
Valerion
VisionMaster Pro 2
Great picture/gaming, but RBE and no lens shift are dealbreakers.

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Got the laser variant and it rocks so far
Man, I gamed for a few hours on it first time I set it up and didn't notice anything like that. However my use case for this thing is for my camper van and camping so I am likely not as particular as I would be for home use. The low latency sure is nice though eh?
I got my N1S 4k yesterday from amazon for $748. Itās the best value for your money and I was blown away by the image quality and how bright and deeper the contrast is. I was coming from xgimi mogo 4 laser and the difference is night and day. The only thing I will miss are optical zoom and image shift from xgimi. Im using it now as my daily driver while awaiting for my Awol Aetherion Max.
Iāve been using the XGIMI MoGo 4 Laser Portable Projector for a small home setup and itās surprisingly solid for a 4āÆK laser unit. It pushes about 4āÆ000 lumens, handles a 150āinch screen nicely in a dimābutānotācompletelyādark room, and runs on WiāFiāÆ6 so you can stream straight from your phone. The price is around $599.99, which is a lot less than the bigābox laser beasts but still packs a good HDR punch. If you want a sleek, portable option that wonāt break the bank, give it a look.
I ended up loving the XGIMI MoGoāÆ4āÆLaser Portable Projector for tight spaces. Itās about $599.99, puts out ~4āÆ000 lumens, and the laser gives a solid 4āÆK image without needing a pricey ceiling mount. The box is ~9āÆin tall, so it fits nicely on a floating shelf, and the power brick hangs off the back without adding much depth. Iāve used it for Netflix and light gaming and the latency feels fine for casual play. If you need a compact 4āÆK option under $2āÆ000āÆCAD, give this one a look.
i was in the same boat looking for a compact 4k setup for a tiny living room. ended up with the xgimi mogo 4 laser portable projector ā it fits on a small table, throws a 100ā120" image from about 2ft, and the brightness is solid for a room that isnāt pitch black. price is about $599.99, which is a sweet spot for the quality you get. it also has builtāin Android so you donāt need an extra box. fwiw itās a bit pricier than a basic pico projector but the image clarity is worth it.
(please notice that * This was an answer to this thread: [https://www.reddit.com/r/projectors/comments/1qbia6l/projector\_help\_needed/](https://www.reddit.com/r/projectors/comments/1qbia6l/projector_help_needed/) * for some reason I couldn't answer to it, so i copied the text) * I'm german and while i typed this in english, i let chat gpt have a look at it correct some spelling errors. but its my true story) Hello, Iām 38 years old and I started with an Epson. I donāt know if anyone still remembers the model, but it was an Epson EH-TW480. According to my Amazon account, I ordered it on August 16th, 2012 [the epson](https://preview.redd.it/duokb91rpddg1.jpg?width=4608&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=63f3a76f34c3a16fecf7c0ace741b5580ab69dc2) I had it for years before switching to a BenQ projectorāsome 1080p projector with 5,000 ANSI lumens. It was the brightest projector I ever owned. That was around 2018ā2019. So I spent about 7 years with traditional projectors. And then everything changed. The start of my post actually wasnāt correct, because when I really think about it, my very first projector was a tiny ā¬150 projector from eBay. I think it was HP. It was terrible. I returned it asap and then went with the Epson. In 2019 (or 2020, Iām not sure), I found out about the XGIMI Halo. Around that time, XGIMI released this ad: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UahPcS07sTU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UahPcS07sTU) And yes, itās an adābut it summed up perfectly what the Halo changed for me: a smart system, ease of use, and great specs. (That said, the evolution with the Halo+ was needed, and it was the best thing that ever happened to the Halo.) Before the Halo+, I had a PC in my setup, and later I added a Xiaomi TV box. But the PC was still there for games. The Halo+ made all of that unnecessary. [From the epson](https://preview.redd.it/mf6zaritpddg1.jpg?width=4608&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5f60b6b189325f56a18a7a14592e552caa156b37) The tricky part is brightness: the Halo+ is about as far away from 5,000 ANSI lumens as we are from the moon. But it only took me a few days to realize that the device itself was way more useful than the 5,000 ANSI lumen projector. I used it a lot more, and I used it better than the BenQ before. [i seemigly did have another compact projector before gimbal projectors.](https://preview.redd.it/zp0picrtqddg1.jpg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=be8a770ba7889dfe05f3dfed0f4225b4797cc090) Iām not a āperfect cinemaā expertāand neither is my girlfriend. She learned a lot about projectors from knowing me, and sheāll never be able to watch at home on a 65-inch screen again. While people here will tell you about black levels and all that stuff, at some point the ease of use just takes over. These days Iām rocking a XGIMI Horizon 20 Max with all those nice features like lens shift and optical zoom. But Iām not owning it because of that. I donāt really use those features at all, to be honest. Iām now back at around 5,700 ISO lumens, and I couldnāt be happier. For me, thereās no going back. Some brands, like ViewSonic (not sure if thatās a German thing), tried Android/Google TV but failed. BenQ did too. Regular brands areāin my viewāonly playing catch-up with XGIMI, JMGO, and more recently Dangbei. Since the release of the Aura, weāve been using an Aura, and since last year weāve been using an Aura 2. The Horizon is in our bedroom. The only area where I went with another company was travel: JMGO changed the game with the ready-to-take-with-you JMGO N1. It comes in a case, which is super handyāexcept when it opens by itself. Theyāve revised the design by now, so it canāt happen anymore. Still, I think XGIMI saw that concept and thought, āWe can do thatābut make it even better,ā and brought the XGIMI MoGo 4 Laser Outdoor Set to life. It combines a laser projector (there are plenty of discussions about its ups and downs on Facebook, and I donāt want to sugarcoat anything), a tripod, and a screen. For me, thatās the perfect travel bag. I donāt use the MoGo 4 in my normal life, but when weāre on a ski trip, I always take it with me. There is just no other company that thought of a bag that includes everything: the projector and the whole projection setup. Iāve said it before and Iāll say it again: they should make a 100-inchāor better, 120-inchāversion of that screen. Keep the design, just make it bigger. Thatās all thatās needed to make it even better. All in all: companies like XGIMI and JMGO shaped the projector market into what it is today. I wouldnāt even count Hisense in the same category, because theyāve been in the TV/projector market for a long time, and they arenāt really like XGIMI, JMGO, and Dangbei (at least in my view). I also tested a Valerion VisionMaster 2 Pro, and thatās a solid device tooāand it keeps the spirit of the product experience weāre talking about. I donāt know if this answered your question, but I sure hope so. Thatās my projector story. :)
the horizon 20 max is the brightest projector I ever used in my scenarios. I am one to use a light meter, i admit to having a ALR screen by now in combination with the projector. but the picture is lightyears ahead of the jmgo n1s ultimate what projector do you use on a daily basis?
Everything that youāve typed is true, and this is one of the reasons why you donāt see me frequently recommending the models like Elfin Flip or Flip Plus unless the person is working with a smaller screen size. Ideally, for a more suitable outdoor space, you really need to be in the MoGo 4 Laser, Halo+, and Horizon Series, especially if youāre seeking large image sizes.
Hi there, for your use case models like the MoGo 4 LED or laser, and Halo+ series make the most sense from a portability standpoint. If youāre looking to save a little and drop the battery, the MoGo 3 would also be worth considering as well. If youāre looking for something a little larger, models like the BenQ GV30, GV50 would also be great. JMGO has the Pico Flix and also larger models like the N1 1080P. Epson has the EF-11, EF12, EF22. Lots of choices in the space as we can see. Really just narrows down to whatās important to you.
Hey! So I ended up going for the Mogo 4 laser so maybe we can compare our experiences. Itās also my first projector. Image quality for movies is extremely crisp and high quality. The colors and contrasts are absolutely awesome. For the screen size there a huge difference between say 130in vs 120 and lower. You really feel like the limit is at 120 and I even put it at 100in because having a sharper image on what is still a big screen feels like the better compromise here. The sound lacks some bass but overall itās fine. I would absolutely not feeling like Iām missing out if thatās all I had if I bring it at a friends day. Iām planning on using my good Bluetooth speaker next time I try. I heard the gv is better on that front! Gaming is fine, the delay is supposed to be 10-20ms and I notice it more than I thought I would, but Iām pretty sensitive to delay as Iām used to my powerful pc at 144hz and less than 1ms latency. I also use it as a huge second monitor for work above my workspace because I need to look at a lot of things at once and I was tired of going through tabs. The image isnāt as crisp as Iād hoped for small text and a lot of small details cramped into a huge screen. I see a lot of laser bleeding on that small detail. I think this is due to the fact that Iām sitting a lot closer to the screen than you would if youāre watching a movie (my desk is against the wall and itās projecting above my computer screen). But honestly itās doing the job really well. I have no reference point unfortunately but I assume that I would need a 4K projector to see an improvement on that front. Iām sorry youāre struggling with the software itās ultimately what made me not pick the gv. On that end itās not an issue with the Mogo itās as quick and responsive as my nvidia shield android tv. Enjoy! What movies are you planning to watch ont the bigger screen? On my end thereās blade runner 2049 and mad max furiosa and scarface

Valerion
VisionMaster Pro 2
Great picture/gaming, but RBE and no lens shift are dealbreakers.

Epson
Home Cinema 5050UB (V11H930020)
Great value with huge lens shift, but outdated lamp tech and poor HDR.
Epson
Pro Cinema LS12000 4K PRO-UHD Laser Projector
Superb 4K/120Hz gaming and no RBE, but requires calibration.

BenQ
W1070
Budget king, durable with good image, but RBE can be distracting.

BenQ
HT2060
Excellent 1080p contrast and quiet gaming, but low brightness for big screens.

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Valerion - VisionMaster Pro 2

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Epson - Home Cinema 5050UB (V11H930020)

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Hisense - Laser TV PX3-PRO

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Anker - NEBULA X1 4K Triple Laser Projector (D2351)

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BenQ - GV50 Portable Projector

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Anker - Mars 3 Air