Apevoix - Grit

I discovered the apevoix Grit recently. Bulky AF but it feels like a genuine "next level in every way" step up from the em6l. Including stage and imaging and separation. How they're $220 and not $800 is beyond me. Even the obscenely perfect 3d printed box it comes in is just unreasonably premium. And they're pretty easy to drive too.

I think the tiers that really went "oh that was a definite bump in quality" is listening to the moondrop chu 2, then something like the simgot em6l, and the the apevoix Grit. Each one was just a clear improvement in better detail, more resolving, better dynamics and soundstage, etc. But honestly I have multi thousand dollar over ear headphones and after I got the Grit.... I don't know if there's really a better sounding iem under like 7 or 800 bucks. It definitely pegged the price to performance as far as it goes.

another under rated one are the apeviox grit, they are just over like $150 but given youve got a budget around $360, id say either the Arul 5+2 or the tea pro both incredible for the money

they are good for music too, only thing id say is the shape and nozzle might not be comfy for everyone

Best for Bone conduction would be the Fan3s. Top BC IEM under $400 period, as I've tried all BCs under $400, this one has the best detail to fun combo.

all those good stuff are very limited production from small brands(only cheaper stuff gets made a lot), I'd suggest new Apevoix Grit at $229 as by far the best value from good midrange ones, if you go down from there in price you get way worse sound quality, it's not that much worse for gaming but it's worse for gaming too, $89 Kefine Delci AE for example($150 simgot supermix4 is bit better for music but same for gaming basically)

they are good but I wouldn't take them over Intuaura Splendor II(I bought these for $10 more) and everyone who tried them says Grit is even better for $30 less

Out of these Orchestra Lite by far, other 3 are comparable to $30 Tripowin Vivace when it comes to gaming and get blown out of the water by $89 Kefine Delci AE you should get Truthear Volume S but you could also take a look at Intuaura Splendor II, Apevoix Grit, Yanyin Cannon, Ziigaat Arete, all $350 and under [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9haw33NhPto](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9haw33NhPto)

I think for your gaming needs the Grit will do wonder. And you are right about the deuce, it is great for music and movies but the grit might be more immersive for a gaming experience. Its not that deuce drowns out everything for the bass but the Grist with the BCD will just give a more complete and immersive gaming experience IMO

I’m looking to find my hopefully “endgame,” IEM, but I’m experiencing a lot of mixed reviews across many sources. Every time I think I’ve made a decision, I see something that makes me double guess myself. I’m pretty sold on the Mangird Tea Pros, but am also intrigued by the Hype 4’s and Kiwi Ears x HBB Punch. Even something like the AFUL P7’s. I do love bass and my ears can be treble sensitive, as I listen to a lot of EDM and Hip hop, but I listen to pretty much everything. My main use is for competitive gaming and general gaming, and I’m currently using the Ziigaat Arete’s, but want that definitive “endgame,” if there is such a thing. My current collection contains the Arete’s, Apevoix Grit, and EW200’s. Any advice between the Tea Pro’s, Hype 4, Punch, and AFUL’s would be super helpful. TL;DR - looking for endgame IEM’s, between Tea Pro, Hype 4, and P7’s, mainly for gaming but also music.

I have the Grit’s and the Arete’s. My purpose for IEM’s is also gaming, and I’m no audiophile. However, I will say that the Grit’s do have an amazing sound for music. I mainly listen to hip/hop and EDM, with some alt rock and alternative. The bass isn’t exaggerated, or punchy, but it’s very fast and clean, and doesn’t get muddy. And the soundstage is wide. I feel like it’s an IEM that isn’t talked about a whole lot, especially having a bone conductor, in that price range. I will also say that to my ears, they can be a tad uncomfortable with the wrong tips, the nozzle is long and wide, so I’d recommend tip rolling, but again, those are just my ear canals. Because of the bone conductor, if you cough or hit the shell, you will hear the bone conductor “springy-ness” (?), that’s the best way I can describe it. The separation and soundstage are great on both sets. As for the Arete’s, amazing for bass heavy songs if you’re into punchy bass, yet clean and not muddy. My ears are pretty treble sensitive, and neither IEM’s are fatiguing to me, or bright. I try to switch between the 2 for gaming, and always come back to the Arete’s, for sound and comfortably, again comfortably could just be my ear canals. If your main focus is gaming, and you want something that’s “great” for gaming, especially competitive games, even story games, and not better at music, I’d say the Arete’s. If you want something that’s “good” for gaming, but better for music, I’d say go with the Grit’s. Edit: as i’m sure you’re aware, a lot of this is subjective. My ears could hear these IEM’s differently from your ears. But i feel if these 2 are your final choices, you’ll be happy with either. I have prior posts asking similar questions, with comments and good advice you can look thru as well. Good luck, it’s a rabbit hole. And don’t over think it! Just enjoy whatever you end up getting!