XGIMI - Horizon 20 Max

Ignore those deluded Valerion fans. Tbf if you only consume non subtitle dark content then maybe Valerion ebl will be the better choice for you. Assuming you're not sensitive to rbe, under $3k the best is dangbei s7 ultra max, then it's a tossed up between xgimi horizon 20 max and nebula x1. For ust, nexigo ap mk2 is better than valerion and has no rbe / speckle issue too.

EBL produces typical adverse effects: visible pumping, color drift (particularly in reds) and overall image instability. For accurate cinema reproduction, it's best to avoid this mode and concentrate on other available adjustments. If that is not important to you ("accurate cinema reproduction" is just measurements, not how you enjoy what you see), then by all mean go for the Valerion as they are the best in the market. Without EBL, both the XGimi H20 Max and Pro are better out the box in D65 film mode. Ditto for the Nebula X1. All those projectors are really good nonetheless.

Xigimi Horizon 20 Pro or Max, the ceiling mount make it look slick, it has lens shift allows vertical and horizontal adjustment. Good integrated sound and bluetooth audio works well.

I finally made the jump to the XGIMI Horizon 20 Max from the Horizon S Max, and the upgrade is spectacular. Beyond the huge increase in clarity and brightness, the 20 Max feels like a true flagship projector. The image is breathtaking, and key additions like optical zoom and lens shift immediately elevate this model, making it a powerful and flexible core for my bedroom theater. The gaming experience was excellent, with noticeable speed and no perceived input lag for casual play. The install, just like the previous model, was easy, even with the upgrade from Android TV to Google TV. I setup my unit on a table and the projector's auto setup features meant I didn't need to spend a lot of time dialing in the alignment. I was impressed to see optical zoom and lens shift featured on this model; definitely a plus for those rooms that need some minor adjustments without having to physically move the unit. The first movie I watched was The Dark Knight Rises, and the sound quality (from the built in speakers), color and contrast performance exceeded my expectations. Afterwards I watched more movies and other video content and found the brightness range to really work in my favor especially when I wanted to use the projector with a few lights on. The fan noise is also surprisingly low, even with the projector running at higher brightness levels, which was great for my bedroom. I’d definitely recommend this projector to others looking for a compact unit for their dedicated room and for use both indoors and outdoors around the home. See below for my personal equipment. Equipment details: • Projector: XGIMI Horizon 20 Max • Screen: 120” Elite Screens Manual Pull Down Screen M120UWH2 For Audio: • AVR: Marantz SR5007 • Fronts: JBL 3310 (Pair) • Center: Klipsch RC-42II • Rears: Klipsch Quintet III BK-2 • Sub: Klipsch R100SW 10” If you’re picking one of these up what movies are you watching? I’d love to see some recommendations.

I have had some time with the engineering sample and now the retail unit of this model and here is the high level overview of this model. Testing Xgimi Horizon 20 Max and the marketing does not lie, the brightness of this calibrated is pushing 3500+ lumens, native contrast between 1200-1672:1 and dynamic pushes 20000:1. The built in HDR tone mapping is very good on this model and for 3d and gaming there is not an equal in the North American market yet! The included lens shift and all the other image manipulation settings work so well and the gimbal gives so much flexibility on casual family events but still allows for more traditional mounting options also! The laser speckle is improved over previous RGB lasers but still screen dependent. If you are mainly into 3d or gaming this projector delivers so much value! I have taken it for a few weekend outings and the included carrying case is very much appreciated. This allows you to create easy impromptu setups and the built in speakers are great when needing to deliver impressive sound without all the extra baggage. The backlit remote is very nice and has a nice weight and the Bluetooth just works. Wifi performance is very good also. Noise level is very low even in laser 10 at non max brightness or boost settings, This is my new go to projector for lifestyle related events replacing the previous Horizon Ultra. Now that I have summarized the Pro's, here are the current con's; -DBLE can cause some shifting to blue (Being investigated and confident they can fix this) -No DBLE on lower laser settings than 10 (Assuming it can be fixed but could cause color shifting) -Some color shifting seen when using DBLE even on laser 10 (Being looked into) -No DBLE on DV currently (Being investigated and confident they can fix this) -Possible concern on ceiling mount airflow as it inflows from back and outflow is from bottom, which is directly into the gimbal stand bottom (I think I would prefer a side to side airflow) -Menu system does not include summaries on all settings (Reported and being looked into) -I currently see a Built in Disney+ motion issue that so far has not been resolved with MEMC settings, I do not have this issue if I use external device for Disney+ and I do not have this issue with other projector models that use Google TV as their OS (aka Valerion Pro 2). (Reported and seeing other retail users report, this is being looked into) -Not really a con as it was never included, but an iris would really help the native contrast as seen on other competitors, but at this price category I am guessing they opted to include electronic lens shift V/H Overall this is a very compact, impressive package that can really deliver some great Theater, 3D, gaming experiences that are currently unmatched in the North American market at this feature/value to price ratio. Xgimi has also provided good FW support for previous Xgimi models and this looks like it will continue for the lifetime of the 20 Max. Let me know if you have any questions and I will be happy to answer. :) I will be providing a more detailed review, I am hoping to do this after some new firmware is released that will allow improved DBLE (EBL) on DV and on lower laser values.

The laser speckle is improved but still dependant on the screen. Most suggest a acoustically transparent weaved screen like silver ticket WAB or XY screens makes a nice one also. XGIMI is working on some new firmware to help with various issues reported. I will update as I am able to test and they release them to OTA updates.

The Epson definitely does not. HC3800 is super old tech, it's a bulb projector with 1/2 4K resolution (1080p x2 instead of 1080p x4). It's got low color space coverage and underwhelming contrast. TK710 is pretty good but the long throw version doesn't have quite as good of contrast as the short throw (710STi). Others mentioned in this thread (Valerion Pro 2, Nebula X1, Horizon 20 Max) will blow both of those projectors out of the water though.

I'd recommend the Horizon 20 series to you. Max if its in budget, Pro if you want to stay under $2K. Gets you vertical and horizontal keystone, very decent sound. For a 92" diagonal screen at 10ft you'll need a 1.5:1 throw ratio which is the max throw of the Horizon 20, but slightly too close for the Valerions.

Honestly I think the XGIMI projects are the best bang for your buck they offer the best possible picture quality + higher lumens. At a lower cost to you and from what I found from my own research they have the most packed feature set. The new horizon series comes with 240hz, IMAX enhance, Dolby vision, Dolby Atmos, VRR, 3-D, optical and shift, 4k UHD, 3200 iso lumens and more all costing less $1,200 https://a.co/d/0hwTMC3, https://a.co/d/0hwTMC3, https://us.xgimi.com/products/horizon-20

I have a base horizon 20 and its awesome

I was in the same boat looking for something smooth in my gaming room. It was between the horizon 20 or the c2 ultra. After all my digging and research I settled with the c2 ultra. It’s built for xbox so the input lag is minimal and it isn’t iso lumens which means the dark points and contrast isn’t toned out by the actual blast of brightness. I do have a completely isolated dark room with no ambient light so if you don’t have that I’d recommend the horizon as it does better with ambient light. Both great picks but the specs and design of the c2 ultra for your wish list is what I’d go with

Being realistic, you are going to have problems dealing with any ambient light in the room with the price point you are at. A model like the Nexigo Trivision Ultra is more in line with where you would want to be, or a BenQ HT2060. The XGimi Horizon is a nice model, but isn't super bright and will need a dark room to operate the best. With ambient light, you will have a very low contrast ratio. You want to be aware of the throw distance as well.. [https://www.projectorcentral.com/XGIMI-Horizon-projection-calculator-pro.htm](https://www.projectorcentral.com/XGIMI-Horizon-projection-calculator-pro.htm)

You could get a xgimi horizon s which is bright and good for gaming and 4k and probably would be my choice and a lazer mixed led based projector with 25000 hours lifetime Epson 4050 if you care for black level and lens shift etc But its a bulb and only last for 4000 hours Ive also seen short throw projectors at this price point on eBay and those should have long lifespan and are better for smaller rooms My personal choice would be the xgimi as its easy to mount and looks pretty good for the cost, i’d check it on ebay from the actual seller who sells a refurbished version for 850$ and a new one for 1100$

Like you I have a Mogo 3 pro. In my opinion if you want to upgrade you should go for the Horizon series always by Xgimi

Dangbei has some good options. I traded up to the Xgimi horizon and it had a ton of good features including an HK designed sound system and Dolby vision. Latency isn’t great so idk about anything ultra precise but I would recommend it overall for movies/shows and it’s 4k. I got it on sale for like $1200