Horizon 20

What do you mean daytime? Like, you plan to use it in a lit up family room with the curtains open? Fuck that. You need a UST projector with a matching UST/ALR screen. That will be watchable, but will still be crap compared to any TV from Walmart. The base model delivered over 2,000 lumens in a color accurate mode. That's a fair bit of light output if you intend to have some light in the room. Watch this video as it discusses things... [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bgx841ENRc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bgx841ENRc) But, you need to control ambient light, or buy a TV. Period.

It all depends on how much light is truly coming in. If you've ordered it, then you will see how well it performs in various lighting conditions. You will quickly see the fall off in quality from a fully dark room to even a small bit of ambient light. Still, I turn on lights quite often when watching casual TV in my basement. Sitcoms or sports hold up well with some ambient lighting in the room. You also want the light to be away from the screen if possible. The less light where the screen is, the better the image will appear.

It used to be necessary to haul around home theater or business class projectors to get any usable image on a screen at all. So, if you're cool with moving around the H20 as your move about projector, then by all means, do it! It will give you a much brighter image than the portable models and it has a fantastic image. Looks like the power draw in at or under 180 watts so you should be good to go for hours of projection fun. A fair bit less if you also are running some decent audio to go with it.

Lifestyle models are basically taking over the home theater market in that price range. But, there are models which absolutely trash the old home theater models. Xgimi with their Horizon 20, the Valerion Visionmaster models, the Nexigo Trivision Ultra. These are all a different box around the projector, but the image quality they are delivering is really exceptional. Yeah, I've had issues with the format as well, but it is what the industry is doing at this point. More lifestyle models, less home theater specific models. The BenQ HT2060 is a solid 1080p LED projector, but for the money, there is just no chance I would purchase it.

Horizon 20 from XGimi is about the line I would put out there for a very good value to quality and should be exceptional for gaming.

The JMGO N1S is a serious cut above the Samsung Freestyle. Remember, you want quality over cute every day of the week. Coming from something cheap, the N1S should be close in price to the Freestyle and gives you a real bump in brightness and overall performance and reliability. Yeah, models that cost $3,000 look better. Models like the XGimi Horizon 20 ($1,500) look better. But, at your budget, if it is around the same as what the Freestyle often costs, then the JMGO N1S is a real step up in what you are after. The Hook Up (as mentioned) has videos that cover this, but the N1S won their portable shootout a couple of years ago at $1,000. At half that price it is a real powerhouse of a product.

With proper care, they are as reliable as most other brands out there like Samsung or LG. XGimi isn't a new company and has been pretty active for over 10 years now. JMGO is newer. Hisense is a MASSIVE company and is in the same league as Samsung when it comes to electronics. Samsung is #1, but Hisense is #2. So, yeah, they are a pretty solid company. That said, companies like Hisense and Samsung don't prioritize projectors in their business model. Companies like JMGO and XGimi do. So, we are seeing more advancement from the smaller brands than the larger ones. One of the absolute top tier companies is JVC, who people barely think about when it comes to electronics these days. But, in the world of projectors, JVC is pretty close to being the top dog. There are also brands consumers have never heard of like Christie Digital and Barco who often operate at the very high end.

In the right room, projectors look great. The lifestyle models coming to market right now are very good value for the money. I think I'd take the Horizon 20 for a model under $1,500 due to the lens shift and zoom on the projector. Those are major additions that no DLP model in this price range can touch as far as I know. You have to spend a good deal more to get those features. But, in a bad room, in a room with ambient light in it, projectors can start to look quite bad. They can still be very usable though, but you have to be willing to live with the limitations. No idea what your setup is specifically like. I know it my last home we did a dual projection/TV setup. Screen came down in front of the projector so we could enjoy either one as we chose.

I can't really hit all your details here. If you are not planning to use this a ton, you may want to hit up eBay and pick up a used WUXGA DLP projector. They are lamp-based, but you can get 5,000+ lumen models for well under $1,000 which are often of a higher caliber than a brand new $1,300 model. I would stick with DLP projectors as you will get better black levels. My headache, is that these models likely won't get close to 5,000 lumens. They just advertise that as their brightness, but it is more likely they are giving you closer to 3,000 usable lumens... [https://www.projectorcentral.com/projectors.cfm?g=2&br=5000&br=7000<g=101&dt=3.0.0&p=500&p=2500&oop=1&sort=prlow#list](https://www.projectorcentral.com/projectors.cfm?g=2&br=5000&br=7000<g=101&dt=3.0.0&p=500&p=2500&oop=1&sort=prlow#list) Something like this though, used, would be very interesting if you have a limited use case... [https://www.projectorcentral.com/Panasonic-PT-DZ6700U.htm](https://www.projectorcentral.com/Panasonic-PT-DZ6700U.htm) It comes with a lens and has a much better lens than the cheap $1,000 models that you can get new. Rated at 6,000 ANSI lumens from a company that is very reputable. It only has a DVI input for digital video, so you'd need a $10 HDMI to DVI adapter. I've used these in the past and they work great. Something like this as well... [https://www.ebay.com/itm/257171352318](https://www.ebay.com/itm/257171352318) Just search for WUXGA DLP Projectors on eBay and sort by price. Don't look at anything that is listed as 'parts only'. eBay should cover you for 30 days on any purchase made. I've had good luck when buying through them. Old unused projectors are a tough market to sell into, so there are phenomenal deals to be had. I think I got a 6700U (Panasonic) for $80 one time. FOR AUDIO: I don't have any specifics of what is loud enough. The one time I did stuff outside, the sound came from a DJ who was there. I had communicated what connection I could give him, and he assured me he could connect it to his audio, and it all worked great. You can look at PA speakers on places like [Sweetwater.com](http://Sweetwater.com) and check pricing. They have some models for under $500 each which look solid to my untrained eye... [https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Thump215XT--mackie-thump215xt-enhanced-1400w-15-inch-powered-speaker](https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Thump215XT--mackie-thump215xt-enhanced-1400w-15-inch-powered-speaker) The reality is that I would likely ask on a more audio specific section of Reddit about what PA speakers may be best for this type of setup. FOR YOUR SCREEN: Any flat painted white surface will work. I used a bedsheet when I did my outdoor thing and it worked just fine. But, I would likely go to at least a 200" diagonal if you can. Amazon has some inflatable screens for under $300 which may work great for your needs... [https://www.amazon.com/Yimukaka-Outside-Support-Projection-Stable-Frame-Outdoor-Combination/dp/B08NCMN1SR/ref=sxin\_17\_pa\_sp\_search\_thematic\_sspa](https://www.amazon.com/Yimukaka-Outside-Support-Projection-Stable-Frame-Outdoor-Combination/dp/B08NCMN1SR/ref=sxin_17_pa_sp_search_thematic_sspa) You do want to ensure you are using a 16:9 screen if you go this route, and I'd probably shoot for around a 200" to 240" diagonal (or so). It will give everyone a nice immersive experience.

I like the new laser models, but it can be a great deal to hit up eBay if you're working on a budget and you get a MUCH higher class of projector. That said, the new laser models are quite good looking. Even the smaller lifestyle models like the Horizon 20 series may be bright enough to fill a 200" screen in a dark room.

There is a lot to unpack here. You have a surround system already, so you will just need to run a HDMI cable from the AV receiver out to the projector. If you get a projector with HDMI-ARC, you can backfeed audio into the Yamaha, or you may choose to use a streaming device directly with the Yamaha receiver like a Roku Ultra or Apple TV. Generally, third party streaming devices are better than those built into TVs or projectors. You should plan to hook any PC up to your Yamaha, and pass the video on to the projector. SOURCE->YAMAHA->PROJECTOR/ROOM SPEAKERS There are a ton of decent projectors out there, and they run the range of price and quality, but right now the XGimi Horizon 20 series is making waves for the quality it offers at a reasonable price and is where I'd start looking. Also, take a look at this video and others on his channel as it may help you understand what is out there and how they compare... [https://youtu.be/F6mFV7XQC3o?si=Ah8MisiezTxm\_Tpu](https://youtu.be/F6mFV7XQC3o?si=Ah8MisiezTxm_Tpu)

Yes, you should not have any issues connecting your PC to the Yamaha directly and it pushing video to the projector and audio to your speakers. The Horizon 20 is about $1,500. The Nexigo Trivision Ultra has some refurbs around $1,100 I believe. Not sure what else is out there around this price point which would really do a good job.

The XGimi Horizon 20 series is what I'd get right now. You get a zoom lens, lens shift, and automatic image correction in a model that's available at 3 brightness levels and 3 price points. So, on a smaller screen or in a dimmer room, you can go with their cheaper model and save some cash. Choice is yours. The DBOX02 Pro is well reviewed and a solid choice as well. But, I'd consider the H20 models better with their lens shift and range of options.

In a proper dedicated theater, with dark paint on all the walls and ceiling, you just need a basic matte white screen. If you also are doing a decent audio setup, then a acoustic screen makes a lot of sense. The Silver Ticket WAB screens are a great way to go. Please look at your measurements. Seems like 200 feet viewing distance is more like a auditorium at a college, not a small dedicated space. 200cm (6.5 feet) is REALLY tiny. 200" is over 15 feet, so that's not really small either. Just not sure what your real measurements are. I agree with u/Tempoth on this. If you can get the XGimi Noir, and wait a few months on it being delivered, it is one of the best options you may have right now. Otherwise, I might go with the XGimi Horizon 20 series, or the Valerion models.

Elite Screens has some 'Yardmaster' series of screens designed for outdoor use. Be aware, it will struggle during the daytime, if it is usable at all. The sky is crazy bright, and projectors, even bright projectors are not able to compete. The Valerion models, and XGimi Horizon 20 series of projectors are solid choices. I like the Horizon 20 a great deal due to their inclusion of optical zoom and optical lens shift. Almost unheard of from any other model at this price point. Watch this video as it will help you get an understanding of what is around your price point... [https://youtu.be/9QqnfJ0-I\_s?si=p88bCpfragTgla8S](https://youtu.be/9QqnfJ0-I_s?si=p88bCpfragTgla8S)

I personally own the base model. Have been nothing but impressed, and run a matte white drop down screen. Gaming is phenomenal with no input lag whatsoever so ever. Even during the day with a decent bit of light in my living room it is still watchable.

I upgraded to the horizon 20 base model from an epson 3800 and the difference is night and day.

https://preview.redd.it/k298opy5rrzf1.jpeg?width=5712&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5c902bc5ba46ec7650aa53d1b5a3a5ecedc2791e This is the horizon 20 base model, honestly barely use my tv since I got it. This is throwing at 100 inches with brightness at level 6.

The new Xgimi 20 series not available? Why pick the old xgimi?

Iirc the new xgimi 20 base is around your range

Imo wait for promotion, the base 20 can be a low as $1.2k. However, with day time usage imo you will need the max with the highest brightness ~57% brighter than the base.

Good thing about such content is their bright colors so even with some ambient lights it will do fine, at least for those 1500 lumens and higher ones. If you plan to only watch in the dark then you can afford to lose some brightness. You need to know your throw ratio and the screen size you want for brightness level. 4m gap, imo can go to 150" but projectors can get expensive for that size lumens. Imo get ust and alr screen if you can. PQ will never be as good as tv, hence best is to get the biggest tv you can afford. Projector is only an option due to large tv being expensive or can't fit the door. Xgimi horizon 20 for less than $1.2k is a good basic starter. Or get those cheap projector and use a cheap grey alr cloth like this: https://youtu.be/po60aU4Iifw

This is odd... I am gaming on my Switch 2 and I have low latency mode on with a lot of manual keystone adjustments (Horizon 20 base). Though I have a separate issue with low latency switch being grayed out/disabled on Switch 1...

I got mine on the Black Friday deal for $1189 (USD). I’d wait for a similar sale. Then, you can buy a projector screen to improve the picture quality in ambient light. I’ve got my horizon 20 base paired with Wupro’s black crystal ALR screen (fixed frame), and I’m super happy with the results.

I recommend spending 180 more if possible and getting the horizon 20 base…incredible [picture](https://imgur.com/a/FSn7Zpm) at this price point…

I haven’t used it in the daytime because it’s on my balcony but I’ve used it with the lights on full blast and it looks great to me… I’ll have to snap a picture next time I set it up…

I have the H20 Base since November and it's mounted to the ceiling with the XGIMI ceiling mount (which is great by the way) and connected to an Onkyo avr. I project to a white matt wall in a light controlled room and the picture is great. My previous projector was an 11 year old Acer 1080p projector and it's a night and day difference. The colors are great, the picture is sharp, the projector is really quiet and the integrated Google TV system is fast. I do also game and that's great as well. Their Dynamic Black Enhancement is not working that well so far but they're working on it. Even with it disabled, dark scenes look ok.

I was hesitant because of the lack of reviews as well but it's pretty sharp, even without the red ring lens, and very bright.

It really hangs pretty low with the original mount. I measured 48.5 centimeters which is approximately 19.09 inches from ceiling to end of projector. If that is too low for you you should get a 3rd party mount, there are several out there.

You should go with the XGIMI Horizon 20 (Pro). It has either 4k 60 Hz or 1080p 240hz with VRR and very low 1ms input lag. I have the base version and it's great so far.

I have the H20 base version and project a 120" picture on a white wall. The picture is great, very sharp and good colors. It's too bright for me in a dark room so I use it with 3-5 brightness. Be aware that some people are very sensitive to RBE. I see it sometimes in high contrast scenes (white text on black background) but it doesn't bother me. Dolby Vision is as blast. The stranger things finale looked gorgeous and Tron Ares was stunning as well.