MP145

I'm sorry but have you tried the S tips? Because I see why you went with L, but they should be more inside the ear pavillon. It seems that you have small ears, and they are indeed pretty big. The Mp145 are known to be pretty big... The direct competitor would be the Lestshuoer s12 pro in the same price range.

safer tuning versus the more classic bright planar tuning. warm but not dark like s08 size + weight can be a dealbreaker for some though

I'm the same as you. I bought these on Amazon to test out, and love the sound plus the WDC collaboration. They are big and they do stay in my ears, but because they are so thick the connectors end up farther away from the head if that makes sense. This causes the cables to become unhooked more. I end up using the chin slider more on this iem, than on others. I was planning on returning mine since i'm getting the pros, so hopefully they made some improvements on the size. Also, if they're falling out faster with the S&S tips, or any tips, then you most likely are using the wrong size. Regarding DUNU S&S tips, they do run smaller than other tips. e.g., a DUNU S&S size L would be similar to a size MS or M for other brands.

I had purchased the og 145 back in February from Amazon. Loved the sound as they were the first planars I've ever heard. After hearing the announcement of the pros coming to Kickstarter, that's when I backed the campaign and only held onto the og long enough before the return window expired on Amazon. One thing to note with the pros - they didn't have the little foam insert inside like the og did. So I'm sure adding that back in could bring the sound back close to the og if that is what's preferred. I also purchased/returned the S12 Ultra. Also liked these, but returned more because I had to control my spending 😂. I may get them again, just because that mocha color is too nice to pass up.

Ok brother, you made me do it. Just ordered the IM4. Not only that, but of course I had to match so orange Openheart cable also ordered. 😂 Actually just got my MP145 pro as well. I had the og, but returned them after finding out the pro was coming. Agree with the milling on these MP's. 👍

I had purchased the og 145 back in February from Amazon. Loved the sound as they were the first planars I've ever heard. After hearing the announcement of the pros coming to Kickstarter, that's when I backed the campaign and only held onto the og long enough before the return window expired on Amazon. One thing to note with the pros - they didn't have the little foam insert inside like the og did. So I'm sure adding that back in could bring the sound back close to the og if that is what's preferred. I also purchased/returned the S12 Ultra. Also liked these, but returned more because I had to control my spending 😂. I may get them again, just because that mocha color is too nice to pass up.

I used them on a show, I'd say they are pretty decent and solid iems I have used till now.

mp145 pro, its a new release of planar ones and i guess the price lies between $180-190, i tried it on a show and i kid you not it's such a good sound quality iem, you should give it a try if you want to.

Crinear Daybreak. Truthear Nova. AFUL Explorer. Juzear Defiant. Artti T10 Pro. Hidisz MP145 (these are big and chonky though, not for everyone) Ziigaat Arcadia. Wait for sales from 11/11 and BLack Friday. Otherwise you will be paying an inflated price (all of the companies up prices before slashing them. Typical retail bullshit games)

"Soundstage" is purely subjective, and completely based on your ears and your brain. You only have one ear drum. All of the interpretations of height, width, and depth, are estimations by your brain, based upon delays, tone shift, doppler effect, etc. etc. hitting your outer ear, having the sound wave augmented, and then finally making its way into your ear drum, where those are "processed" by your brain, and through your brains understanding of learning through early life, you can pinpoint the location. When you insert an IEM in your ear, NONE of that is happening. You are basically bypassing all of what your brain knows, understands, and interprets as "spatial sound stage", and ignores it. So, your brain does what it does, and tries to make the best sense of it. And takes the delays in the drivers topology, timing, frequency response, and whatever modalities or resonance it might have in your ear, and tries to interpret that as positional audio. And sometimes, its not always right. For example, the EW300's dont work in my ears at ALL. They sound like shit, like they have bad ANC enabled, and im missing half the frequencies, and have no depth, or nuance whatsoever. Most recently, the Kefine Quatio, a set that i really enjoy, gives me a wear sensation that sound is coming from behind and down on certain tones. Yet other IEMs i have, like my MP145's, give me this massive room sensation where the perceived soundstage is almost too big. So, keep in mind that anytime anyone is talking about "soundstage" in an IEM, they should really be calling it "Personal Brain Stage", because it is completely individual, and always anecdotal. Sure, there are some constants that can be applied in the areas of psycho acoustics, and certain basic inferences that can be made with 3D mics, but in general...your ear will hear everything differently than everyone else. Its not a "meme" like some ignorant reviewers like to call it, but it is unique to the listener, and cant really be given a broad one size fits most approach to how people will hear it.

SpinFit CP155 or TRI Clarion, or Azla Sedna Earfit Origin are three good choices to get a deeper fit on the MP145. The Large nozzles and shell size serve to make fitment difficult for many people.

Divine or MP145 Pro if you want Timbre Accuracy. But, remember that full range Planars are inherently colored in one way or another.

Same case with me. I liked the sound quality, couldn't get a good fit with these

I'm definitely loving this set.