would 100% get the valerion over the dangbei. here is a video showing some comparison. the plus 2 isn't in it, but you'll get the idea: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClIboELoz74&t=983s&ab\_channel=TheHookUp](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClIboELoz74&t=983s&ab_channel=TheHookUp) you could also consider the nexigo trivision ultra. that or the plus2 are fantastic options based on the reviews I have seen. the nexigo is even a little cheaper. but it also has the same issue with no optical lens zoom.

I just bought a Valerion Plus 2. It is absolutely fantastic!

The plus 2 is also getting phenomenal reviews. If you don’t need the additional brightness or optical zoom then it is the clear choice imo. Here’s a review: https://youtu.be/ONQKfhqq5TY?si=qeCow-mNQkfLO4je (equally glowing)

I have the Plus2 and the Pro2. Plus2 is plenty bright and performs exactly as the Pro2 with slightly lower brightness. Pro2 is just too bright anyway. The only advantage that the Pro2 has is the optical zoom, which I feel like is a must if you have any kind of a dedicated theater space with a screen.

I might have some FOMO but getting in on a $4,000 USD (future MSRP) projector for $2,200 (I signed up before the Kickstarter launched) was too good a deal to pass up. Even if it ends up retailing at $3,000-3500 that would still be out of my price range. Other pjs in the $2-3k range are tempting but for me some are not available and others just don’t have the features most important to me. I will be ceiling mounting mine and didn’t really want something with an integrated stand that couldn’t be removed. It also has HDR 10+, Dolby Vision, IMAX Enhanced. Licensed Google TV OS. Which many don’t care about but according to Valerion it can pass through lossless DTX/Dolby Master Audio so no need for me to upgrade my 2017 Shield.

I got the valerion when it was still on kickstarter, best thing ever! Took forever to come tho. It was such a difference from my old projector (benq)

The internal speakers are surprisingly good. We used them for a hot minute before placing it in our theater room. It worked for sure, and was very comfortable for watching content, but nowhere comparable to a proper audio setup of course. A good soundbar would likely provide a “better” sound, but then you need to figure out placement and running a cable to it. I wouldn’t feel the need to rush into buying an audio solution right away after getting your projector if you go with a Valerion. If you *did* spend the money on a sound solution, I’d easily invest in a receiver and proper speakers over a soundbar. Look for used deals, lots of people unload old speakers for cheap, and buy a good refurbished denon or marrantz receiver.

Valerion will offer great 4k/60hz gaming experience with good colors and contrast. But if you want to get 4k/120hz then it's either Epson or JVC/Sony and those will be above 4-5k if new and slightly lower if used. I would probably get Valerion unless you 100% need 120hz and have spare cash to burn.

You do realize that AVS forums is full of people that that have the Pro 2 and are not paid "advertisers". There are multiple people that have both the Pro 2 and the C2. You could have asked them directly for a comparison. In any case the Valerion with the black levels and tone mapping comes out ahead. The C2 and C3 the differences are not that big. A lot of people are noticing this

The C2 is fine projector. My point is that your gripe could have been alleviated by asking a forum full of people with the projector which are not "paid advertisers" Valerians secret sauce is the software which to this point has not been matched.

Please it's better than both those. It has better tone mapping and the EBL function Hisense has yet to counter with anything as effective clearly not in those two projectors

They provide the base. The software which is the real secret sauce is done by Valerian ie: Tonemapping and EBL. You do know that right? That is the difference and it's big.

Furthermore, you realize that the same OLED panels are used by different manufactures. It DOES not mean that then all the OLED's are the same. The difference again is the software. By the way Valerion is a subsidiary of Awol not Hisense

"The Valerion has no weakness and we have never seen a projector for this type of price and performance." The Hookup

I just got it and playing PS5. Looks great with next to no lag. Coming from an Epson 3800. The valerion is fantastic.

The best projector under that budget is the Valerion which will blow those two out of the water.

I just LOVE how the Valerion punches so far above it's weight. Such a great projector at a pretty damn good pricepoint IMO.

I don’t have any experience with the Hisense so I can only speak about the Valerion. It’s super bright and the colors pop, which I think is pretty common with DLPs. The black levels are pretty damn good. It’s not the inky blacks that my LG OLED produces but honestly it’s good enough for me and the huge image it produces more than makes up for it. I’m using it in a room that is not light controlled and my setup is far from optimal but it looks fantastic. It runs super quiet and the build quality and design is impressive. I feel like if Apple made a projector it would be something like this (just in terms of material and attention to detail). No major downsides so far. 3D has been okay, nothing mind blowing. Lack of vertical lens shift isn’t great but I knew that going in. Even though it has built-in Google OS, I feel like my ONN dongle works better for consuming content. Overall I’m really happy with the purchase. Only slight regret is that maybe I should have waited for the Max but I’m too impatient for that.

Xgimi horizon S max is still €2000 right? Same as Valerion.