
Valerion
VisionMaster Pro 2
Great picture/gaming, but RBE and no lens shift are dealbreakers.

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You forgot to include price... But in no situation is this a good deal. Even if free. The bulb is more expensive than a cheap Chinese 1080p projector. I love my 120$ 1080 projector but I need black out curtains because the sun is very bright where . I live Visit /r/budgetprojectors to find buying advice in your price range - or dm me if you want to chat - but stay away from this projector - but watch out for people on this subreddit who will make you feel bad if you don’t spend a lot of money - but I understand not everyone lives in America with USD and money to burn. Cheers!
What's most important to you? What I found in the budget was basically a trio of things important to me Traits: Resolution / Picture Quality Brightness Response time if I wanted to game New: I found I could get any trait <500$ Two Traits <1000$ If I wanted all three started to get closer to 2000 USD After my little bit of research this was my favorite laser 4k bright enough for 700 USD NEW! [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0967XXVH2?ref=ppx\_yo2ov\_dt\_b\_fed\_asin\_title&th=1](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0967XXVH2?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1) Just slightly too slow for gaming so I returned it - I ended up just getting a 1080p LED for like 120$ and its bright enough but itll last <2 years ...that gives me more time to justify the 2000$ for a bright, 4k, fast projector...
This is for me. I had the XGMI that was 4k for 700$ it was almost perfect just too slow. After all your expertise , for XGMI what do you think I would need to spend to get something that can play the occasional first person shooters - I dont play competitively. but it seemed like It would have been the 1600$ model? Is that enough or do I have to go up to the 2200$ one?? Thanks for your input. Hows the market been? I dont NEED one for a bit, but im afraid theyre going to go UP not DOWN over the next year. Obviously tech gets cheaper, and displays are so cheap - and you have people innovating in the budget space (cheap LEDs) - but with the global economy, idk if I should just pull the trigger or wait the year and see what comes down.
...and you cant do ebay? What if you had a 'friend' who lived in the states... Did you pull the plug on anything? I am just not the expert on projectors I didnt realize how hard it was for you to get the chinese ones. Lol you could take a vacation and bring one home at those prices...thats what all my buddies did who lived in South America, theyd fill their bags with cheap burner samsung phones for all their family.
The horizon 20 pro is what I landed on and I like it a lot. It’s better than the epson 3800 in almost every way imo too. Zoom was similar and atleast met my needs at home, digital lens shift is better than epsons manual, its quieter, puts out less heat, the image is brighter , the image is clearer, and it still supports 3D. It has a way longer lamp life, and the big reason I got it was for 120hz. I game a lot and the 2ms or whatever input lag is vastly better and noticeable also. It also boots up in 1/3 the time as the epson. I sold me epson with 2100 hours on it today for 800$ and don’t regret a thing. Hope it helps.
Check out the xgimi horizon series if going new. I just replaced my epson 3800 with a horizon pro and love it. That said I sold the epson for 700$, which had 2100 hours of lamp use. It was a great projector and would probably last another 5 years on the same bulb. I projected at 150” and was never dissatisfied. Deals are out there, keep searching. I’ll be sticking with laser personally now.
Good news, your expectations are super reasonable. Do you want one with a built-in OS like Android or are you happy just throwing a Fire Stick or equivalent in for streaming movies? XGIMI has refurbished models on their website around your price point that'll likely exceed what you're looking for, and you can very likely find a used BenQ or an older-model Valerion around there too.
You should be able to get the XGIMI Horizon refurb on their website around that. It's what I'd be using if I hadn't gotten a great deal on my TK710 this summer (Amazon Prime deals can be a heck of a thing if you get lucky)
We currently have this one https://www.bol.com/be/nl/p/xgimi-horizon-smart-projector-beamer-harman-kardon-2-x-8w-luidsprekers-chromecast-1500-iso-lumen-dolby-audio-bluetooth-dts-h/9300000044603293/?Referrer=ADVNLGOO002013-S--9300000044603293-PMAX-C-22290424073&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22294182655&gbraid=0AAAAAD5OnmPlILNzP11NiqlX2MtiWrlqW&gclid=Cj0KCQiAi9rJBhCYARIsALyPDts1akWALTyWymsIadPHF43_jL_Kkimu6EWjVmg1IzPJ8DNfdxi53CIaAuGMEALw_wcB But we have also had the Halo+ (is think) before that. We are verry happy, this thing runs Every day for hours on end (im partial insomniac, so spend most time watching shows and movies on Plex). This thing is great
Xgimi horizon pro max. Lens shift works beautifully. Optical zoom capability, Software is snappy. Projected image is crisp without light spills
Depends on the size screen youre tryig to have. I disagree with other commenter on projectors. they arent hard to set up, they are easier to move, and if you want a large screen way outpace an oled, because pricing gets high for big OLED tvs and the bigger they are, the more stationary they becime. A decent 4k projector starts around $1000 you can get a 65inch oled for that price. If youre going to be using a projector at 80inch screensize or smaller, get an oled in your price range, the image quality of oled is unparalleled, But if yiu want 80inches or bigger projectors are awesome, and most play 3d too. However these days you can get a 77inch oled for $1500, so not a huge difference,and high end projectors will cost at least 2x that. I have a 42inch c2 oled in my bedroom, a xgimi 1080p projector casting about 75-80inchs in there as well that only cost $200 and I use both alot depending on what im watching and lighting conditions. In my family room I have a 42 inch cheap 4k tv, and the xgimi horizon s pro (about $1200 when i bought it) 2024 model 4k projector casting about 120inch screen. I never even turn on the 42inch in the family room, the projector is just so captivating because the size, and while image quality is less than that of an OLED, its still beautiful and 3d movies that size are fun to watch as an added bonus. Gaming on a huge screen is also just a lot of fun. Bright light and basically all projectors become bad, so if you have no control over lighting and watch a lot during the day, a projector is no good. Like everything, there are positives and negatives to both.

Valerion
VisionMaster Pro 2
Great picture/gaming, but RBE and no lens shift are dealbreakers.

Epson
Home Cinema 5050UB (V11H930020)
Great value with huge lens shift, but outdated lamp tech and poor HDR.
Epson
Pro Cinema LS12000 4K PRO-UHD Laser Projector
Superb 4K/120Hz gaming and no RBE, but requires calibration.

BenQ
W1070
Budget king, durable with good image, but RBE can be distracting.

BenQ
HT2060
Excellent 1080p contrast and quiet gaming, but low brightness for big screens.

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