7Hz - Timeless AE (AngelEars)

While I don't currently commute much, if I'm going somewhere on public transport, I find that I prefer a more v-shaped tuning than usual, with a strong bass especially. I think maybe it helps with background noise, but also in general I prefer a more energetic sort of sound if I'm out and about. My current go-to is the Ikko OH10. I've been looking for an endgame for this use-case and so far, the OH10 is the closest, but not quite perfect. It could do with a couple more dB of bass (without EQ) and a touch less stridency in the treble. I will say though, it's pretty easy to make the OH10 perfect with EQ, it's just something I don't like doing because I'm always listening to different stuff and it's a pain to manage profiles. Plus it encourages never-ending tinkering and tip rolling is bad enough as it is. Some things I was hoping would unseat the OH10 but have not done so include the Aful Explorer and FatFreq Deuce. Some warm/bassy IEMs that I don't like as much for travelling are the QKZ HBB and Letshuoer S08, despite being my #3 and #2 IEMs overall, respectively. The HBB is too laid back. The S08 is let down by its bass, which can be a bit boxy at the best of times, but this gets exaggerated quite a lot when travelling, especially on buses. The Timeless AE is an interesting one in that it sounds perfect for walking around, but as soon as I get on a bus, it suddenly sounds like it has no bass. Been meaning to write a separate post about that one. I think there's something about "planar bass" and acoustic impedance going on there; something to do with the engine noise/vibration from buses. The same thing does not happen with DD bass drivers, regardless of whether they are midbass or subbass focused. I haven't had a chance to compare the Timeless AE, Ikko OH10 and Moondrop Kato on a train, but for a long time the Kato was my go-to for long train journeys. I find the OH10 is a bit ahead of the Kato for bus trips, as it's more v-shaped. I think if I'm going to spend 2-4 hours on a train, I'll still prefer the Kato. I'll also mention my favourite IEM overall which is the Simgot EA1000. It works for everything including travelling, but the Kato and OH10 are both warmer/bassier so those are what I'd normally go to for travelling. If I were travelling, staying hotels, etc., and wanted to take a single IEM for everything, it would be the EA1000.

EA1000 is my favourite IEM at any price, that I've heard so far. It's a very good driver, which easily competes with planars like the Timeless & S12 Pro as far as resolution goes, but it has better timbre. The quality of the treble is about 90-95% as good as the Variations, which probably has the best treble under $1000. I haven't heard the Timeless 2, but I have the Timeless AE. Haven't seen any comparisons, but I suspect the T2 is very similar to the AE. The [graph](https://audioamigo.squig.link/?share=7Hz_Timeless_AE,7Hz_Timeless_2_Gold_STD) looks nearly identical. The AE is quite bassy, mainly sub-bass focused, so is good for electronic music. A bit less spicy than the S12 Pro, but still very much from that generation of planars with similar planar timbre etc. It's maybe 5% better than the S12 Pro, for double the price. The EA1000 has a bit less sub-bass, but it has really exceptional midbass and makes acoustic drums sound more real than any other IEM I've heard. I don't know if you've heard the original EA500, the EA1000 is basically that, but more refined, less spicy treble, a bit better timbre (which is already pretty good) and better bass quality. I didn't really like the LM compared to the original. The extra sub-bass ruined the soundstage and masked a lot of the ultra-detailed sound the OG has. The EA500 actually sounds slightly bigger and has sharper imaging because it has so much extra treble. The EA1000 is still about 95% of the stage size & imaging precision, but much smoother and more natural sounding. I did some experimentation with the LM while I had it, but nothing I did could make it have the same magic as the OG, so I ended up returning it. The only thing I would change about the EA1000 is it has a Harman-like cool-tilted midrange, so male vocals can be missing some huskiness compared to some warmer IEMs. It's not a true Harman tuning though, because it doesn't have the midbass tuck. I haven't heard the ET142 so I can't compare, ~~but I did check a few reviews of it before and it sounds like the treble is a bit harsher than the EA1000, because of the PZT. That was the thing that put me off trying it.~~ Edit: It wasn't the PZT, it was something else, but I can't remember why I wrote this one off. In fact, most of the trustworthy reviews (Paul Wasabii, Audio Amigo, HBB's updated review) are very positive about it and it has a more S08-like treble tuning with some of the nozzles (which is a good thing).

I don't know where the ET142 sits in that order but I'd put the EA1000 ahead of the Timeless - at least the AE. The main difference I think is going to be in the bass. The bass on planars is generally more resolving, but less punchy. So if you have for example a bass guitar and kick drum playing, the planar will make the separation between them more obvious, but the DD, especially on the EA1000, will have more of that punchy quality to the bass. I especially notice if I'm out walking around or on a bus with the Timeless AE that the bass loses even more of its impact because it gets drowned out by e.g., the bus engine noise & vibrations. Whereas on my DD IEMs, the bass continues to cut through any background sounds. On the planars it sounds almost like the tuning has changed, but with the DD it doesn't. In terms of bass quality overall, the EA1000 is definitely better & more realistic sounding for acoustic music. The deeper rumbly sub-bass on the Timeless can be better for some electronic music. Most recording don't have much sub-bass at all. I would imagine that the bass performance of the ET142 will be fairly similar to other planars like the Timeless, the S12 Pro and Artti T10, as it's the same sort of driver and these effects are pretty similar for all of them.

7hz Timeless AE for me.

I use the 7Hz Timeless AE with 3rd party cable although it was a pricey purchase, I play a lot in bed on my side and due to it being round and flat, it doesn't hurt and push into my ear like other wired and wireless earbuds. I'm not an audiophile so don't ask me about sound.

I'm not familiar with these but I've been happy with the 7hz timeless ae

I bought the Tangzu Heyday and 7hz Timeless AE at the same time for a great price, but It was the ewuivalent of a month salary for me. No regrets, they are my actual endgame on iems. Also, the Tempotec V6 DAP. Researched a Lot, bought one, never looked back

The in ear that made me fala in love with headphones in general was the Philips SHE 9000. I had an Xperia Phone back then and I had a blast with those. First pair of proper iems were the KZ ZSN pro with the meizu HiFi Dac, mindblowing for the time. A While later I got the Moondrop Aria that made the KZ sound like trash and Just a bit after I got the 7hz Dioko that made the Aria sound like a muffled boomy mess too. And that went on for a While until I got to the Tangzu Heyday and 7hz Timeless AE. Now I have my endgame but I still collect cheaper iems.

Very willing to EQ. I'm currently using the 7hz Timeless AEs and they're pretty good but they just don't have that bass punch/slam. I saw DucBloke's video on EQing the Deuce and he raised the midbass frequencies quite a bit and said that after EQ they had 9.5/10 slam, which is the main reason I'm even considering the Deuce in the first place.

Se tu comparar o gráfico no squiglink você irá ver a diferença entre o Timeless AE e o Zero Red, pô, não tem como tu chamar o Timeless AE de neutro, o Heyday possui bem menos graves que o Red e o Timeless, bem menos mesmo, sua fonte deve estar zoando seus fones

Faz sentido, gráfico não representa um fone bem mesmo, o Timeless AE e o Heyday usam o mesmo driver, soam parecidos, mas iguais nunca, ele forma tunados de formas diferentes, mas cada experiência é única e cada ouvido também, cada experiência é única mesmo

Timeless AE like new on amazon.. got it for $145 before tax. It was uncomfortable for me, I tried memory foam tips and the same, so I tried spinfit's W1 and bam, all of a sudden a new sticky seal + comfort. Makes me wonder how many IEMs get returned not because of the IEMs themselves but because poor fit on tips. I also tried out the IE 200, good comfort, but compared to the Timeless AE they are detail lacking. If I never owned the Timeless AE the IE 200 would be great especially at the amazon current price of $120.00. IE 200 has good bass once you tape mod the hole. I would recommend the IE 200 especially if you want to jog in them.. Timeless are just too far out there you can feel the tiny bounces.

Timeless or the AE version for extra bass.

Jesus, I just got the Mest MKII, haven’t finished figuring out tips yet, but my general impression is they are very good, but I find more enjoyment from my Timeless. Surprised that was the case, thought maybe I was crazy, but good seeing someone else with the same impression. The Timeless with Dunu S&S tips just have this level of separation and speed that is in its own class. The shocking thing is that so far the Mest does not match the separation, maybe I need the right tips. But the notes are thicker and mids are better. Slightly more rumble.

I went from the Timeless to the S12 to the Artti T10 and I honestly prefer the T10 for metal. They're all very similar, but luckily I like the cheapest one the best.

EQ settings are relative to frequency response. It's like asking how much should I add salt to fries without the information if they're already saltes. The question is what kind of a tuning is ideal for metal and as a metalhead at least in my youth I find that a very interesting question. Preferences matter a lot as well and someone who loves the sound of one IEM maybe just hasn't heard something better yet and can't imagine what the improvement might be. The best tuning for metal I've heard so far with maybe fifty IEMs and some EQ on top was Oluv's mainstream preset for the Free Pro 2's. Really fun yet clean bass and you could push the volume really high without any fatigue etc. Gave me chills with a lot of metal music. With IEMs I have to say I haven't found anything excellent yet and actually KZ Libra (balanced) is easily on of the best for that and costs $10. The bass is pronounced, but much cleaner than the measurements seem to imply. The straight rising bass boost might be the reason instead of a bass shelf. Old but gold would be a Tin Hifi T2 Plus as it really pushes vocals pleasantly forward and has that big energetic feel to it. Not detailed etc at all, but really enjoyable. IEMs I love otherwise like Zero Red, Hexa, MP145, Timeless, B2 Dusk, Dusk DSP just don't impress me at all with metal specifically and I would take the Libra over probably all of them for that. You can make an EQ preset for the Chu to match KZ Libra on the AutoEQ website and elsewhere. Give it a try if you want.

I was genuinely baffled in not just music but in games as well with my 7hz timeless iems, never going back

I tried TheAudio Monarch and Oracle (don't remember Mk numbers) some time ago and wasn't impressed really. The do sound good, and have good technicalities but nowhere near the headphones at this price (Arya or LCD-2C) or substantially better than good quality $200-300 planar IEMs. Tonality is different but that's taste more than anything else. Timeless (1 or 2) is where IEM peaks for me personally, and diminishing return is hitting hard after that. At least based on my hearing abilities.

This is legit... I loved my timeless but the tea pros make the timeless sound like an old fm radio station.

Sorry a $200 iem is nowhere near a really good one at a higher price. I've had the timeless and my clairvoyance, and it's not even close.