Kiwi Ears - Orchestra Lite

Congrats! I got mine a week ago, blown away by their "gaming" performance. I've run EM6L, Orchestra Lite and Splendor II before, but these are in another league for me.

I would disagree, based on my experience. But as always, it is very personal when it comes to comfort of IEMs. For me the Orchestra Lites were much more "physically fatiguing" for the ear canal. I use the Tangzu Tang Sancai eartips on mine.

For me there is a significant difference between these and the Lites in terms of "directionality". But once again, sound (and IEMs) are extremely personal, so you may perceive it differently. I'd say that if you are running the Lites already, and can't find someone that has these so you can test them before buy, keep rocking them Lites and wait for what might come next in terms of IEM evolution.

Got iem's late last year and haven't gone back to regular over the ear headphones. Once you get used to them they're much better imo. Plus not having bulky headphones on your head is much more comfortable and the sound is a lot better too. I started if with a pair of kz's, then got a pair of moondrop aria's and now I have the kiwi ears orchestra light's.

I honestly didn’t notice a sizable jump until I heard the $250 Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lites but there’s newer IEMs than it, I’m personally waiting for the Aful Performer 5+2s to come in the mail. An alternative if you don’t want to drop ~$200+, grab the Eletech Boutique eartips and try swapping eartips out. I have an issue with the default AirPod tips slipping out.

I haven't tried those but I do have the Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite and those are touted as having wide soundstage and the Tea Pros sound more wide than those to my ears.

I've never tried the Blessing 3 so I don't want to comment regarding them. The Tea Pro is an excellent IEM. It has excellent imaging and good sound stage for an IEM. I've tried quite a few IEMs thanks to Amazon's return policy in the US. I do own these IEMs: Kiwi Orchestra Lite and Quintet Raptgo x HBB Hook Aful Performer 5 The Tea Pro is by far the best IEM I've tried.

I went from the EM6L > Kiwi Ears Quintet > Orchestra Lite > Tea Pro > Monarch MK3. I head a difference with every step up. I prefer the Quintet over the Tea Pro because the Tea Pro treble is darker and smoother and sounds less detailed imo. The Monarch MK3 is just absolutely amazing imo. I hear details in songs I've never heard before. The detail in every aspect is just amazing, and they're fun to listen to. They also do some black magic with soundstage and imaging. The MK3 sounds bigger than some openback headphones I've owned.

Amps are nice but for items absolutely not required, you can get a small dongle sac but beyond that, sound improvement really is marginal at best. They will give you more power to get more volume but depending on the items the port on the controller should be more than enough. At that price point I'd be looking at the dunu da Vinci, kiwiears orchestra lite, softears volume or if you can stretch your budget a bit more, the moondrop dusks.

Kiwi Ears Orchestra lite, excessively smooth, dark, blunted and low res. Sounds very cheap.

I've had unvented all BA IEMs before, like the Moondrop S8, Ibasso AM05, Tansio Mirai TSMR 3 Pro, and they all sound great/fine. Orchestra Lite just sounds so dull and blunt to my ears. Pressure build up doesn't bother me as much, especially when I use Tangzu's san cai tips.

They are very good but they are unvented, which is the thing that stops me listening to mine more often. Very resolving and very neutral tuning, although they do lack sub-bass extension.

That sounds like a problem because of it being unvented. I have one and it's probably my favourite tuning of any IEM (although it could do with some sub-bass). But I rarely listen to them, because it's such a pain to get the air pressure to equalise. And if it's not exactly right, they sound very wrong and can have a huge channel imbalance if one side is at a slightly different pressure than the other. None of the words you use are how I would describe it when it sounds right. But getting them to sound right, and continue doing so after moving around, can be more trouble than it's worth. It's put me off buying another all-BA set. I'm going to stick to hybrids with proper venting in the future.

Not sure if it’s in your budget, but I play COD and got the Kiwi Orchestra Lites. Best purchase ever. Can detect the exactly where people come from

I love my Kiwi OL's, but have been looking at the Tea Pros. What did you like about these? Do the Tea Pros also isolate noise as well as the OL's?

Another vote for Orchestra Lite. Just be aware they are unvented and cause pressure problems in some people's ears.

he caps a bit on them because they're his collab, objectively $10 more expensive Splendor II are a bit better, they have better layering, it's easier to tell distance with them, directionality and everything else are just as good on both, I'd also give a slight edge to Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite, don't know what it is but it just feels a bit better. Arete are still very good and should objectively be near the top of B+ tier, just under Orchestra Lite but above S12 2024 right where the Yanyin Cannon also is, but that's $100 more, so it's good place to be tbh.

trash for monitoring, mediocre at best for music listening too, if you want something good for all of that you are not getting it for $200, you can get good for music + gaming but not for monitoring, maybe if you can stretch your budget a bit you can get good for gaming and monitoring but meh for music with kiwi ears orchestra lite at 249 msrp but they go for 210-215 on sale

Out of these Orchestra Lite by far, other 3 are comparable to $30 Tripowin Vivace when it comes to gaming and get blown out of the water by $89 Kefine Delci AE you should get Truthear Volume S but you could also take a look at Intuaura Splendor II, Apevoix Grit, Yanyin Cannon, Ziigaat Arete, all $350 and under [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9haw33NhPto](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9haw33NhPto)

friends FiiO FA19, he got them for Counter Strike but they work in every title basically, it's not one of those headphones/IEM that are just wide(you don't need a lot of depth for Counter Strike, Valorant, games like that) edit:/ if you want best comfort and still good for gaming I'd say getting a custom Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite is best option, usually all of the good stuff for gaming are rly bulky, 64 Audio Volur, FiiO FA19, Xenns Mangird Top, Xenns Mangird Tea Pro and Top, Thieaudio Monarch MKIII, they all have bunch of drivers, Orchestra Lites do too but they got only small BA drivers no big drivers alongside it and CIEM version is molded to your ear so you get perfect comfort edit#2:/ I personally use Intuaura Splendor II, it's a single DD(tiny and super light to most stuff good for gaming) with some might say too much venting, isolation is dogshit but love them, I put them on with some Dunu or FiiO foam tips and they disappear in my ear, can wear them for 10+ hours straight

upgrades similar to hexa I'd look into: tri i3 mk3, epz p50, kiwi ears orchestra lite, letshuoer cadenza 4, softears studio 4, elysian pilgrim

Pressure can be a pain for the Orchestra Lite on longer gaming sessions plus imo they r a bit too big and heavy. I am testing the OL and Aful 5+2 right now and leaning toward the Aful. For the OL definitely get different tips. Waiting on the Hype 4 and I will make my decision on which to keep!

They sounds great and i game a lot as well mainly fps. Definitely would pick Aful over OL due to comfort and size. If u can def try both since sound can be very subjective but I believe most people would agree the Ol is not very comfortable!

Depends on price budget. When you say neutral, its going to have way less bass/sub bass than the APP2s. And "exciting" sorta contradicts neutral. Neutral suggestions: Hexas, Supermix 4, Ziggat Lush, Orchestra Lite

I use Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lites and ZiiGaat x Fresh Reviews Aretes… am I gaming wrong?

Kiwi ears orchestra lites as you said you have medium to large sized ears. They’re extremely comfortable and you can get tangzu sancai narrow bore tips to remove any vacuum sensation as they are non vented iems.

My Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lites legit sound better than my Hifiman Aryas and HD800s idk why

i use the kiwi ears orchestra lites. i love em, mainly used for competitive fps and hardcore games

I recently bought Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lites and they’re amazing all-rounders. I mostly use them for gaming and playing music. They excel at both.

Hard disagree with (1), Softears Studio 4 is such a set, Kiwi Ear Orchestra Lite is also a pretty damn good one too. Hard agree with (6).

Used to use arctis nova pro with the smiley eq on dac now I use iems , kiwi ears orchestra lite and fiio k11 R2R with a wave xlr and shure mic

Kiwi Ear lites IEMs and I swapped out the tips for the vortex tips. I wear them for 15+ hours a day for both work and then gaming no issues. IEMs are the way to game and I’ll never go back to headsets

i just got a pair of orchestra lites myself. What dac amp would you recommend for under 200 to run them through to make the sound quality a little better. I used to use Astro A40s so it feels like a bit of a downgrade rn just with base sound quality however to my understanding IEMS really shine with a dac AMP

would you say my experience with the kiwi orchestra lights will be much better with a desktop unit or if I am kind of put off by them now would it not be worth it. I want to give them a chance because I've wanted iems instead of headphones for a while but I'm just unsure.

Maybe try some cheaper sets until you figure out what's causing it. I just got my kiwiears orchestra lites a few hours ago and the fit for me is very good. my ears seem to work well with most IEMs though.

Not really. I haven't got a set I don't like. My current favorites are the dusk, dunu braindance, kiwiears aether, and kiwiears orchestra lite.

I’ve had the green ones for a couple months now, I still find myself just looking at them sometimes. Lol

Bro. I've been using these IEMs for months now, and I just discovered I plugged them in on wrong sides, thanks to googling how to improve the sound and finding your comment. Wow I am an idiot, and wow you are a legend. Cheers.

They were great when I had them. But I had to return 2 pairs back to back within a day of having each pair bc they both came with driver issues. I also found the non vented shell uncomfortable. They are undeniably pretty tho

Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite! I prefer the orange color the most, but all of them are absolutely beautiful. I’m a sucker for resin made IEMs. They’re just so beautiful and the fact that they’re crystal clear and something I never even noticed on the BA for the highs Kiwi Ears is even printed on it inside the IEM. https://preview.redd.it/od5kg2jtyzbe1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a652d327aface6ac83d1a31db3dfab822e129f6f

jks has the best iems i think. He's used Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite, Letshuoer S12, Ziigaat Arete and now Ziigaat Odyssey. Edit: He is a follower of Fresh Reviews on Twitter

Hi. Generally you don’t need an amp with IEMs. An apple dongle will be just fine for almost any situation. You might end up like me that the volume steps will be too large on your phone. I bought a dongle dack with physical volume controls, but it was more of a feature thing than SQ issue. I causually game on a PS5 with the “edge” controller and it’s 3.5mm port is more than capable of driving all my iems. With my orchestra lite it hisses however so I had to use an adapter which solves the issue. My other IEMs do not hiss when directly connected to the port. What you should choose depends on what your priorities and tuning preferences are. I’ve tried all my IEMs for gaming and when playing competitive shooters, their characteristics highly influence how easy it is to accurately pinpoint the direction of audio clues, like footsteps. If you dont play shooters, how immersive the IEMs will be will be mostly a tuning thing. If they are close to your taste they will be good! I own the trutheat Zero Blue, which is quite good for gaming alone, but for music it has it’s limitations. Not that it’s bad - but with complex music I find their midrange to be not cear enough. My Orchestra Lite is better when gaming - and also much better for music. Again, it’s tuning makes it ever-so-slightly bass shy for some parts of my music library, so I kept on looking. My latest purchase - the Tea Pro’s seem to be a great allrounder. They do well with all kinds of music for me. I don’t feel I’m missing on anything, and they are quite good for shooters. You can clearly pick out the audio clues and tell their direction with pinpoint accuracy. The PS5 controller drives them fine.

Only iem I've tried in that price range and it's the kiwi ears orchestra lites and I recommend them. Above that the xenns mangird tea pro. That being said this youtube has a lot of iems you could demo. https://m.youtube.com/@GlennGaneAudio

Haven't tried many in the price range but I would say the Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite. Vocals sound phenomenal on them and I'm not much of a bass head so I wasn't bothered by the fact that it's not bassy. I like u shaped and balanced tunings.

Kiwi ears orchestra lites and even though I liked them I returned them and got the xenns mangird tea pro since fresh reviews said they were better for gaming.

Tea Pro or Top Dusk Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite I love the Tanchjim Origin too but it's more of a vocal centric IEM