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I think endgame is whatever you deem to be the pinnacle of the sound that you like. I have a pair of Campfire Ponderosas which were £800 give or take but I later bought a pair of Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lites for about £260 which, in my opinion, are significantly better. So for me endgame is £260, but for you it may be something else entirely.
Orchestra lite not being in the list is heresy
Fiio FA19 for gaming original Xenns Top with a custom cable for music. Also own original Fiio FH7, Dunu vulkan, Tin t4 plus, Kiwi ears orchestra lite and KE4, Letshuoer s12 pro, ikko oh10 and Punch audio martillo.
That’s mostly due to each game having different audio implementations. Footsteps can sit within different frequency ranges from game to game. Other audio queues (explosions & abilities) that sit in those same ranges drowning out footsteps, can sometimes be far more transparent on a particular iem than others. It seems Fresh usually rates multi driver iems quite highly due to their competence in imaging and layering. I have purchased a few different sets based on his reviews. Primarily the Dunu Vulkan 1, Kiwi ears orchestra lite, Xenns Top and Fiio FA19. I don’t play Valorant though but i definitely think he knows what he’s talking about and not just shilling products like other reviewers.
The S12 Ultra has recessed vocals. I wouldn’t. Buy the S12 Pro or S12 2024 instead. The supermix 4 is harman. It makes thing sound thin for me but you’ll like it if you like harman. I just picked up the orchestra lite myself
I have the Kiwi Orchestras you linked and I love them. I have been exclusively using IEMs for 10+ years and these are the best option at their price point. IMO they punch far above their weight class too. I have had more expensive IEMs that did not sound near this good. my single complaint about the Kiwi is that they can kinda hurt my ears if i wear them for like 8 hours straight. But thats pretty rare.
Hisenior cano cristales maybe? Jk i like the faceplate tho Well i think you should try cheaper iem. Price is in order > Sgor Luna>KZ PRX>Artti t10 (planar) Tanchjim one>Tin Audio T2>Truthear Hexa>Truthear Pure (Neutral) Tangzu wan'er SG>Tanchjim Bunny>Celest Wyvern Black/Abyss>Simgot EW300 DSP>Aful Explorer (Warm) Or cheap Bone conduction iem like KBear KB02 Edit: And if you like Kiwi Ears they have plenty of good iem like the Septet, Astral, orchestra lite
I can understand what you're saying, in the past I cannot wear IEMs, I was an headphones enjoyer, but then I had some problems and now they annoy me if I wear them too much. Now im getting used to IEMs. Thank you for your feedback! Actually I have the Kiwi Orchestra Lite. They sound really good, but they're not very natural and balanced for mix, so I watched some review and some details of different IEMs and I found that for mixing, A12t and A18t from 64 Audio are very good, but they're too expensive, so I did some research and I saw that also A6t are very balanced and natural for mixing, and also they're very good for an everyday listening. But I wanted to ask for some opinion, so thank you for the feedback!
So I actually kinda bought a ton of IEMs to answer this question too. I was trying to find something that works for voiceover, for mixing, for critical editing, and for checking how mics sound in reviews. If I had to choose under $300, here’s my categories: * Mixing: Neutral enough to translate well on different setups (HD6xx, speakers, etc.) * Critical editing: Can it expose bad audio or does it hide flaws? * Monitoring: How good it is for hearing your own voice accurately. * Enjoyment: Just how fun it is to listen to. Letshouer Galileo Mixing: Excellent Critical Editing: Excellent Monitoring: Excellent (voice literally sounds just like me when monitoring) Enjoyment: Low Moondrop Blessing 2 / Blessing 3 Mixing: Excellent Critical Editing: Excellent Monitoring: Excellent Enjoyment: Low (pretty harsh, basically MDR-7506s in IEM form) Zigaat Lush Mixing: Excellent Critical Editing: Below average unless you crank the volume on sibilant spots Monitoring: Excellent Enjoyment: Good
Etymotic ER2XR / ER4XR Mixing: Below average (soundstage is too 2D) Critical Editing: Excellent Monitoring: Excellent Enjoyment: Okay Crinacle Daybreak (surprisingly) Mixing: Depends—more “Meta” neutral than Etymotic-style Critical Editing: Excellent (picks up sibilance like crazy, great for catching issues) Monitoring: Excellent Enjoyment: High Xuan NV (big surprise) Mixing: No, too much bass Critical Editing: Excellent (vocals are super accurate for both male and female) Monitoring: Iffy—low impedance can be weird with interfaces like the MOTU M2 Enjoyment: High Thieaudio Legacy 2 Mixing: Excellent Critical Editing: Excellent Monitoring: Excellent Enjoyment: Decent Cadenza 4 Mixing: Excellent Critical Editing: Excellent Monitoring: Excellent Enjoyment: Excellent Orchestra Lite Mixing: Excellent (surprisingly neutral—not bright like Blessing 2/3, not warm like Dusk or Lush) Critical Editing: Excellent Monitoring: Excellent Enjoyment: Excellent Basically the Studio4 but more revealing with sibilance instead of smoothing it out. Hexa I don’t really recommend it—too many fit issues and inconsistent impressions. If you do try it, use wide-bore tips (not narrow). Video explaining why: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x-T8el9fbs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x-T8el9fbs) Hope this helps.
Orchestra Lite is warmer than stuff like Blessing 3, Blessing 2, Tanchjim Origin. Warmer than Hexa. Warmer than ER2xr/ER4xr. But not as warm as Truthear Pure, Volume S, Dunu Kima 2, S08, Zigaat Lush. It's sort of smackdab in the middle. It reminds me a bit of the Studio 4 but if STudio4 had sibilance :P
Softears Studio 4 (better for female vocals, ie kpop) Xuan NV (great for male and female vocals. Imo better than Truthear Nova. But soundstage is lacking on Xuan NV). But it's a hell of a deal for $67. Great artwork box. Great eartips (usually 20 bucks). Great cable. Great sound. Kiwi Ears Astral (better for female vocals. But no penalty for male vocals) Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite (better for female vocals) Cadenza 4 (great all-rounder) Juzear Defiant (at least the unit I have; mine works fine. Vocals are spot on for male and female vocals.) YMMV but I feel like Zigaat Lush has good vocals too.
Kiwi ears aether. It reminded me too much of the Hexa and I returned it. It's basically a better Hexa. Better soundstage. Toned down on the harshness. Just as joyless. Enjoy. It's imo very neutral. For context (because people define “neutral” differently), here’s my subjective definition of neutral. If you agree with this framing, you’ll understand my recommendation: 1. >!I don't think neutral is old school textbook neutral, ie Etymotic ER2xr!< 2. >!I dont think neutral is JM-1 or Meta. Those sound warm and V-shaped to me. Usually v-shaped!< 3. >!My definition of neutral is wherever the Studio4 lives. Or where the Kiwi Orchestra Lite lives. Those aren't neutral bright like Blessing 3, Blessing 2, Tanchhjim Origin. But they aren't warm like Truthear Pure, Dunu SA6 Mark 2, Zigaat Lush. And they aren't warm-ish like Mega5EST, Explorer, Dunu Kima 2, RSV Mark 1, IER M9.!< >!It's neither here nor there. Where the Studio4 lives. The Kiwi Aether is there too. Get the Orchestra Lite over the Aether, it has more joy while still being pretty dead-on neutral imho!<
Ignoring your budget, admittedly. But it's because often the budget isn't realistic in line with what's available. Imo the next step up if you're looking for a neutral Iem, check out the Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite. It's so precise that every microphone and subtle nuances between each microphone are shown properly. They're incredibly accurate for mixing, monitoring and voiceover editing.
Going to use a grading system: A, B, C, D, F like in school A means excellent B is good C is average D is bad F is absolute fail **Mixing:** Going to avoid using the word "neutral" because then every mofo comes in the thread saying, what's neutral. Let's use the word "even-keeled'. Good iems for mixing are generally more even-keeled. If it has way too much bass you'll thin out your mix. If it's way too trebly and bright and shouty you're going to overcompensate. Ideally you want something more even-keeled. **Enjoyability:** Subjective. But how enjoyable it is **Critical Editing:** This isn't the same as mixing. But it means will it let you know if you have shit audio. If I listen to Kanye's sibilant ass tracks does he sound sibilant on them? If I listen to Lana White Dress is she sibilant on it? She better be. If I watch a DMS video from 6 years ago, does he sound sibilant on it? He better. Because he does. This is important because you need to evaluate your audio and the iem lets you know your audio is shit before thousands of people hear it. Etymotic ERXR Enjoyability: C to B to A. Pretty good, depending on who you ask Critical editing: A+. Very good at letting you know areas of trouble in your audio Mixing: D. Poor soundstage Truthear Hexa Enjoyability: D. I hate it Critical editing: A+ with wide bore tips Mixing: C. Imo actually a bit thin on lowend. You'll overcompensate. Also the soundstage on Hexa is kinda eh ngl. Salnotes Zero Original Enjoyability: C. I think it's ok. Or mid. Critical editing: B. Honestly pretty good at letting you know egregious areas. The version 1 is less forgiving with sibilance than 2, so it's better for critical editing. Zero 2 blunts the sibilance out (better for enjoyers; bad for audio engineers) Mixing: A. pretty neutral imo Softears Studio 4 Enjoyability: A to A+. Very enjoyable IEM Critical editing: D. Ironically. It smooths out all sibilance so you won't know sibilance is there. This is why it's so beautiful sounding. Mixing: A+. Very neutral. I'd even say probably my closest definition of neutral Moondrop Blessing 2 Enjoyability: D (harsh, shouty, bright, sibilant). Same with Blessing 3. Critical Editing: A. These are very picky with harshness in vocals. I genuinely think these are the Sony MDR 7506 in iem form. Mixing: A Zigaat Lush Enjoyability: B to A Critical Editing: C You won't really find problem areas of sibilance. You really really really have to crank it to hear it. Mixing: A. Pretty even-keeled. Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite: Enjoyability: B to C Critical Editing: A. Excellent at picking out flaws. Mixing: A+. Excellent at telling you the whole picture. Excellent for mixing. Very very even-keeled.
Letshouer Cadenza 4 Enjoyability: A to A+ Critical Editing: B to A Mixing: A. While a bit U-shaped it's not egregious. It's enough to make decisions. Sennheiser IE200 Enjoyability: B to A Critical Editing: D to F (rounds out a lot of sibilance imo, which is actually a good thing for enjoyers). Mixing: B. Kind of shocking but while people call this v-shaped this is actually not as v-shaped imo. If you monitor yourself using these iems it'll sound exactly like you down to the microphone. Most other v-shaped iems don't do that. Crinacle Daybreak Enjoyability: B to A- Critical Editing: A (rofl. It's funny because it genuinely is good at picking out bad audio. If it sounds harsh it's because the original track is harsh) Mixing: B (This is more of a "Meta" tuned iem. But imo just enough where it sounds true) Crinacle Dusk Enjoyability: B to A+ (depending on who you ask) Critical Editing: C on Analogue. F on DSP. It rolls out sibilance by quite a large margin. Mixing: A on analogue mode. Honestly pretty neutral. almost HD600ish. But about a C on DSP mode. Tanchjim Origin Enjoyability: C to A (depending on who you ask) Critical editing: A (it'll definitely let you know spicy regions Mixing: A. A bit bright-slanted but definitely capable for mixing. Theioaudio Legacy 2: Enjoyability: C Critical editing: A+ Mixing: A+ Xuan NV (honorable mention) Enjoyability: A Critical editing: B Mixing: D (too bassy imo) I mention these because imo these are the Audio Technica M50x of iems but the size of 2 quarters. They basically give you accurate vocals down to the tee but thumpy bass. The vocals are very accurate on these. Not good for mixing though. Dunu Titan S (original) Enjoyability: C Critical editing: D (the treble is rounded out quite a bit) mixing: A (these are my imo pretty close to neutral)
Awesome!!! That's actually the one I think is one of the most viable. It'll do everything you asked for :P
Fosi Audio IM4 (in black), Celest Wyvern Abyss (original, not the remaster), Celest Phoenixcall (clear not the red) , Elysian Pilgrim, Binary Acoustics EP321 in the mosaic color (zero interest in buying it though), Moondrop Blessing 3, Moondrop Blessing 2, Campfire Andromeda 2020, Binary Chopin, HiBy Yacht 10, Celest Pandamon V 2.0 (absolutely gorgeous shells), Tanchjim Soda, Simgot EW300, Softears RSV Mark I, Softears RSV Mark II, Tanchjim Fola, Juzear Defiant in emerald green, Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite in green, Letshuoer Cadenza 4, Simgot EM6L, Crinacle Dusk, Truthear Nova (beautiful shell), Mangird Tea Pro, Truthear Zero Blue 2 (gorgeous shell), Tangzu Xuan NV mainly because of the box art, Tipsy M3 (mid sound, but the shells are drop-dead gorgeous), Moondrop Meteor, Letshuoer S12 Ultra, Moondrop Chu 2, ROSESELSA Aurora Ultra in blue, Softears Volume S, Dunu Kima 2, GK Kunten (hate the shilling but the design is nice), Moondrop Variations in black, Simgot Supermix 4, HiBy Ace, Final Audio A4000, Letshuoer S08, Binary Dynaquattro, Tanchjim Force, Tanchjim Origin, 7Hz G1 in white (too bad the sound isn’t great), Moondrop Kadenz, Divinus Fuduverse Version 1 (not v2), and Tangzu Xue Tao, which I’m pretty sure is what originally sold me on it visually. Edit: Twistura Woodnote, Cadenza 2, Juzear Harrier (in the blue), Ddhifi Surface too
These are bigger than the Lites though, right? Because even Lite isn't exactly the most comfortable iem for smaller ears.
**Zigaat Lush + Moondrop Spring Tips (large)** Neutral warm. It really shines with those eartips for me. I’ve gotten feedback from folks saying those exact tips seem to help a lot. (For context, I tried Clarion, Tang Sancai Wide Bore, Tang Sancai Balanced Bore, Divinus Velvet.) But it was, for some reason, the default Crinacle Dusk eartips (Moondrop Spring Tips) that made it sound much better. Reminds me of an HD600. **Letshouer Cadenza 4 ($199)** More U-shaped. Absolutely spectacular. I'd honestly get these (while they're on $199) over everything here. It's not precisely what you asked for but you should absolutely get it while you can. **Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite ($199)** Closer to neutral. I wouldn’t put it in neutral bright like Blessing 3, Blessing 2, Tanchjim Origin, Salnotes Zero OG, or 7Hz Sonus. I also wouldn’t put it on the warm side like Dunu Sa6 Mark 2, Lush, Truthear Pure, Tea Pros, Mega5EST, or Dunu Kima 2. It’s more in the middle. Not the left, not the right. My definition of neutral. I don’t think Meta is neutral. I don’t think Etymotic are neutral. I think the Studio4 is neutral. That’s where the Orchestra Lite lives. Note!!! Comfort can be fiddly. Unvented. **Truthear Pure** In my opinion, the Pure should be recommended instead of the Hexa to people who are confused between the two. Just remember: don’t use the stock eartips. Use Tang Sancai Balanced Bore. This cleans out the muddiness and vastly improves the sound. **Xuan NV** An unconventional pick, but it might be what you want. Vocals are spot-on and are reference quality (like M50x etc). It accurately displays my voice on a microphone exactly how it sounds. Male vocals sound exact. Female vocals sound exact. They also come with Tang Sancai eartips, which are normally $20. The cable, artwork, and sound are fantastic. Basically neutral and accurate vocals with a fun bass boost done well. And imo it’s what you are asking for: – i.e. better than Hexa, a far more enjoyable listen. Good reason why many people complain about the Hexa on this subreddit and regret buying it. It’s a meme at this point. – Better than the Delci. Ironically, I liked the Kefine Klean over the Delci. Delci is like a V-shape but male vocals are thin sounding. Synthetic sounding. The Xuan NV has a more full tonality to all male and female vocals. – Better than the Hola. Tough one because I love the Hola, but Xuan NV has more detail and punchier bass. – Better than the Salnotes Zero. Just literally better on everything across the board. Better vocals. Better bass. Better tonality. Punchier bass. Fuller vocals. – S12 Pro: I can’t comment on that. But I have the S12 Ultra. I felt the S12 Ultra were honestly too blunted on treble. Sounds like the S12 Pro is the exact opposite. Just note the soundstage isn’t the best, but still a helluva deal at $67. **Daybreak** It’s on discount right now. It’s Meta done pretty well but at a great discount. It’s done well. Mild V, warm neutral, Meta-ish tonality. **Performer 5+2** More of a mild V. Then again it might be more of a textbook V. But it’s one to check out as well. **Sennheiser IE200 (unconventional)** I’d actually label this as a mild V and closer to neutral. Vocals sound exact. When monitoring and switching between different microphones (MXL 990, AT2035, SM7B, TLM103, SE4100, etc.) It accurately showed my voice exactly as it sounded. People consider the IE200 kind of V-shaped, but it isn’t an extreme V-shape like Hype4 or IE600. I’d even argue it’s less V-shape compared to the Defiant. The comfort on the IE200 is S-tier, and I often veer toward my most comfortable pairs. That’s precisely why I never buy Theiaudio IEMs. As great as they sound, they never fit my ears, and so they never get my money.
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