Kiwi Ears - Orchestra Lite

I honestly didn’t notice a sizable jump until I heard the $250 Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lites but there’s newer IEMs than it, I’m personally waiting for the Aful Performer 5+2s to come in the mail. An alternative if you don’t want to drop ~$200+, grab the Eletech Boutique eartips and try swapping eartips out. I have an issue with the default AirPod tips slipping out.

I haven't tried those but I do have the Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite and those are touted as having wide soundstage and the Tea Pros sound more wide than those to my ears.

I've never tried the Blessing 3 so I don't want to comment regarding them. The Tea Pro is an excellent IEM. It has excellent imaging and good sound stage for an IEM. I've tried quite a few IEMs thanks to Amazon's return policy in the US. I do own these IEMs: Kiwi Orchestra Lite and Quintet Raptgo x HBB Hook Aful Performer 5 The Tea Pro is by far the best IEM I've tried.

I went from the EM6L > Kiwi Ears Quintet > Orchestra Lite > Tea Pro > Monarch MK3. I head a difference with every step up. I prefer the Quintet over the Tea Pro because the Tea Pro treble is darker and smoother and sounds less detailed imo. The Monarch MK3 is just absolutely amazing imo. I hear details in songs I've never heard before. The detail in every aspect is just amazing, and they're fun to listen to. They also do some black magic with soundstage and imaging. The MK3 sounds bigger than some openback headphones I've owned.

I have the Hype 4 and Orchestra Lite and enjoy them both a lot. The Hype 4 are very technical and detailed whilst still being smooth. The bass hits hard and goes deep and the mids are also great. The Orchestra Lites are much smoother and warmer. Really lush and you just get lost in the music. I put a 5db bass shelf at 180hz and works great, just gives them enough and I personally love drums on ba sets. They also have a noticeable large soundstage. So to compare Hype 4 highly technical yet still smooth with a bit of excitement and bass goes deep, slightly more critical listening. Orchestra Lites smooth, lush, envelope and you just listen for hours. Both for my small ears are decently sized Iems but still fit fine. Orchestra Lite is unvented so you'll get suction cup with sticky tips (personally doesn't both me), but sancai tips negate this, also gives them much better sound isolation.

Kiwi Ears Orchestra lite, excessively smooth, dark, blunted and low res. Sounds very cheap.

I've had unvented all BA IEMs before, like the Moondrop S8, Ibasso AM05, Tansio Mirai TSMR 3 Pro, and they all sound great/fine. Orchestra Lite just sounds so dull and blunt to my ears. Pressure build up doesn't bother me as much, especially when I use Tangzu's san cai tips.

Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite and Xenns Mangird Tea Pro

So I actually kinda bought a ton of IEMs to answer this question too. I was trying to find something that works for voiceover, for mixing, for critical editing, and for checking how mics sound in reviews. If I had to choose under $300, here’s my categories: * Mixing: Neutral enough to translate well on different setups (HD6xx, speakers, etc.) * Critical editing: Can it expose bad audio or does it hide flaws? * Monitoring: How good it is for hearing your own voice accurately. * Enjoyment: Just how fun it is to listen to. Letshouer Galileo Mixing: Excellent Critical Editing: Excellent Monitoring: Excellent (voice literally sounds just like me when monitoring) Enjoyment: Low Moondrop Blessing 2 / Blessing 3 Mixing: Excellent Critical Editing: Excellent Monitoring: Excellent Enjoyment: Low (pretty harsh, basically MDR-7506s in IEM form) Zigaat Lush Mixing: Excellent Critical Editing: Below average unless you crank the volume on sibilant spots Monitoring: Excellent Enjoyment: Good

Etymotic ER2XR / ER4XR Mixing: Below average (soundstage is too 2D) Critical Editing: Excellent Monitoring: Excellent Enjoyment: Okay Crinacle Daybreak (surprisingly) Mixing: Depends—more “Meta” neutral than Etymotic-style Critical Editing: Excellent (picks up sibilance like crazy, great for catching issues) Monitoring: Excellent Enjoyment: High Xuan NV (big surprise) Mixing: No, too much bass Critical Editing: Excellent (vocals are super accurate for both male and female) Monitoring: Iffy—low impedance can be weird with interfaces like the MOTU M2 Enjoyment: High Thieaudio Legacy 2 Mixing: Excellent Critical Editing: Excellent Monitoring: Excellent Enjoyment: Decent Cadenza 4 Mixing: Excellent Critical Editing: Excellent Monitoring: Excellent Enjoyment: Excellent Orchestra Lite Mixing: Excellent (surprisingly neutral—not bright like Blessing 2/3, not warm like Dusk or Lush) Critical Editing: Excellent Monitoring: Excellent Enjoyment: Excellent Basically the Studio4 but more revealing with sibilance instead of smoothing it out. Hexa I don’t really recommend it—too many fit issues and inconsistent impressions. If you do try it, use wide-bore tips (not narrow). Video explaining why: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x-T8el9fbs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x-T8el9fbs) Hope this helps.

Orchestra Lite is warmer than stuff like Blessing 3, Blessing 2, Tanchjim Origin. Warmer than Hexa. Warmer than ER2xr/ER4xr. But not as warm as Truthear Pure, Volume S, Dunu Kima 2, S08, Zigaat Lush. It's sort of smackdab in the middle. It reminds me a bit of the Studio 4 but if STudio4 had sibilance :P

They are very good but they are unvented, which is the thing that stops me listening to mine more often. Very resolving and very neutral tuning, although they do lack sub-bass extension.

That sounds like a problem because of it being unvented. I have one and it's probably my favourite tuning of any IEM (although it could do with some sub-bass). But I rarely listen to them, because it's such a pain to get the air pressure to equalise. And if it's not exactly right, they sound very wrong and can have a huge channel imbalance if one side is at a slightly different pressure than the other. None of the words you use are how I would describe it when it sounds right. But getting them to sound right, and continue doing so after moving around, can be more trouble than it's worth. It's put me off buying another all-BA set. I'm going to stick to hybrids with proper venting in the future.

I have them both and the OL is great, but it gives me a lot of issues with pressure because it's unvented. For some reason the MagicOne is mildly annoying but doesn't give me as much of a problem. If you don't get any sort of pressure issues with the MagicOne then I'd say definitely go for the OL, it's probably my favourite tuning of any IEM but I just don't listen to it much because the lack of venting is too bothersome. If I don't fiddle with them for about 2 minutes to get the air pressure just right in both ears, they end up sounding wrong. Then if I move, the seal breaks and I have to start again. The OL and MagicOne are actually somewhat similar in terms of midrange tonality, but the OL has much harder-hitting bass (although it completely lacks sub-bass extension, so drums tend to sound more like anvil strikes than a fully-rounded thud - it's actually good, but definitely a colouration). The OL also has much more extended and more incisive treble. Where the MagicOne has a very "soft" sound, the OL is very sharp and very resolving, without being bright.

Not sure if it’s in your budget, but I play COD and got the Kiwi Orchestra Lites. Best purchase ever. Can detect the exactly where people come from

I own both the Hype 4 and the Arete (and the orchestra lite). The hype 4 is one of my all time favorites regardless of price. For the price the Arete is really enjoyable, probably my favorite ZiiGaat. The orchestra lite is more analytical than the other two. It’s great for micro detail and accuracy. It’s less “fun” imho.

I love my Kiwi OL's, but have been looking at the Tea Pros. What did you like about these? Do the Tea Pros also isolate noise as well as the OL's?

Another vote for Orchestra Lite. Just be aware they are unvented and cause pressure problems in some people's ears.

he caps a bit on them because they're his collab, objectively $10 more expensive Splendor II are a bit better, they have better layering, it's easier to tell distance with them, directionality and everything else are just as good on both, I'd also give a slight edge to Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite, don't know what it is but it just feels a bit better. Arete are still very good and should objectively be near the top of B+ tier, just under Orchestra Lite but above S12 2024 right where the Yanyin Cannon also is, but that's $100 more, so it's good place to be tbh.

trash for monitoring, mediocre at best for music listening too, if you want something good for all of that you are not getting it for $200, you can get good for music + gaming but not for monitoring, maybe if you can stretch your budget a bit you can get good for gaming and monitoring but meh for music with kiwi ears orchestra lite at 249 msrp but they go for 210-215 on sale

Out of these Orchestra Lite by far, other 3 are comparable to $30 Tripowin Vivace when it comes to gaming and get blown out of the water by $89 Kefine Delci AE you should get Truthear Volume S but you could also take a look at Intuaura Splendor II, Apevoix Grit, Yanyin Cannon, Ziigaat Arete, all $350 and under [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9haw33NhPto](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9haw33NhPto)

friends FiiO FA19, he got them for Counter Strike but they work in every title basically, it's not one of those headphones/IEM that are just wide(you don't need a lot of depth for Counter Strike, Valorant, games like that) edit:/ if you want best comfort and still good for gaming I'd say getting a custom Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite is best option, usually all of the good stuff for gaming are rly bulky, 64 Audio Volur, FiiO FA19, Xenns Mangird Top, Xenns Mangird Tea Pro and Top, Thieaudio Monarch MKIII, they all have bunch of drivers, Orchestra Lites do too but they got only small BA drivers no big drivers alongside it and CIEM version is molded to your ear so you get perfect comfort edit#2:/ I personally use Intuaura Splendor II, it's a single DD(tiny and super light to most stuff good for gaming) with some might say too much venting, isolation is dogshit but love them, I put them on with some Dunu or FiiO foam tips and they disappear in my ear, can wear them for 10+ hours straight

def not, Arete, Splendor II, S15 and Orchestra Lite are where it starts getting better, those are all 250-260, maybe you get something more expensive for $250 on sale too but those won't be any better than these 4 objectively, just different, all the good $250-530 stuff is kind of the same, the bad ones some are worse than others but the good stuff $530 one like Tops or Variations isn't rly better than Arete or Orchestra Lite, it's just different, you rly need to step up your spending to get better than what $250-300 can offer these days, like $850-1500 to be a step up and that's when you get something good, there are a lot of $2k+ IEMs worse than SM4 you got

around 250 you got Arete, Splendor II, S15 and Orchestra Lite I personally use Splendor II

so is Orchestra Lite but I'd put it slightly ahead

upgrades similar to hexa I'd look into: tri i3 mk3, epz p50, kiwi ears orchestra lite, letshuoer cadenza 4, softears studio 4, elysian pilgrim

Pressure can be a pain for the Orchestra Lite on longer gaming sessions plus imo they r a bit too big and heavy. I am testing the OL and Aful 5+2 right now and leaning toward the Aful. For the OL definitely get different tips. Waiting on the Hype 4 and I will make my decision on which to keep!

They sounds great and i game a lot as well mainly fps. Definitely would pick Aful over OL due to comfort and size. If u can def try both since sound can be very subjective but I believe most people would agree the Ol is not very comfortable!

I suppose unless you are truly happy you go from the budget tier to the entry/mid fi tier. 150-300$ That's kinda where I live, my personal favorites are Aful 5+2 (don't own) 200-250$ Dunu davinci (own instead) 230-300$ Noble audio rex5 450$ Edition xs or xv depending on your preference 200-350$ I like bass so I own a FFxHBB duece I paid 269$ For a different sound I have a orchestra lite 250$ I use each item for a different thing. One is a daily, one has car subwoofer sound, and one has the most mild for me tuning. For when I'm a little fatigued but need the music to still have some magic You have some fantastic gear, and price doesn't equate to sound quality in this hobby BUT, some tunings and some of the special sauce can only be had at above 200$ Many would argue these are all still pretty budget bang for your buck picks(not the rex5) Or if you are crazy like me start buying 100-250$ cables. They FEEL AND LOOK INCREDIBLE.

Depends on price budget. When you say neutral, its going to have way less bass/sub bass than the APP2s. And "exciting" sorta contradicts neutral. Neutral suggestions: Hexas, Supermix 4, Ziggat Lush, Orchestra Lite

I use Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lites and ZiiGaat x Fresh Reviews Aretes… am I gaming wrong?

Kiwi ears orchestra lites as you said you have medium to large sized ears. They’re extremely comfortable and you can get tangzu sancai narrow bore tips to remove any vacuum sensation as they are non vented iems.

My Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lites legit sound better than my Hifiman Aryas and HD800s idk why

i use the kiwi ears orchestra lites. i love em, mainly used for competitive fps and hardcore games

I’ve been using a couple cheap IEMs for gaming and they didn’t blow me away. Yeah, you could hear stuff better, but the stereo imaging was always terrible. Until I bought the Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite. Forking expensive IEMs, but holy cow, they’re like auditory wallhacks.

Hard disagree with (1), Softears Studio 4 is such a set, Kiwi Ear Orchestra Lite is also a pretty damn good one too. Hard agree with (6).

Used to use arctis nova pro with the smiley eq on dac now I use iems , kiwi ears orchestra lite and fiio k11 R2R with a wave xlr and shure mic

Crinicle dusk and theaudio Oracle OG. Are may favorites. But I have many others I still have that I haven't gotten rid of yet. Trn conch is crazy nice with eq. Orchestra lite for gaming, ikko oh10, and recently kiwi septet I have really enjoyed.

Then KiwiEars Orchesra Lite

No, they are just neutral with lite mid emphasys. https://preview.redd.it/asrpdxzb8h3f1.png?width=2400&format=png&auto=webp&s=9436320969911bc0ed307d3ca8cffa6622158a1f

https://preview.redd.it/52lw1bv4sknf1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bb1413c7f25268a8033b28f88109d5c72f29f526 My one and only iems!

Kiwi Ear lites IEMs and I swapped out the tips for the vortex tips. I wear them for 15+ hours a day for both work and then gaming no issues. IEMs are the way to game and I’ll never go back to headsets

I love my iems for gaming. The truthear zero are amazing, but I definitely feel the wanting to level up, which I did (kiwi ears orchestra lite are amazing, and the Xenns Mangird topp were life changing). I think I wish that I had tried out EQ before I upgraded though, I think I could have gotten so much more out of my purchases before I jumped. Check out the PEACE EQ app, and go to the subreddit for peace and find your headphones, people with tons of experience have put together some awesome profiles for almost every popular headphone you can buy, and you can use those as starting points to make your headphones sound how you want. Also, check out ArtIsWar on YouTube, he has some custom sound tunings for black ops 6 specifically that will help you get more mileage out of what you already have. That being said, I won’t ever tell anybody to not explore the audiophile world, sound is an amazing thing. Best of luck out there!

Iem ventilation is another factor. I started my iem journey with Etymotoc ER2XR which have absurd sound isolation because of their deep insertion depth and lack of vents. I tried taking my Dusks out for a walk and the vent on the outside made listening to music impossible with a slight breeze. Picked up a pair of Orchestra Lites (all BA set with no vents) and though they aren't as isolating as the ER2XRs they are much better for walks compared to the Dusks.

Currently rocking KE Orchestra Lite. Great clarity and very forward on vocal, treble is smooth. But the bass is quite lacking, maybe due to using BA drivers, which makes it more punchy than rumbly

I've got kiwi ears Orchestra lites and they're amazing with tarkov

Well, the Orchestra Lite is a pretty decent set and it would get my recommendation! Also, BAs don't exactly struggle with bass a severely as most people seem to believe. BA bass just might sound slight different which is usually due to BA's not reaching the lowest sub-bass frequencies. The Orchesta Lites have decent and fun bass so they might be a good pick for you!

I went down this rabbit hole a few years ago. Tried 4 or 5 different headsets and 4 or 5 different IEMs... Landed on Kiwi Orchestra Lite IEMs... Cannot recommend them enough. Check out reviews on them. Order them on Amazon. Return of you don't think they are the greatest things ever. The clarity and direction audio is on another level imo.

Maybe try some cheaper sets until you figure out what's causing it. I just got my kiwiears orchestra lites a few hours ago and the fit for me is very good. my ears seem to work well with most IEMs though.

Not really. I haven't got a set I don't like. My current favorites are the dusk, dunu braindance, kiwiears aether, and kiwiears orchestra lite.

The Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite, Starfield IIs were pretty ok. Yea HRTF is such a strange thing, I'm a huge fan of the Speaker Harman Curve but finding IEMs that work for me has been a challenge.

I’ve had the green ones for a couple months now, I still find myself just looking at them sometimes. Lol

Not compared to the Martilo, Tea Pro, Top Pro, etc. They've got more bass than, say, the Luna or Orchestra Lite, but that's not saying much. 

These are definitely not dull, but I'm not convinced that they're the best-tuned for this price and style. The bass isn't the fastest, the upper mids and treble can be quite spicy, and the lower mids lack a little substance. As for dull, the NiceHCK Rockies, Orchestra Lite, DITA Prelude, and a bunch others might qualify, depending on your tastes. 

They were great when I had them. But I had to return 2 pairs back to back within a day of having each pair bc they both came with driver issues. I also found the non vented shell uncomfortable. They are undeniably pretty tho

Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite! I prefer the orange color the most, but all of them are absolutely beautiful. I’m a sucker for resin made IEMs. They’re just so beautiful and the fact that they’re crystal clear and something I never even noticed on the BA for the highs Kiwi Ears is even printed on it inside the IEM. https://preview.redd.it/od5kg2jtyzbe1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a652d327aface6ac83d1a31db3dfab822e129f6f

Thank you for the recommendation, I've ordered the Kiwi Orchestra Lite to just try out stuff from Amazon and also ordered the Mega 5est so will try to see what I prefer and like.

Thanks for the recommendation! After doing some research and looking through all the list, I've ordered the Mega 5est for the main and Kiwi Orchestra Lite to just kinda try out IEM and experiment stuff.

jks has the best iems i think. He's used Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite, Letshuoer S12, Ziigaat Arete and now Ziigaat Odyssey. Edit: He is a follower of Fresh Reviews on Twitter

Only iem I've tried in that price range and it's the kiwi ears orchestra lites and I recommend them. Above that the xenns mangird tea pro. That being said this youtube has a lot of iems you could demo. https://m.youtube.com/@GlennGaneAudio

Haven't tried many in the price range but I would say the Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite. Vocals sound phenomenal on them and I'm not much of a bass head so I wasn't bothered by the fact that it's not bassy. I like u shaped and balanced tunings.

Kiwi ears orchestra lites and even though I liked them I returned them and got the xenns mangird tea pro since fresh reviews said they were better for gaming.

I like the kiwi ears orchestra lites. If you are a fan of vocals you can't go wrong with them. Also very good for gaming. If you want bass it's probably a no go though.

Tea Pro or Top Dusk Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite I love the Tanchjim Origin too but it's more of a vocal centric IEM

Moondrop kato, i had it, its V shape sound with a great bass sound. Kiwi, and KZ iems are great too However there’s many options at this price range,

im on kiwi ears, no waifu 💀

I am new to this so I did buy the kiwi from lowest range price which is recommended here

So. I started trying to get a bunch of sets to see how much the difference is between the low range and the middle range ( my middle is probably a lot of people’s low range ! ). These are like a quick comment on the sets. (Spoiler : the zero 2s were awesome ) Super mix 4 - perfectly neutral Green dragon - neutral, less dynamic range Black lightning- flat, no dynamic range , uncomfortable fit Zero2 - balanced, touch more silky smooth bass. Hyper comfortable. Kiwi ears - zero2 , bass a bit more direct

I own both and I would have to say the Tea Pros are just all around better for gaming. The Kiwi's were the king for a long time but when I switched to the Tea Pros I was blown away by the upgrade. I'm actually selling my Kiwi's right now. That's how good the Tea pros are.

I play mostly FPS games and everything feels pinpoint accurate. Not to mention the added bass allowing for better audio cues on footsteps. The Kiwi's were a little too high in the treble for my liking and I could never go for long sessions without feeling very fatigued

I love the sound of the Blue 2’s, but I tried the Tangzu Fudu, Kiwis and 7hz - the only reason I’m considering others is because they feel so much better in my ears. But the sound signature has been better on the Truths by far