OH10 Obsidian

Ikko oh10 obsidian are a nice/fun set

Have you tried just adding a bass shelf with EQ? IME most basshead IEMs aren't actually really basshead without EQ anyway. Even something like the FatFreq Deuce needs the impedance adaptor to become true basshead, and I still don't find that as good as my Ikko OH10+10dB bass shelf (Harman standard settings). In terms of tips, I'd suggest trying Penon Liqueur Orange for the maximum amount of bass, although they're probably not going to add much over Kiwi Ears Flex, which is already pretty bassy (especially for a vented tip). And for that matter Divinus Velvet aren't too far behind either, though I do fairly consistently get a bit more bass with Liqueurs than those. The problem I have with the Flex tips is they're very springy and non-grippy, so they just push themselves out of my ear while making a squeaking noise for about 60 seconds. You also might find Faaeal H570 tips good for sub-bass specifically because I usually find they don't produce the same total amount of bass as Penon Liqueur, but they have a bit more extension into the *really low* sub-bass than other tips. But I'm really talking about doing frequency sweeps below 10Hz here. There's almost no content that low in actual music because it's typically high-passed at 20Hz to avoid intermodulation distortion. In most cases, having more of a boost around 50Hz is going to sound more sub-bassy than having more extension below 10Hz.

Since OP is creating duplicate threads in multiple subs, I'm not going to re-type my answer from the other thread, but I wrote a bit there about how the OH10 actually sounds: https://old.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/1kn3cdz/discussion_thread_which_iems_disappointed_you_the/msf76yf/ It does have very high quality bass, which seems to get conflated with "lots of bass". But also it can produce monstrous amounts of clean bass if you add a bass shelf with EQ. So can a lot of IEMs of course, but it perhaps stands out for being really easy to do and you can push it a long way before before there's any loss of bass quality. I spent a lot of time comparing the OH10 with EQ to the FatFreq Deuce with the impedance adaptor, and if you like midbass, it's a lot easier to EQ the OH10 to have more bass than the Deuce, than it is to EQ away the Harman tuck from the Deuce. FWIW the OH10 is very frequently recommended as a basshead IEM. It's certainly bassier than average, but that has more to do with the fact most IEMs don't have insane amounts of bass like consumer-tuned headphones & earphones, such as Beats, Sony, Skullcandy, etc. And most of the really bassy ones like the Legato end up sounding muddy, so you still have to EQ if you want both quantity and quality of bass.

If you want *clean* bass stay away from the Fudu and the Legato. They're both quite muddy. The cleanest sounding one I have is the Ikko OH10, but I suspect some of the newer hybrids like the Ziigaat whichever-one-is-the-bassy-one might be as good or better. The OH10 certainly isn't perfect & has a bit of a coherency mismatch between the slower bass driver and faster BA, although that seems to improve over time (maybe driver run-in is real, maybe it's something else). You also have the Aful Explorer which is very good in the bass and treble, but I find that it makes vocals sound a bit muffled and sibilant at the same time, due to the reduced eargain, with relatively more 5kHz than 2-3kHz. That's the kind of thing that can sometimes be fixed with eartips and they might match your HRTF better than mine, but I tried just about all 50 tips in my collection and couldn't get them sounding right. Probably the best option if you do get a good HRTF match though, as they're technically excellent - just the eargain tuning does not work for me at all. Also if you like the EW200 you could try the EA500LM. It's pretty much a direct upgrade: similar tuning but much better driver & shell.

There's quite a broad range. For example: * Aful MagicOne - pretty, but not overdone * Ikko OH10 - good looking, nature-based & reserved * 7Hz Timeless, Timeless AE, Simgot EA500 - minimalist * Tin C2, Dunu Titan S (black/red version), Truthear Hexa/Pure - industrial There's a whole load in the middle that are just random swirly colours which has become the default low-effort design. Something like the Thieaudio Legacy 2 does that well IMO because its just one colour with a bit of texture, not all the colours, all at once. If you want a plain black cable, look at the KBear ST12. There's lots of options out there. I notice the stock cables often don't match the IEMs very well, and intentionally or not, this most likely helps sell a lot of aftermarket cables.

Ikko OH10 if you can find one for sale anywhere. They're still making them, but only in smallish batches, so there's often no stock. There's also the OH10S which is apparently tuned almost identically (I haven't heard it because there didn't seem to be much point in buying nearly identical IEM) with the main difference being the faceplate design. There are a few newer hybrids that are apparently quite good as well such as the Ziigaat Doscinco, but I haven't heard it myself. Audio Amigo has a good roundup of all the Ziigaats which is worth watching, as there's a ridiculous number of them, all with fairly similar tunings. Might be slightly outside your budget unless there's a sale though (which there very often is). On the cheaper side the Aful Explorer isn't bad either, although it's mostly a softer, very warm tuning and doesn't have the same sort of weighty bass punch as the OH10. Also I find vocals on the Explorer very sibilant, but not everyone seems to get that problem. Personally with the exception of build quality & comfort, I actually prefer the QKZ HBB over the Explorer and it's warmer & bassier too. And it's only $15. Out of the 3, the HBB is the best for volume scaling before the treble gets too intense (without EQ). The Explorer is a bit more resolving though.

Depends what mood I'm in. Want warm, bassy & relaxed for mostly background listening? QKZ HBB. What warm, bassy & cosy but more focused on the music? Ikko OH300. Out for a walk? Ikko OH10. Out for a walk but want a more neutral sound? Moondrop Kato. Want less bass & lots of resolution? Stellaris. Want the most "realistic" sound possible? Simgot EA1000. And so on... I've got a lot of IEMs that I don't listen to that often. Some of those are just not very good but are too cheap to be worth selling. Some are good but not part of my core set, so I'll maybe listen to one of those now and then to mix things up a bit. I don't really do "genre-specific" IEMs because the mastering of individual albums can make a bigger difference than genres. But if I mainly want to listen to metal, I'll almost always get the EA1000 just because it's so much better than any other IEM for several things that come up a lot in rock, metal, prog, etc. If I'm in the mood for hip hop there's a very good chance I'll get the Dunu Titan S, but that's also more mood-specific and I might want something bassier. Even these "genre-specific" cases are more mood-specific anyway; just because I'm in the mood to listen to metal doesn't mean I'm exclusively only going to listen to metal, nor am I going to put Spotify on shuffle then change IEMs depending on what track comes on.

I don't go based on artist/genre so much as the overall presentation that I feel like at the time (which might also push me to listen to certain genres more than others, but not always). These days I listen to random playlists more often that specific albums, so I'm not a "this headphone for this album" sort of person. Generally if I'm going for a walk somewhere I'll pick up one, or if I want to just listen to music for a bit, I'll pick one. I won't normally change during a listening session unless I'm specifically A/B comparing them, or if I thought I was in the mood for a particular style and then realise I was wrong and swap over to something else. Occasionally I might hear something in a particular track and think "I wonder what that sounds like on such-and-such", but I keep a bunch of headphone-specific playlists so that I can just bookmark it for later. Although occasionally I will just want to hear how it sounds *right now*. The ones I'm listening to the most lately are: * QKZ HBB - these are mainly what I listen to when I'm doing something else; they have a similar warm, "wrapped in cotton wool" type of sound with recessed vocals that help to make them less distracting at lower volumes. * Ikko OH300^[1] - similar sort of warmth to the HBB, but also vocal-forward with incredible depth/layering - very relaxing but also engaging if I want to get fully absorbed into the music. * Aful MagicOne - another good one for relaxing, but more midrange focused without the bass of the HBB/OH300. I don't grab this one as often, but it's pretty unique. I'd probably listen to it a lot more if it was vented, but it doesn't bother me as much as my other unvented IEMs. * Moondrop Stellaris^[2] - Quite open and airy sounding with incredibly detailed treble and extremely linear bass, which just stays out of the way when it's not called for, and incredibly forceful when it needs to be. There is a bit of shout, but I don't really mind it and it's nowhere near as bad as they graph. Where the OH300 is for getting absorbed into the music, these are for getting absorbed into the overall soundscape, space and texture of the instruments, if that makes sense. You could call them analytical, but certainly not clinical. * Ikko OH10 - these are my main "walking around" IEM because the v-shape that combines deep, rounded bass with some good treble clarity makes them ideal for blocking outside noise. They're also incredibly comfortable. * Moondrop Kato - another mainly "out and about" IEM but they're slightly more neutral than the OH10, so I prefer these for longer trips on trains etc. They're probably the best "all rounder" IEM I have; can listen to them anytime, anywhere. I've also been listening to them more generally, since I started using my Shanling M0 Pro as my main DAC/amp instead of the Fiio BTR7. The BTR7 is a bit warm in a way that really completements the OH10, but the M0 Pro makes the Kato sound a lot cleaner. It's a really tiny difference, but it's enough to notice. Also the Simgot EA1000 remains my overall favourite IEM, but it's kind of similar to the Stellaris in a lot of ways with pretty different style of bass. There might be some recency bias that's making me grab the Stellaris more often lately. Both of them fall into the category of IEMs that can do certain things no other IEM/headphone can do (at least none that I've heard so far). ^[1] I'm not sure if the OH300 has been discontinued. I'd be recommending it to everyone if it wasn't sold out. Sounds incredible for ~$45 and it's mostly replaced the Letshuoer S08 for me (they have a lot of similarities, but the OH300 has better bass and the slight technical downgrades are barely noticeable). They dropped off Aliexpress a couple of months ago. I managed to grab a spare before all the stock disappeared from the Ikko website, but they're gone now. It now says "coming soon", so it might just be that they produce them in small batches and more will be available in the future. Not sure. ^[2] The Stellaris completely changed for me with Dunu Candy tips and quickly became one of my favourite IEMs. With most tips they are bright like a thousand suns and quite fatiguing. IDK if they'll work for everyone, so I don't recommend going out and buying a Stellaris (if you can find one: they're discontinued) but if you have one and have Candy tips lying around, I *highly* recommend giving them a try (and also let me know how it goes!)

Ikko OH10 for a classier waifu. SeeAudio Rinko (if you can find one, as it's discontinued) for less classy waifu (also 2 waifu for the price of 1). Also this might help, although many of these are discontinued now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU6E0xDMSUw

Think this is right. I purchased the OH10 a couple years ago and I believe I had the impression it was one of the kings of bass at the time based on reviews I had watched. It IS bassier than my Starfield and Final A4000 so I still think of it as being specialized in bass to this day. But I haven’t tried any others to compare it to that have more bass than it on graphs, so idk what I’m missing out on if the OH10 isn’t, in fact, one of the bass kings.

So I’m assuming you’ve heard it too and not just going off graphs? Would you classify it as having good quality bass then, but just not high in amount? I’ve always wanted to love it more than I do. I love it’s physical look/feel and while I do mostly like them overall, I just don’t find myself reaching for them as much as my others. Never quite found the right use case for them (except playing Battlefield… they hit right for me playing that game for various reasons). One of my next buys might be something like HBB Punch or Ziigaat Doscinco to see how another “bassy” set compares.

Ikko OH10 obsidian. An older one but still one of the prettiest I’ve ever owned.

https://preview.redd.it/msyf8i73nw0f1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=4ec8e99ff99587c9e05030149aae59a2ceb7f9fb Please note: IEM preferences are **personal**. What you dislike might be someone else's favorite. Keep it respectful! # 🧵 I'll start: **IKKO OH10 Obsidian**, the supposed *"Bass Monster"*. Purchased them, but they sadly turned out to sound **muddy and bloated** for my ears. Not as bassy as expected, even after trying different tips. Then... the left earpiece just **died randomly** about a year later. # 👇 How about you?

trn shell, kinera freya (2.0 is great also), ikko oh10 obsidian, shozy magma, tangzu nesha and tianpeng. its in no particular order but freya takes the cake by far.

trn shell, kinera freya (2.0 is great also), ikko oh10 obsidian, shozy magma, tangzu nesha and tianpeng. its in no particular order but freya takes the cake by far.

The Explorer could potentially be a good match eith its very warm and lush signature, but it might be too relaxed for your clarity as a key feature. The OH10 is also a very good IEM and might be worth a second listen to. What are return policies like do you can make one or two blind buys and still get your money back if it isn’t what you’re looking for?