KZ - Castor Pro (Harman Target Version)

I have bass and non bass pro version and when I listen first time I got amazed by non bass version is more refined and clean than the bass version and I return my bass version and keep my harmen target version I don't feel any difference in bass

It's a really nice review. I ordered a castor pro harman target version yesterday. Hopping it to perform well for gaming and music. do you think it will be good for gaming?

I have the castor pro harman version and it's pretty good for the price.

Preorder the tangzu wan er 2 off the tangzu website or aliexpress. It has really good value. I have the castor pro and its ok but nothing crazy. I prefer my 7hz crinacle zero 2 instead.

I have the castor pro and I prefer my zero 2 instead of it as well.

Personally, at 2k INR. None will have the clarity and details for some and many audiophiles. It kinda starts at least at the 4k-5k INR or above. If you want some details in this price range, go with a bright sound signature or V-shaped with prominent bright or trebles. Neutral Warm * Tangzu Wan'er SG \*\* * Tangzu Wan'er 2 \* Neutral Bright * 7Hz Salnotes Zero * KZ Castor Silver (Harman tuning, DDUU switches) \*\* * KZ Castor Pro Silver (Harman tuning, DDUU switches) \*\* * KZ x Angelears Libra X V-shaped * 7Hz x Crinacle Salnotes Zero 2 \* * Tanchjim Bunny 3.5mm \* * Tanchjim One 3.5mm * KZ Castor Silver (Harman tuning, UUDD switches) \*\* * KZ Castor Pro Silver (Harman tuning, UUDD switches) \*\* U-shaped * Tanchjim Bunny DSP \* * Tanchjim One DSP * DUNU Titan S2 \* (\* recommend | \*\* personally owned)

And for your question, IEMs for gaming maybe at or under $20 or less. Tangzu Wan'er 2 * New and will improve the original Wan'er SG, 2-pin 0.78mm (better than QDC) * Pre-order and no reviews yet so far. Tangzu Wan'er SG * Mellow and easy to daily drive both physically and sound comfort wise, one of the best stock eartips I experienced. Best low sub-bass I experienced. * Might sound a tad muddy footsteps especially Valorant, uses QDC connector. Moondrop Chu 2 * Great all rounder for competitive gaming, light and small, metal case and 2-pin 0.78mm. * Bass might be lacking for some, and especially single-player games, might be abit treble harsh sounding for some. KZ EDC Pro * General all rounder, punchy bass with good clarity and highs. Great for general single-player games and maybe some online games as well. 2-pin 0.78mm and light to wear. Mellow and not treble harsh sounding. * Might muddies out footsteps especially Valorant KZ Castor * Silver version - A more versatile version of the EDC Pro, has the better soundstage a bit, can change sound feel from a neutral bright, neutral, and abit bassy. uses QDC and might be a tad heavier in the ears, treble harsh especially at its treble and mid focused tunings. * Bass version - Best avoid with competitive games, especially Valorant. But great with single-player games that are cinematic and has alot of cutscenes and environmental stuffs. QDC and heavy as well. KZ Castor Pro * Silver and Bass versions - same with the OG Castor, but a tad bit physically heavier. There are definitely better IEMs on slightly higher price range of $50-80, but they might be expensive for you. You can wait and save some more money for a more pricey set.

1500 INR? * KZ Castor/Castor Pro Silver * KZ EDC Pro If you can at least push it at 2k INR, I would suggest * Tangzu Wan'er SG 2 * Tangzu Wan'er SG * Truthear Gate * 7Hz x Crinacle Zero 2 * Kiwi Ears Dolce * Moondrop Chu 2 Prices are HeadphoneZone, Audio Store, and Concept Cart If Amazon * KZ EDC Pro above 1.5k INR * Tangzu Wan'er SG 2 * Tangzu Wan'er SG * Truthear Gate * 7Hz x Crinacle Zero 2 * Kiwi Ears Dolce * Moondrop Chu 2 * KZ Castor/Castor Pro Silver

yeah as long as you buy the Silver, not the bass. The silver is more all-rounder than the Black bass version which is more into EDM/Pop

- KZ Castor/Castor Pro Silver - KZ EDC Pro - Tangzu Wa'ner SG/Wan'er SG 2 - 7Hz Salnotes Zero/Crinacle Zero 2 - Truthear Gate - Tanchjim Bunny

tbh all budget ChiFi has meh QC or some of its quality reduced, especially under the 3-4k INR. As long as you take good care of your IEM, they will last long, cheap or expensive. [Here is my beginner's guide for IEMs,](https://www.reddit.com/user/NinjaSiren/comments/1jil8re/beginners_intro_guide_to_iems/) including how to protect these little stuffs This QKZ AK6 Pro that is below or above 1k INR lasted with me for 3 years and still running, QKZ is one of those IEM manufacturers that is known to have iffy issues. (Btw KZ not same as QKZ, different companies) https://preview.redd.it/tz0tlx4e49te1.jpeg?width=4272&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=584f698dcd0a4488307e52f7e48f599ff7e0c052

All under 3k INR (based on ConceptKart website) Neutral (including warm and bright) * Tangzu Wan'er SG (neutral warm) \*\* * Tangzu Wan'er 2 (neutral warm) \* * Tanchjim Bunny DSP (neutral bright) \* * Tanchjim One DSP (neutral warm) * Moondrop Chu 2 DSP (neutral bright) * 7Hz Salnotes Zero (neutral bright) * Truthear Gate (neutral balanced) \* * Kinera Celest Wyvern Qing (neutral balanced) \* * KZ Castor/Castor Pro Silver (v-warm-ish to neutral bright) \*\* V/U-shaped (including warm and bright) * Tanchjim Bunny 3.5mm * Tanchjim One 3.5mm * 7Hz x Crinacle Salnotes Zero 2 (mild v-balanced) \* * ND Planet (v-warm) * Rose Technics (Roseselsa) Aurora Ultra (v-warm-ish) \* * Moondrop Chu 2 3.5mm (mild v) * DUNU Titan S2 (v-balanced) \* * BLON BL-03 (v-warm) * BLON BL-03 II (v-warm) * Kiwi Ears Dolce (u-bright) * TRN Conch (mild v-bright) * Moondrop Chu 2 3.5mm (mild v-balanced) \* * Kinera Celest Wyvern Abyss (mild v-warm) * Tangzu Shimin Li (mild-v bright) * KZ Castor/Castor Pro Silver (mild v-warm-ish to neutral bright) \*\* * KZ Castor/Castor Pro Black Improved Bass (v-bass to v-bright-ish) \*\* * KZ EDC Pro (u-warm) \*\* * KZ EDX Pro (v-bright) (\* recommend | \*\* personally I own)

If you are going for the Castor or Castor Pro for general use, do not go for the Improved Bass version (even if its being advertised by many YouTubers) The Silver Harman is the way better Castor for general use, I have the OG Bass version as well. Its great for music but with gaming it gets muddied. Castor/Castor Pro Silver > Castor/Castor Pro Bass Terms of the Wan'er 2, from the people I ask and comparing vs the original Wan'er SG. Seems its a minor upgrade, better bass and mid separation (less muddy mids), and better cable with the inclusion of their Sanchai eartips. But the tuning is still the original Wan'er SG with its slighty anemic treble and sparkles (personally)

If you are going for the Castor or Castor Pro for general use, do not go for the Improved Bass version (even if its being advertised by many YouTubers) The Silver Harman is the way better Castor for general use, I have the OG Bass version as well. Its great for music but with gaming it gets muddied. Castor/Castor Pro Silver > Castor/Castor Pro Bass Terms of the Wan'er 2, from the people I ask and comparing vs the original Wan'er SG. Seems its a minor upgrade, better bass and mid separation (less muddy mids), and better cable with the inclusion of their Sanchai eartips. But the tuning is still the original Wan'er SG with its slighty anemic treble and sparkles (personally)

They are for the most part similar in general sound experience and tuning. Just that Castor Pro has abit more clarity and minor details vs the original. Though the Pro is abit more larger in size and abit heavier. Like a little bit. Both are good tbh, though I personally go for the og version. If you want less treble with them, then you go for UUDD switches.

|WARM|BALANCED-ish|BRIGHT| |:-|:-|:-| |Tangzu Wan'er SG (neutral warm)|Moondrop Chu 2 (mild v-bright-ish)|7Hz Salnotes Zero (neutral bright)| |Kiwi Ears Cadenza (neutral warm, with a touch of bright)||Simgot EW200 (mild v-bright)| All of them are good at their price point, but basing on your other IEMs, you prefer a mild-v tuning, either abit bright or abit warm. * KZ Castor Harman (Silver) which is a neutral bright to mild v-warm from switches * 7Hz x Crinacle Salnotes Zero 2 which is a mild v-balanced with a warm-ish feel * KZ EDC Pro is a u-balanced with a touch of warmness Kiwi Ears Cadenza has better brightness and air vs Tanzgu Wan'er SG, and personally experienced some minimal lower midrange mud with the original Tangzu Wan'er SG. Tangzu Wan'er SG 2 kinda fixed most of the issues with the original Wan'er SG, but its still a neutral warm IEM. Simgot EW200 has more energetic and brighter sound signature than KZ Castor Silver (Harman), but KZ Castor Silver has better soundstage and image separation vs Simgot EW200. Moondrop Chu 2 is the smallest on all of these, but might lack overall sound experience abit vs both the KZ Castor Silver and 7Hz x Crinacle Salnotes Zero 2. 7Hz Salnotes Zero is more neutral bright, lacks bass impact vs 7Hz x Crinacle Salnotes Zero 2. (fairly similar to KZ Castor Silver at DDUU/DDDU switches) * So if you want a little bit more warmness but retaining some balanced feel, Kiwi Ears Cadenza * If you want more treble energy and abit more analytical, Simgot EW200 * If you want a small IEM, Moondrop Chu 2

then go for a single DD IEM or 2DD with neutral or harman/harman-ish tuning, avoid going hybrids or planars. With the price range there are decently ones but I am unsure if they include a cable with included microphone, excluding every IEM we already listed before: * Kefine Klean \* * Tripowin Vivace \* * Moondrop Lan * Inawaken Dawn Ms \* * Kinera Celest Wyvern Pro * Tanchjim Bunny * Tangzu Wan'er SG 2 \* * Simgot EW100/EW100P * ZiiGaat Nuo \* * Truthear Gate \* * ISN Neo 1 \* * BLON BL-03 * BLON BL-03 II * BLON BL-05 * EPZ Q5 Pro \* * TKZK TK-02 * KBEar KB01 * KBEar KB02 \* * KZ Castor Harman (Silver) \* * KZ Castor Pro Harman (Silver) * KZ EDC Pro (\* recommend)

https://preview.redd.it/oc5qk49gnqze1.png?width=2400&format=png&auto=webp&s=9aa9538b56e361c6da5d2c43aba4962eff6c12fd SGOR Adonis should be also good for you, though its more v-shaped than the Salnotes Zero 2, with abit more upper midrange energy (which means female vocals and lead sounds will be more pronounced) But male vocals might get thinner abit, but advantage for the Adonis maybe slightly better on soundstage and image separation vs the Salnotes Zero 2, because of its semi-open back design (Like the KZ Castor Silver, at the UDUU switch setting)

difference is more into maturity, general sound experience, and refinement. but it definitely depends on your preference tuning(s). I previously came from the original KZ Castors (both Bass and Silver Harman), then jumped to KZ AM16 Balanced, but I have already experienced few higher end IEMs around 50-200 USD. AM16 Balanced, especially if bought on a discount or at low price (just like mine at $33 locally here in the Philippines, but in the US it might be around $50-60). Better terms of detail retrieval, instrument separation, and "soundstage" vs the Castors (even if I EQ them to a similar preference EQ I like) But with a little bit more pricy set than the AM16 Balanced, because of its deep V-shape tuning and a little bit more refinement on those more expensive sets, those sets sound better overall. (specifically Ziigaat Odyssey 1) Though personally the AM16 Balanced with PEQ is getting there, sounds wonderful, though definitely those two sets are better, But definitely I know now what to upgrade to and most likely I know what are my end game sets. Until I don't need to EQ. My Mild-V/U shape EQ is around the Xenns Mangird Tea Pro and Ziigaat Odyssey 1. https://preview.redd.it/enkhr59aqhyf1.png?width=2400&format=png&auto=webp&s=35e8f417e92d2acc4f2be3885944fbb1a67f9a52

Castor Pro (Silver) might be touch bit brighter (abit more leaning towards neutral bright) than the OG Castor Silver, OG Silver seems to have a little bit more smoother sound experience than the Pro Silver. OG Silver, even in FR graphs is more versatile from neutral bright to a Mild-V warm-ish tuning. On the Tangzu Wan'er SG 1, yes its really warm and chill sound experience, though same with your guess it sounded abit too relaxed. Wan'er SG 2 changed that, so you can definitely go for that one as well. If you like bass, then Castor Bass definitely. Imaging wise its better than Tangzu Wan'er SG 1, though male vocals gets drowned, female vocals does not get affected as much. This based on my own personal experience on all 3 https://preview.redd.it/pq76zelzj8xf1.jpeg?width=9720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1e9a811c03703d0c885fd03d7a806392ba2ec491 Though in the end, these are just subjective and personal opinions, everything will end up on your own preferences, likes, and dislikes.

The original EDX Pro is really more on the V-shaped bright tuning, and many don't like its bright tuning. If you really like bass, Castor Harman is not your IEM. I would either suggest going to like Saga Bass or Castor Bass, or Dawn. Castor Harman (1100 switches), Gale, EDC Pro, EDX Pro 2, and Saga Balanced is more leaning towards balanced-ish tuning. Castor Harman (0000 switches) is more leaning to mild-V shaped bright, (0011 switches) neutral bright tuning Terms of improvement or any differences, if you want versatility and easy to adjust to almost any tuning, go for the Castor Harman (tuning switches and EQ) If you want to not fiddle with switches and/or EQ, go for the EDC Pro, EDX Pro 2, and Saga series.

EDX Pro 2 and Saga Bass would definitely be a slightly more warmer set than EDC Pro. EDC Pro would be similar-ish in bass and mids with the EDX Pro 2, but a brighter treble, abit closer to balanced than warm or bright. But the EDC Pro was original reference tuning for many newer KZ IEMs, like the EDX Pro 2 and Saga Bass. They just refined the sound overtime, Zenith was the pinnacle of that tuning, especially alot of people really preferred the warmer sound. Even other KZs have been tuned to a tamer treble than classic KZ sets. Though recent new new releases have been using the Castor and Castor Pro Bass tuning with refinements on treble, and bass for the bass versions of the new KZ IEMs. https://preview.redd.it/rwodxqaqc3yf1.png?width=2400&format=png&auto=webp&s=cef5c06819544d7d3340234c1640b7dc24e72474

The original EDX Pro is really more on the V-shaped bright tuning, and many don't like its bright tuning. If you really like bass, Castor Harman is not your IEM. I would either suggest going to like Saga Bass or Castor Bass, or Dawn. Castor Harman (1100 switches), Gale, EDC Pro, EDX Pro 2, and Saga Balanced is more leaning towards balanced-ish tuning. Castor Harman (0000 switches) is more leaning to mild-V shaped bright, (0011 switches) neutral bright tuning Terms of improvement or any differences, if you want versatility and easy to adjust to almost any tuning, go for the Castor Harman (tuning switches and EQ) If you want to not fiddle with switches and/or EQ, go for the EDC Pro, EDX Pro 2, and Saga series.

The original EDX Pro is really more on the V-shaped bright tuning, and many don't like its bright tuning. If you really like bass, Castor Harman is not your IEM. I would either suggest going to like Saga Bass or Castor Bass, or Dawn. Castor Harman (1100 switches), Gale, EDC Pro, EDX Pro 2, and Saga Balanced is more leaning towards balanced-ish tuning. Castor Harman (0000 switches) is more leaning to mild-V shaped bright, (0011 switches) neutral bright tuning Terms of improvement or any differences, if you want versatility and easy to adjust to almost any tuning, go for the Castor Harman (tuning switches and EQ) If you want to not fiddle with switches and/or EQ, go for the EDC Pro, EDX Pro 2, and Saga series.

7Hz Zero 2 is good on gaming. With the KZ Castor (it depends on what Castor you wanted) as there are 2 version of the Castor. Silver Harman Tuned and Black Bass Boosted Tuned: Black Bass Boosted Tuned is usually recommended by majority of the YouTuber reviewers, but its only great for EDM, Hip-Hop, and Rap music and not so good for competitive gaming personally, but great for single player games. Silver Harman Tuned is more versatile, can be tuned either for gaming and/or music. And can handle more than the Bass Improved version and also decent for general gaming as well.

Taurus is really tuned for a more neutral-ish or neutral bright preference. Its close to my JM-1 +10 dB bass shelf PEQ of my AM16 Balanced. But for my mild-v preference, ill rather pick OG Castor Harman at 1100 or Castor Pro Bass for more bass-focused tuning. Or just use my AM16 Balanced with no EQ, Taurus would just be a side or downgrade personally. But I know some will buy this set as their first.

I have seen a comment (maybe from Audio Amigo) where the Soundbrenner might just be a rebadged TRN ST2 shells with an additional BA driver. Seen frequency response graphs of it somewhere from ASR Forums, wacky and maybe shouty and shrilly graph. https://preview.redd.it/05hgzaaiqxqf1.png?width=2400&format=png&auto=webp&s=bc1d239095b5772b4ab21beb2e973abb64f6a65d I would personally stay away from the Soundbrenner if this is the actual graph, I would rather personally use my KZ Castor, AM16 Balanced, or my EDC Pro over this. In your case, go ahead and buy the Kefine Klean!

Newer KZ sets like the ZS10 Pro 2 are semi-open backs, but they are not really open-backs they still has significant noise cancellation passively. All because of eartip rolling, invest on other eartips. I myself has the KZ Castor, it has a big hole on its bottom with filters. You could kinda hear stuffs outside a bit, but with the right eartips and volume you can't even hear the outside even people yelling.

Understandable. For less, the KZ Castor Pro obliterates them.

I love the castor blacks. I don’t need another iem.

Buy a KZ Castor. Make sure it’s the black version. It has more bass.

To keep it simple, yes the other version is clearer with less bass. It is not expensive. To plug them into your phone get an Apple dongle dac. It is very cheap as well. Hope you like them.

I use my castor pros for gaming. They sound great. I can pinpoint enemies in CoD, Rivals, or single player games like Oblivion.

KZ Castor Pros are very cheap with some amazing bass. It's probably my favourite all around iem. The Cadenza is good for more orchestral or relaxed type of songs.

I had just the OG with Bass , very good The pro with bass is a different beast. If you want relaxed smooth thick bass , the OG is better , the pro has somewhat coloured enhanced mids and all cymbals sound the same . Imagine the old one note bass of cheap speakers , now flip this into treble . I prefer the OG bass than the pro bass

There appears to be a massive dip in the upper mids low treble on the castor pro bass . Also when there’s a lot of badly constructed treble in the track, the OG sounds better Another thing, at low volumes the OG carries the bass better I have both and like them both , but the OG version plays better on most tracks except where there is too much bass

previously i'd say Rosefinch, but i got CCA Trio, and it technically is pretty much the same thing as Castor Pro Bass version. It's gonna be a bit less rumbly, but definitely not less powerful, and in terms of tone and technicalities imo it's an upgrade as well.

I'm enjoying the lower ends so much that I'm starting to think I should not be enjoying songs this much for such a cheap IEM 😁

I like bass so I guess it's preference on the cheaper iems

if you have access to zvx pro i'd go for those otherwise i'd take the kz gale as a more balanced allrounder or caastor pro if you're a basshead

Buy kz castor pro.

Under $10 the best is the KZ EDC PRO (edx pro is another iem), use it with Kbear 08 eartips. In Aliexpress (sometimes using coins) you can get for $8-15 the ND planet, KZ Castor Pro/OG, KZ Libra Balanced/Hi res/X, KZ Saga balanced/bass, KZ ZVX pro, all of them have good reviews and comments. The Kbear 07 and 08 eartips are good for them.

Месье! Посоветуй Не могу подобрать уши к shanling m1 plus. Слушаю в основном металы и электронку. Сразу кажется с непривычки, что вообще нет баса Castor pro с тублерами 1100 - уже почти к ним привык, но чего то не хватает. V образные TRN white tiger - середина и вокал сильно лезут вперед, отодвигая остальное на задний план. че-то не идут Truthear Crinacle zero - слабо звучат, но дефолтный кабель паршивый, норм кабель еще едет Вот теперь на форуме вместо вышеперечисленных рекомендуют эти KZ ZVX PRO, мол на голову выше звучат, хотя везде пишут, что баса маловато Как бы ты сравнил эти уши с вышеперечисленными? Спасибо!

Cant go wrong with the castor pros I’ll say…

Should I choose this or Kinera wyvern Abyss or Kz castor pro harman for comp gaming

Yep it destroys those but it's quite a chunky iem, the bass edition is not for gaming though it is boomy and we can't play any fps games with those

Get Castor Pro + a cheap DAC like an Audiocular D13 or portronics converter. If your budget is too tight, get CCA Trio instead.

If you end up choosing Castor, I recommend you get the Castor Pro for the same price. They fixed some shortcomings of the non-pro version.

Kz castor pro harman+bass is the best sounding under 2k in my ears. But it comes with a 3.5mm jack so you'll have to get an adaptor for it, portronics sells good enough connectors for cheap

Less boom? I think you just don't have a proper ear seal. Try and get some foam eartips to emphasize the bass more. Also, try and get the castor pro bass.

Castor bass is kinda muddy, but the castor pro bass has a more controlled bass.

Op was looking for more bass. Castor pro bass is where you to go for bass. Cadenza is v shaped, but isn't known for bass. Also, it's way beyond the price range of chu ii. 7hz zero 2 is more balanced with a bit of bass. Castor pro bass is still better for bass. Wyvern abyss is meh. I got ok bass. It's just smooth listening, but it's not good for bass. I actually sold my wyvern because it's shell is absurdly big for a single dynamic driver. I won't recommend something that doesn't qualify for what the person is looking for.

Castor Pro (Black) is not bad, especially if you like bass music. The silver (Harman Target) version heard that it is not bad also... I think it is the only one in these 3 selection that have 2 x 10mm Dynamic Driver, the other 2 if I remember correctly is single dynamic driver.

Castor Pro have a girthy nozzle, might be too much for people with smaller ear canals.

Castor Pro (Black) is not bad, especially if you like bass music. The silver (Harman Target) version heard that it is not bad also... I think it is the only one in these 3 selection that have 2 x 10mm Dynamic Driver, the other 2 if I remember correctly is single dynamic driver.

Dunno about the other 3, but I like Castor Pro, it is a very enjoyable IEM for the price.

Hello! I'm new to the whole iem world and months ago i bought the KZ Castor Pro Harman because i read they're kinda neutral and wanted something cheap to replace the headphones i used to use at work to edit the audio of webinars, podcasts, etc. and they do the job! However, they're too uncomfortable on my ears after some time thus cannot use them to actually listen to music. I tried using the foam tips they came with but they're just too big for my ears. So anyways, i want iems to listen to music! I listen to a variety of genres but i mainly gravitate towards [industrial techno ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jto9SRC5wMU), [industrial](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjaTqvJy6cc), and [heavy metal](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3I3-KTJbtY). so it'll be nice if you could help me choose the best signature for these genres. My budget is...idk...100-200? as long as they're comfortable i'm game. Thank you!

Thanks for the review, I have the Castor Bass and Harman and Castor Pro Bass versions, maybe I'll buy the Castor Pro Harman someday

Do you think it's worth buying Harman Castor Pro? It's on sale now 🤔

Hello, I would like to discuss Kz castor pro, which is getting a lot of attention these days. As you know, castor pro has two versions. The sounds of the two are quite different. I hope this review will help you choose the right version for you. 1. Design Bass: It is gorgeous black, and goes well with dark-colored cables. It is glossy and has a smooth surface. Harman: It's a nice silver, and it goes well with white cables. It's glossy, but not as much as the bass version. Winner- tie 2. Details Bass: It's very detailed in the $15 range. Honestly, it's a level where there's nothing to be desired. This level of detail is amazing, even though it's Bassy. Harman: The details are better than the Bass version. I think it's the best for the price. Winner- Harman version 3. Resolution Bass: handles complex tracks with no problems. You rarely experience difficulties even on tracks that feature a lot of instruments such as rock and metal. Harman: It's a little bit better at resolution than Pro Bass. But it doesn't make much difference. And there's also one problem that we're going to talk about later. But it's also great. Winner- Tie 4. Sound stage Bass: It provides enough soundstage for the price, making it easy to distinguish the location of each instrument. Harman: The soundstage is wider than the bass version. This is something you wouldn't easily expect from an iem at this price point. Winner- Harman version 5. Tonal balance Bass: There are quite a few low notes, but they don't invade the mid easily. Mid note shows off the vocals well with the right amount, but it's not a vocal-oriented balance. High notes, are a significant upgrade over the og version, providing a lot of detail, proper airiness, and dynamics. Harman: It's bright. The lower notes are relatively high and the attenuation is fast. You may not feel the lower notes very much. Mid-tone is not noticeable, either. But it doesn't smear the vocals. High notes are highlights. Full of airyness, they are spicy enough to enjoy. Winner- Bass version 6. musical instrument representation Bass: As a basshead, it handles drums or bass guitars that require deep resonances pretty well. Same goes for cymbals, strings. Overall, excellent instrumental representation in the price point. Harman: The depth of the drum can sometimes be shallow. This reduces the grandeur a little bit. Well, this is one of the few minus points that pro harman has. And the string instruments are a little bit faster than it should be. The expression of the other instruments is great, like other dd iems. Winner-Bass version Add - Switch Recommendation Bass: I prefer DDDD, UDDD. This gives me a good tuning that's close to neutral at the same time, with not too many but sufficient bass. It also keeps the details a little better. Harman: I recommend UUDD. It's still treble head, so it doesn't have a lot of bases, but it does have enough in this setting. Conclusion These two iem are quite awesome for the price. Most commendably, Kz has succeeded in securing both technicality, and musicality. The two versions are quite different in nature, and they are complementary to each other, so having them at the same time is not a bad choice. So What's a better iem? Of course, Harman is ahead in terms of technicality and Bass is ahead in terms of overall musicality. But I think the bass version is an iem that's a little bit more suited to a lot of people's tastes. This is because the tone doesn't get tired of easily, and the tuning is more of an all-rounder. The final winner is castor pro bass. ( Of course, you could also prefer the harman version depending on your preference.) Thank you for reading my review, and any questions are welcome.

Thanks bro. actually when I just got it out of the box, I preferred harman. after a few months of enjoying it, i became more fond to bass.

Technically, I don't think there is a product that outperform pro harman within the price range.

Yes of course.. in my budget list top 10

Castor pro is much better than waner

Vader high res or castor pro harman. Cause you already have basshead

(Im the writer of this post) Castor pro harman simply better.

Castor pro is similar in value, or rather higher than the most recommended 30-40 bucks iem at the moment. Same for both versions. I prefer castor pro bass more.. It's better than kefine delci for me. Actually, I have several excellent iem for near 150 dollars, but I use castor pro very often and I'm impressed with that.

No, I just meant that the castor pro is not too far behind when used with 150 bucks iem.

But I think castor pro is worth at least $35~40$.

Castor pro harman/bass, zvx pro..and both versions of vader.

I've used a lot of budget iems, so I think it's credible to a certain extent. There's no question, especially in terms of technicality of castor pro.

**QKZ HBB:** Has more bass compared to Castor Pro, but comes with slight compromises in Mids and Treble. In certain songs the bass tends to mask the vocals. The Treble is smooth for some, but it is on the darker side. **Castor Pro:** Has Bass and good sub bass rumble and it is one of the sets that maintains a balance in everything. It has Sub bass, mid bass, decent Mids and resolving Treble. For me, this is the jack of all trades set under 20 dollars. Most bassy iems tend to sacrifice on mid bass punch to maintain the Mids. This does provide that mid bass punch but at a cost of harman-ish Mids.

**Castor:** Has punchy mid bass. The slam hits hard, but with a compromise on thin mids. Treble is sharp. Sub bass is sub par. If you only care about the mid bass slam, go for it. Keep in mind, Castor can have distortion on the treble. It's not as EQ friendly, at least for my standard. And I don't even make drastic changes. **Castor Pro:** Has lesser mid bass as compared to Castor, but the strong sub bass presence makes it overall good. The mids are not thin, it's neutral-ish but definitely not as warm as Chu 2. It's just fine. Treble is well done here. Can be sibilant for some people, but not as much. The upgrades here are definitely the balance in tonality and resolution. This has good sound imaging too. It's bassy yet balanced due to not lacking in treble. Compared to Pro, castor sounds horrible to me.

For Gaming Castor Pro Silver would be better. It has better Resolution and the soundstage gives a surrounding effect feeling.

Yes, the filter is thin and prone to get clogged with wax. In my case, it was never an issue. But, yes if you are not careful with it, the filter needs to be replaced from time to time.

**KZ Saga Bass Edition:** If you want bass, alongwith no compromises on Mids and Treble. KZ Saga is overall the best due to its superior tonality. You can listen to various genres unlike the others. **QKZ x HBB & Rosefinch:** Strong Sub bass, warm vocals, lacks details in treble. This is great for Hip Hop, but might not enjoy other genres. The same goes for Roseflinch. **KZ Castor/Castor Pro:** Castor has more Mid bass, punchy bass. Decent rubble. Thin mids, shouty treble. Castor Pro is more balanced, it's the best of both worlds, KZ Saga has better tonality, but Castor Pro has slightly better technicalities. It's very EQ friendly. https://preview.redd.it/0vpgb08z7r8e1.png?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2d12b0acf442af8984f685492e0f7fe1c82a41e8 KZ Saga is overall best imo, due to how it's tuned.

**KZ Saga Bass Edition:** If you want bass, alongwith no compromises on Mids and Treble. KZ Saga is overall the best due to its superior tonality. You can listen to various genres unlike the others. **QKZ x HBB & Rosefinch:** Strong Sub bass, warm vocals, lacks details in treble. This is great for Hip Hop, but might not enjoy other genres. The same goes for Roseflinch. **KZ Castor/Castor Pro:** Castor has more Mid bass, punchy bass. Decent rubble. Thin mids, shouty treble. Castor Pro is more balanced, it's the best of both worlds, KZ Saga has better tonality, but Castor Pro has slightly better technicalities. It's very EQ friendly. https://preview.redd.it/0vpgb08z7r8e1.png?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2d12b0acf442af8984f685492e0f7fe1c82a41e8 KZ Saga is overall best imo, due to how it's tuned.

--- ## The Context The Kiwi Ears Cadenza has gained attention as a potential upgrade in the budget IEM category, particularly when it comes to driver and sound quality. My goal with this review is to evaluate whether it truly offers an improvement over other popular IEMs in a similar price range, such as the Tangzu Wan’er SG and Salnote Zero 2. Additionally, I aim to test the full potential of its driver to see how it performs under various conditions. This review is based on my hands-on testing and overall listening experiences. --- ## Review ### 1. Build Quality The build quality is what you can expect from a $30 IEM: it's cheap. The KZ Castor Pro feels more premium. The IEMs are so lightweight that I feel like there's nothing on my ears. It's a good thing when it is about comfort. About the stock cable I don't feel confident with it; it's very thin. Overall, it's forgivable as the IEM looks good, at least. --- ### 2. Sound When I put these on with the stock eartips, I was extremely disappointed. The sound was awful—bright and sibilant. I tried every included tip and size, but the result was the same. Then I decided to use the eartips from my KZ Castor, and it sounded good. Personally, I am not a fan of this type of tuning, but there are times when I prefer a balanced sound. So, this does suit the mood. It's boring, but it's fine. --- **__Bass:__** The bass is present but lacks weight and depth. It leans toward a flatter, more neutral presentation with minimal sub-bass extension. While it avoids muddiness, it also doesn’t provide the engaging, punchy low-end that some people might prefer (including me), especially for genres like Hip-Hop or EDM. --- **__Mids:__** The mids sounded clear, lacking warmth, but they were neutral and enjoyable. I enjoyed the acoustic guitar and piano so much on Cadenza! It puts my KZ Castor Pro to shame. The upper mids were not as forward as the Wan’er, but both male and female vocals sounded decent on Cadenza. If I am to compare the Cadenza with the Wan’er, the latter sounds fuller and warmer. This is probably due to the mid-bass scoop on the Cadenza. Still, it’s fairly good. --- **__Treble:__** The treble is where the Cadenza’s issues with stock eartips were most noticeable. It’s overly bright and prone to sibilance, which can make extended listening uncomfortable. With better eartips, the treble smooths out and becomes tolerable, though it still leans toward a brighter presentation and might need to EQ. The soundstage and imaging are fairly average. Nothing too great in terms of accuracy and separation. Busy genres like rock music can sound congested, but I think it does fairly well for the budget. --- ### Do I feel like the need to EQ? For the most part? No. But, I do find it sibilant at higher volume. So, the only adjustment that I had to make is on the Treble side. --- ## 3. Driver This is the only thing where I was impressed and really felt like it was an upgrade! The Beryllium dynamic driver is impressive. It passed my distortion test at max volume. It's very EQ friendly. Although, it struggles when there is more than +1db gain in the sub bass region and use Wavelet's "Bass Tuner" with Sustain Compressor mode. The limiter needs to be turned on for this. With stock tuning it's not a problem tho. But, to be honest, I have yet to find a set that can handle that thing without applying a limiter. Even my bassy over the ear Sony headphones couldn't handle it. So, I call this driver competent for EQ'ing. --- ## 4. Conclusion While I do like the Cadenza, but other than the driver quality, there's not much difference I've felt while listening to this. It doesn't do anything exceptionally well. It's only recommended as the first IEM if the budget is not tight. But, if someone already got something like Salnote Zero 2, Wan'er SG or Gate, this upgrade doesn't make any sense.

Castor Pro is exciting and fun, but not EQ friendly (if you are using Apple music with max volume it can't handle Sonu Nigam, Shreya Ghoshal, Atif Aslam and Arijit 's high pitch vocals) western songs will not have any issues. With stock tuning, there will be no problem, but if you EQ the treble region, there will be distortion. On Spotify, it's very pleasant even with EQ. If I am to compare Cadenza and Castor Pro with this EQ profile: https://preview.redd.it/qo1y7i1a07ee1.png?width=2400&format=png&auto=webp&s=3941703199f3e3dc6571989e848b98877f628143 On Spotify, Castor Pro gives me an Eargasm... It makes me feel excited and enjoy the music. Cadenza is just okay and sharp. They sound identical but Castor Pro will have warmth making the music more listenable.

If your budget is tight, and you only want Bass QKZ x HBB is what you need. If you want Bass and open up other genres aside from Hip Hop, KZ Saga is good at that. Saga has more bass and tonality than Castor Pro, but Castor Pro has slightly better technicals.

All the three IEMs are somewhat specialized or niche in my opinion. None of these does something exceptionally well in everything. But, if you are talking about versatile IEMs then the list goes like this: Moondrop Chu 2> Castor Pro > Wan'er If your priority is Bass and fun sounding IEM that is good for gaming and music: Castor Pro> Chu 2 > Wan'er Castor Pro is good if you want a fun V-shaped sound. Why you don't get many reviews of it mostly because reviewers do not like KZ or the sound signature it offers. So, if you want insight of Castor Pro, you have to look for user reviews. Or check the review of ToneDeafMonk's Castor Bass. Castor Pro is an upgrade and fixes the things that Castor Bass had. If your priority is vocals and smooth treble: Wan'er outshines everything in this price range. Additionally, there's Tripowin Vivace if you want something that is versatile and good for gaming in that price range.

If we are talking about a fun V-shaped sound like Castor Pro, that excels in Bass, mids and treble, I don't think there's any other good contender. Castor Pro is really a specialist. The other options are QKZ x HBB and Rosefinch, but they have bad mids performance. The bass often bleed into the mids. Sometimes masking the vocals.

Honestly, I don't think there's anything better than Castor Pro under $25 if you are talking about a fun V-shaped sound signature. You may find recommendations with more bass, but there's nothing that does bass, mids and treble as good as Castor Pro does. I switched many budget IEMs, the most time I spent with are Castor Pro and Cadenza. I love Cadenza for how good it is for EQ'ing and the comfort. It's super lightweight. If I have to criticize Castor Pro, it's mainly because it kinda struggle with EQ. I hope they fix it with future IEMs.

The Castor Pro is a really good IEM; especially if you like good bass. Then you have to see with what source you read your music.

Chu, SSR, Castor Pro and many cheaper ones. This is the most FOMO based hobby I’ve ever been in.

Enhorabuena por la reseña. Soy usuario de KZ desde el año pasado que me compré mis primeros IEM: Los Castor Bass Es. Hace unos días compré los Castor Pro Harman... y menuda decepción para mi gusto. Súper brillantes en agudos hasta el ounto de molestar. Quería algo menos basshead y no lo acerté. Devolví y me compre los Wan'er Jade. Espectaculares. Tengo en mente estos q reseñas, pero me frena el hecho que sean abiertos.... los uso en transporte público...

KZ castor pro (harman edition) is pretty good for gaming at budget .

Kz zsn pro is too old to consider. Meron ako nyan dati and, and hindi naman masama sound but I prefer Salnotes Zero in terms of gaming and music. Yung first 3 choices mo dun ka pumili. Yung kz castor pro ata yung magandang budget iem kung prefer mo kz brand.

Get the KZ castor pro, also get Audiocular D07 DAC with it. These iems are great I got them a few weeks ago but I noticed that they definitely need a dac to perform at their best. My phone is Redmi note 9 pro max which has a headphone jack, but yet I got a dac and the sound difference is definitely noticeable on a large scale.

I get a tinny distortion on the right side. Only happens in specific parts of tracks that have bass and male vocals,

Out of those options I would chose the castor pro, also give the kinera celeste wyverns a look

Thanks I have those as well, they are way too bassy for me and at least for me are not comfortable at all and fall out very often :(

Got into IEMs this year after a few wireless sets died on me..... Started with budget ones and now have a small collection - Castor Pro tuned for bass, TW SG2 for daily use, and Chu 2 for vocals/classical. Would love to try something higher tier like the Horizon (or the Odyssey 2) to see what multi-driver magic sounds like!

I’ve been testing these 2 iem’s for the past month and I think I prefer the Artti R6 for Gaming and Castor Pros for music, the Artti r6 are much cheaper aswell, I usually see them under $10! Although the sound quality is much more “basic” or natural on Artti r6 I think that’s the reason why it’s better for gaming. Some sounds can be way too sharp if the volume is too loud, like gun shots can be too sharp at times I gotta turn the volume down a bit and it usually solves that. The castor pros on the other hand feel much more premium and with the tuning switches, you can tune it to your preference. The castor pros sound very good but in my opinion they can be a bit too quiet for fps gaming. I would say they’re the opposite of the R6 and sound much more warm. kind of muffled/quiet when playing fps games and I gotta try a bit harder to listen for footsteps. This is just my observations so far but I will continue testing. Again, this is just my opinion, I’m new to IEM’s so if my explanation sounds funny I’m sorry 😆 I will be purchasing a DAC soon and testing them again to see if I notice any changes. I know that a DAC is almost a must for IEM’s, so this is probably not the most accurate comparison.

those are fantastic for the price.. i got yesterday the castor pro harman .. really love the tunig is so crisp textured and sound is perceived distant like with more expensive iem

Get castor pro bass or edc pro, get them from [https://www.headphonezone.in](https://www.headphonezone.in) or [https://conceptkart.com/](https://conceptkart.com/) Both are pretty good. Edc pro costs 600 without mic, or 750 for with mic. Castor pro is pretty much better version of Castor Chu 2 & zero 1 both are outdated.

Well it depends of course on your music preferences, finances and source of music. May I suggest you disclose a couple of tracks you absolutely adore and would want to sound brilliant with the new IEM. Based on the genres you're into, the recommendations will change. Also mention your budget. Second, unless you are monitoring recorded/ live studio music, analysing technicals, you are not going to enjoy flat tuned iems that people generally recomend. Most people prefer iems with overall good textured thumping bass and sub bass rumble, clean strong vocals and airy crispy treble with a wide soundstage. If you have the option to physically try out IEMs before buying them, you might be able to first time right on purchase. Else, start small and go for starter iems and accessories. Once you are sure about what you like, you'll be able to research and find your endgame iem. I am listing some starter iems based on my listening preferences: Single Drivers. 1. Truthear GATe - Good single 10mm Dynamic Driver, fun sound tuning. Nice bass and vocals , smooth treble. Can be Equlised to make it amazing. Cons. Cheap cable, plasticy, needs 8 core upgrade cable to improve music quality and eq above 4 db boost. 2. Kiwi Ears Cadenza - Good single 10mm DD , fun sound, nice bass , smooth vocals, smooth treble. Can handle EQ well. Looks great. EQ can boost bass and treble and vocals . Cons. Bass is good you will love iems with more thump. 3. 7Hz Crinacle Salnotes Dioko - Single planar driver 14.5 mm. Clean tuning , focus on mids and vocals. Great for vocals and classical music. Can EQ will to boost bass and treble to sound amazing. Good looking set and kit Cons. Can sound muddy with EDMs with out EQ. 4. ARTTI T10 . Good single planar driver 14.2 mm. Great tuning , good bass texture , mids and lows. Sounds amazing on female vocals and instrumental tracks. Good kit, ok looks . Cons. Looks, needs EQ to boost lower mids for male vocals . Tambre is very planar and may sound different to sensitive ears. I recommend Truthear GATe with a better cable or the Kiwi Ears Cadenza as is. Multiple drivers. 1. Kz Vader. 3, 8mm dd drivers. Good bass, mids and treble. Nice soundstage, can handle eq boosts well. Good sound stage. Cons. Need cable upgrade to 8 core (qkz t1 cheap will do) . 2. Kz AM16 bass edition- 8 driver all BA. Good bass, good vocals and treble. Great musicality and comparable to expensive DD iems. Cons. Need better cable 8 to 16 cores. EQ is tricky as the low frequency BA driver is easy to boost , mids not so much. 3. Kz Castor Pro. 2 10mm DD driver. Good bass , good mids and treble.. Can be Equalised to boost bass and treble to sound like endgame bass iems like Punch audio Martillo . Cheap and dynamic. Cons. Need a 8 or 16 core cable (qkz t1) . With EQ this can amaze people . 4. Letshuoer DZ4- three 6mm DDs with a passive radiator. Great sound, good bass and treble. Sounds nice without EQ. Mid focused and perfect for vocals . Good kit and cable. Cons. Looks. 6mm dds do not handle much EQ. Sound is not the best for EDM. I recommend the KZ Castor Pro bass version or the Letshuer DZ4. With EQ and new cable the KZ Castor Pro or Vader will sound better than others.

Kz Castor pros are goated for the price range and they are discounted on AliExpress rn, they are kind of heavy and big compared to the others tho so depending on your ear anatomy you might need to buy sm better eartips to get the best comfort and sound experience out of them

I’d say pass both and go for the KZ Dawn Silver. It has more bass then both QKZxHBB and Castor Pro. I’m my opinion, the Dawn Silver is also more clear sounding than QKZxHBB. I have all three.

So I've had my Castor pros for about 3 days now and I've got them to where I am happy with the tuning. For mostly classic rock, metal, stuff not extremely bass heavy. So now I am once again on the hunt, this time I was wondering what a good not pricey (I'm poor) lol, more bass heavy but still punchy. I listen to some rap also but mostly hardcore techno 155+bpm, but I still want it to be punchy. Any recommendations will help. Thx guys😊.

Castor pros, silver is the Harman curve, the black ones are the bass enhanced.☺️ I bought them as my first and I'm very happy.

Id actually say to go for KZ castor pro in the same price. Its highs arent sharp and can be tuned physically and the bass is complementary as its being produced by a different driver. I use it on iphone 15 with audiocular d10 plus apple music highres lossless. Its amazing bang for buck and also if used with android, we can use eq and atmos experience is better . If it dint have cables, I wouldn’t even use airpods pro.

Its 1850 in conceptkart

I have two sets of KZ. Castor Pros and Vader Pros. Both are reallllly good sounding to me, especially Harmon Target with adjustments. The Vader Pros are incredible, honestly. The Castor Pros are like BASS, but still tunable. Depends on what kind of bass you're looking for. Sub-bass is best on the Vaders.

No one mentioning the EDC Pro or newer Saga? I have all three you have listed. Of the three, I like the Wan'er the best, but only if you cover the front vent to give it a bass boost. Stock, it's great for movies and K/J-pop. Cover the front vent, it's now good for EDM (think PulsRadio Dance's poppish EDM) The Castor Pro Bass is a bit too V shaped for me. The bass and trebles are the best of the three. And has the most technical build {2 DDs) and requires more power, so buy a good DAC with 30mW per channel. And you can EQ the mids to give you an even better sound. The Chu 2 is decent Just... decent. Nothing special. I'll get hate for it, but to me, the sound boring. So I'd rank them in this order 1 Wan'er (with front vent covered. If not covered, then go with Castor Pro Bass) 2 Castor Pro Bass (probably best of three for gaming) 3 Chu 2 ...or buy the new KZ Saga and be done with it.

If your audio source is coming from a PC, I'd suggest the KZ PRX. Great planar sound, But it does require more power to run them, which your PC will provide. But between the two choices above, definitely the Zero Red. It's a decent sounding, dual dynamic driver IEM. I own a pair. If you're more into bassier tunes, like EDM, then maybe the Zero Blue. I don't own the blues, but my other dual dynamic driver IEM is my Castor Bass Pro. It's more V shaped than the Zero Red. And to me, better for EDM.

What are you looking to accomplish? Gaming? Music, and which genre? I have the Castor Pro Bass and the Wan'er 1. I like bassy tracks (EDM) and prefer the Castor Pro Bass, though I need a stronger DAC than what the easy driving Wan'er needs.

From that list Castor or Castor Pro but honestly I prefer Vader Balanced, Zenith, AM16, and ZS12 Pro X as my favorite KZ IEMs.

From that list Castor or Castor Pro but honestly I prefer Vader Balanced, Zenith, AM16, and ZS12 Pro X as my favorite KZ IEMs.

Go for KZ castor pro Harman (the silver color). All of these are bassy in general, the silver castor pro is tuned much more for clarity and balance. Zero 2 recommendation is weird… look at the graph yourself. It’s much less bass. Although it can still kick if you ever want it to because it has tuning switches to increase bass. https://preview.redd.it/m8gpf102x7ve1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=46b8f315171a4df9d507979a9b8d88a66448f27f

If you go on KZ website and look at castor pro model it’ll say the two different models, just on AliExpress anyone can sell products, so some sellers just don’t put that the colors are different versions.

Castor pro black under 2k. For a more balanced harman ish tuning castor pro silver or 7hz zero2.

Gate, castor pro black, simgot ew100, tanchjim bunny, tanchjim zero ultima, nd planet many options. Get whichever fits your library.

From my experience, gate for treble, castor pro for bass, bunny for balanced. Watch reviews, read reddit, got to squiglink and see the graphs. I admit there's a learning curve but it's worth it.

Castor pros

I have the KZ caster Pro, KZ x Angel ears, KZ × HBB DQ6S, TRN Conch and the TRN V10 Pro ♥

I got a set of each and I could still not fit them, sadly and they were not the smallest I had found either. I got a random cheapo pair off AliExpress and they're about half a millimetre smaller, but still not small enough :(

I was too damn confused but eventually went with the kz castor pro

The Castors do not rumble that much, but boy do they SLAM. Subbass is kind of subdued and midbass gets on the spotlight for this set. The KZ Castor Pros are more balanced in terms of rumble and slam. For the other 2 sets I can't say much, but the frequency response graphs may give you an idea.

The kz castor pros are good so are the kz edc pro and cheap the wan er jade dragon is also good. Any of the ones you have listed are pretty good as well. I also like the ccz dc02 and ccz dc03 alot for their price which is usually sub 20 dollars.

Scandals and haters aside, I genuinely believe that most KZ IEMs are at least impressive, if not great. IMO the Castor and Castor Pro are probably the best for the price. That said, the ZS 12 Pro, shoots way above its weight.

Scandals and haters aside, I genuinely believe that most KZ IEMs are at least impressive, if not great. IMO the Castor and Castor Pro are probably the best for the price. That said, the ZS 12 Pro, shoots way above its weight.

Nice review bro, I personally prefer the Harman to the Bass Enhanced Castor pro

Castor pro are more big but also ergonomic and confortable compared to the og, similar weight

If you want something which is nuetral and clear with good bass get the CHU 2(3.5mm) If you only care about BASS then get the castor pro. The have really prominent bass but lack clarity in highs. Tangzu Wan'er have a shitty build quality, since you come from the samsung AKGs, tangzu will feel really cheap, and they have okayish sound quality with nice bass. overall i would suggest moondrop chu 2, really great build(metallic/aluminium alloy) built, and have a good balanced sound with a nice bass that doesnt get into your brain, KZ castors are purely bass prominent!

I'm just a budget guy, but empathizing with the basshead stuff. I add a +15 ( or more) shelf to my S12s and still not satisfied. Never heard the deuce, but use it as a baseline target on various sets. For $15 you can pick up an 80 ohm, which should make a big difference. I'm assuming you prefer avoiding eq for convenience. 15 ohms doesn't do it for me. Personally I add a couple DB of sub bass over the Deuce target together with a 75+ resistance adapter (eq and plugs are sonically different and not interchangeable). W/ this setup, bass on the E20 and Castor Pro is absolutely ridiculous, leaving the Legato w/ shelf and Rosefinch w/shelf in the dust. Both sub and mid.

I have Castor Pro Black and Tangzu Wan'er, for me Castor Pro sounds better more clear and detailed but the comfort on my ear is pretty bad I can't have It for long time, Wan'er on the other hand is just a little bit worst not much, and It's comfortable to use for many hours. So I would recommend Wan'er, is a safe option, I haven't tried Chu II It could possibly be a good option aswell since most people like It.

$16? The kz castor pro alone already cost that, this collection cost around 100~200$

I have the Chu 2 and Castor Pro Bass version. The Chu 2s are way better all around than the Castor Pro Bass - way clearer detail, midrange, treble, more ergonomic for small ears, build quality, etc. I did notice the Chu 2 sounding a bit dark and metallic & sibilant in songs with a lot of cymbals, but it's still way better than Castor Pro Bass for everything but mid bass quantity.

For the price of Kinera Celest Wyvern, you can buy two choices of KZ Castor Pro (In my ₱lace). Oddly enough, you can even toy with both by having two different types of Castor in each ear as the fit feels the same. This method sacrificing stereo imaging but enhances monotone expansion that still feels like stereo...

For me, it's currently KZ Castor Pro with a very unique mod for the eartips. https://preview.redd.it/2xnucw1azdae1.jpeg?width=4064&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6c3dfd7fe12e4673b8ed9845b96bdbd7420bee28 My ears have tasted sweet honey which have never before after doing this. A simple upgrade for eartips led me to a stopping tier.

This is made possible doing this to open nozzles which I think that are more than 6mm diameter. The [eartips](https://ph.shp.ee/mzxzdE5) are abnormally thin. **Castor Pro *Silver* Hardware Tuning**: UDUU. **Soundstage**: Suddenly felt small but anechoic. Feels good for my preference. The interchange is overwhelming and synthetic. Maybe I'd say, a prism shaped room. **Imaging**: An imitated joint 3 way channel surrounded sound precision or an expansive 2 way channel distinguished spatial stereo effect. The two depends on which becomes the dominant frequency of the sound genre. *(FPS gaming felt astronomical!)* **Seperation**: Wonderful accuracy *(more than ever!)* but makes the mids slightly lower and a bit penetrable *or* transparent in some cases. It's an amazing enhancement! **Bass**: Less air, but the pressure snares. Remains the typical and genuine dynamic performance. Give an impact when treble peaks and collaborates better forefront image. **Mids**: gains some opacity for some busy tracks. Gets a sacrificed volume just a bit when monitored for seperation, but still existent to listen consistently. **Treble**: Sweeter and hard to unnoticeable despite the tight gap space. Totally gets *hydrophobic* to sub-bass and subsequently bullies the central mids. **Pitch**: Gains up only when frequencies are peaking specially the mid and high melody tones. Amazingly limpid I guess. **Octave**: It is well controlled, but I think its subtly affect the mid-bass a bit. **Comfort**: Your typically opinions for KZ every stock eartips whether it is good or bad. This is good for me and seals well. I don't know what its going to be like for you. **Personal Taste**: My ears now have preferred capturing the imaging layers of what the mid frequencies are offering for my Castor Pro Silver after doing this to the nozzle. Im not a treblehead and my hardware tuning used to be *UUUD* at first, all *U* feels kinda aggressive. Now it's *UDUU* or *DDUD* which everything feels balanced and perfect in my scale ⚖️! I can't say this acts like narrow bore because I'm definitely sure it does not. I like clarity a lot to my music and I don't sense the aggressiveness of treble after switching an odd tuning combo which I'd never thought I'd like leave behind. The dynamic drivers now never felt lacking like I thought so before. At this point, I'd like to declare that these are my endgame for eartips, specifically for KZ Castor Pro only. It will permanently stay there without the need for a filter mesh.

You might not like its size if you think your ears are small. Specially the nozzles. This was my experiences the first time I wore the KZ Castor Pro. But now it's long-term comfortable. My ear contours have probably memorized its shape. Plus it digs deeper in my ear canal than my inferior KZ Castor even if both uses small eartips (I don't know why) But as for my modded eartips. You need small core eartips. Might be rare to find in your case though. https://preview.redd.it/1l4ztgsqdxbe1.jpeg?width=866&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dbe22cd972da73be882d84eacdef8db585c93e46

They're all cheap enough so i wouldn't sweat it. Wan'er and Castor Pro can be had for under $15. Little difference between them all, they are all good . Ps. Castor Pro's are ace.

Put it this way, because of them i have sold Castor Pro, Zero 2 and Chu 2. Tells you all you need to know!

I have same iem using it with spark dac ,love listening to rock.Please share your playlist

I bought Kz Castor Pro literally only for gaming. I set them to the overblown bass setting for extra boom, and it’s awesome. I wouldn't listen to music on them like this, but for games, it's a good and fun experience.

Yes. I don’t like bassy headphones for music, but I use those for gaming with maxed out bass switches and it’s great. Games usually don’t have enough bass by default so bassy headphones add more excitement.

Been using this to play COD since 2 days (4 hours each day) https://preview.redd.it/7wjlmuf60ise1.jpg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=78054a2a67181ff5552c8d396b5a1ea61dbc8147 I just got my hands on the 7Hz G1, and after testing it extensively, I have to say—this IEM is an absolute beast for gaming! **Build & Specs:** Driver: 1 Dynamic Driver Tuning: Fairly balanced with a wide soundstage Volume & Bass: Both are solid, no complaints here **Music Performance:** I'll be honest—while the G1 sounds good for music, it doesn’t quite have the same excitement factor as my other IEMs. I find my KZ Castor Pro and ZS12 Pro X to be better for music and movies. The G1 is clear and detailed, but it just doesn’t hit that "wow" factor for pure music enjoyment. **Gaming Performance - A-Tier!** Where the 7Hz G1 truly shines is in gaming. I tested it on Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 (Nuketown) and Warzone, and the experience was nothing short of amazing. (Warzone only for 4 hrs as it is paused for today) **Here’s what stood out:** Insanely Wide Soundstage – The G1 made Nuketown feel HUGE. Warzone’s larger maps are even more immersive. Pinpoint Positional Accuracy – I could clearly track footsteps, gunshots, and even subtle movements. Whether enemies were on the left, right, front, back, above, or below, I could hear it all. Crystal-Clear Footsteps & Cues – Footsteps were loud enough without getting underpowered by other sounds such as gunshots, grenades etc. DTS:X Ultra + Shooter Mode – I used this combo with no EQ, and it worked perfectly. Best COD Audio Setting? – I tried Treyarch Mix, Headphones, and Sucker Punch, but Home Theater Mode worked best for me. It made everything sound even more massive, immersive, and lifelike—I felt like I was actually inside the game. **Final Thoughts - Is It Worth It?** If you're looking for an IEM specifically for gaming, 7Hz G1 is an absolute steal. I was considering buying an expensive IEM just for gaming, but this saved me so much money while delivering performance a lot better than my expectations. I loved it! For music, it’s decent but doesn’t replace my Castor Pro or ZS12X. But for gaming? Easily the best IEM I’ve ever used. If you want insane spatial awareness, wide soundstage, and accurate positional audio for FPS games—this is the one to get. **(Do not spend anything more than this just for gaming because I think post this every other iem will have a diminishing return).** Let me know if you have any questions!

Hello, I have a question, between the kz castor pro harman vs bass, which do you like in terms of sound quality! do they have the same sound quality, it just the bass version has more bass, am I correct or nah?

I got kz castor pro (harman) last week, I been thinking if I should get the bass version! btw, I heard og castor (harman) is better than castor pro (harman), is that true?

I love my Caster Pros! Prob my favorite IEM I own

I have Castor Pro, and it's alright for gaming, but I'd recommend KZ Gale that I also have.

I like the sound quality on both, but in my case, Castor Pro is really uncomfortable. After a few minutes of using it, my right ear hurts a lot, and it becomes unbearable to use after a while. It might be due to the shape and size of my ear, so take note of that when you consider what to buy. You can hear where the footsteps/shots are coming from clearly in both of them. Castor Pro is also bassier than Gale, so it might affect immersion for you. I like it when the sound is very bassy in games, but I know people who prefer more neutral sound for gaming without much bass.

Couldn't use my castor pro because it hurt my ears. I tried switching to foam tips and the pain went away, but they were still very uncomfortable. Turned out, the nozzles were too big for my ears.

Kz castor pro is a very good budget option

I own both of these, both are great but Castor Pro edges out Wan'er in detail and bass by a little bit. Either of these, if you are only picking from these two, will probably give a good experience but my bet will be with the Castor Pro

Hi everyone. I am seeking an IEM that would be optimal for Call of Duty Mobile - Battle Royale. Some of the key things I am looking for in an IEM is soundstage and the ability to pick up with accurate detail directional cues such as foot steps and gun fire. I've went ahead and attached some images of IEMs that caught my eye. Side note, as an entry to IEMs from my Hyper X Cloud Alpha, I recently bought the KZ Castor Pro (Silver Balanced) and it has been tremendous for game play in Battle Royale while utilizing UUUU, and it's arguably better than the Hyper X Cloud Alpha paired with a DAC. Is stepping up to any of the pictured IEMs from the KZ Castor Pro (Silver) going to make any if at all better user experience and difference? Any suggestions of different brands or input will be greatly appreciated.

You brought up a crucial point: "The IEM won't matter if the game's audio quality can't harness its full potential." My take on that above mentioned quote is; an expensive IEM bought for gaming but tuned for the best possible spoken word or music experience may not be any different compared to a budget $10-50 or $50-150 price range IEM. The game I play isn't really complex in terms of sounds (eg. footsteps, gun fire, reload, vehicles, grenades, enemy classes activated etc). One thing the KZ Castor Pro (Silver) is falling short on is the "vibrations" or bass of the footsteps. For lack of better audio terms footsteps sound like a high toned click clack instead of click clack plus thuds. 🤣 As for those brands you've suggested, the KBEAR KB03 looks nice and the specs appear to be the best in what a gaming IEM should be for Call of Duty Mobile - Battle Royale.

Okay... Update regarding this post... Giving it a shot, I've recently bought the KZ - M2 Type C cable and connected my KZ Castor Pro (Silver Balanced) to it... This cable brought out the entirety of life for my purposes within the KZ Castor Pro (Silver Balanced). It added body to the whole sound profile and tamed the airy tin treble. It transformed the sound so much so that it is like having "ear radar" for getting the drop on enemies within Call of Duty Mobile - Battle Royale. There are three presets in the DAC of that cable and they can be toggled on the fly for music or gaming purposes. I chose the "Green Light" for my purposes of fps gaming... (Image Attached) So now what is my next step? It is just hard to grasp if there could be something better, yes there is praise for the Kefine Delci AE in fps games but is the step up to it going to really be a night and day difference? https://preview.redd.it/khgld2zx1txf1.jpeg?width=1220&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5ed725e413ccfc1f184f995645871b9419ae4da6

Qkz x hbb has way more rumble than castor bass (not pro). I don't think that pro really improves on that aspect. But you need to find the right tips for your ears. Stock qkz hbb tips kinda trash like on most budget iems. Qkz x hbb hades has even more bass, sub bass a little worse than qkz x hbb, but they're more comfortable at higher volume, but it's not for everyone and not for every type of music and it's harder to drive, but i really love them, they're my favorite with qkz x hbb atm. Castor and castor pro are also a little harder to drive. You won't find better bass quality with good quantity at this price than qkz x hbb. Kbear Rosefinch has more quantity but it lacks any rumble and punch for me. Kz saga bass could be a good competitor to qkz x hbb from what I've heard. Also there is new 7hz elua, wich is hbb colab, also could be something interesting, but a little bit more expensive. I'm waiting for both of those and more pairs to hear them, since i can't really find anything to replace qkz x hbb. I'd say go with qkz x hbb. They're absolute beasts for hip hop and any other genre really, if you're into dark sound signature which helps bass. Qkz x hbb hades are absolutely fucking insane for hip hop, but could be lacking in other genres, but i like them for most other music too. But for movies i always use qkz x hbb.

An older IEM called the QKZ x HBB would be better than the above selection although might not be available. I would rank KZ Castor /Pro (the silver one) top from the 3 At a slightly higher price, Tripowin x 0diBi Vivace would be way better than the above. But if budget is a concern stick to the above, as u might need to change the tips if u have fit issues, further increasing the price.

Chu 2 are very bad for gaming. I've never heard a serious person recc chu 2 especially for FPS games. Chu 2 arent good imo, bad cables, questionable build quality and bad imaging. Both tangzu waner and chu 2 are some of the worst for gaming, i think people who are recommending these have probably never tried multiple iems side by side. If u are playing some easy to track game, like CS2, valorant or something else with good staging then it will work ok but tougher games like Apex etc would give startled cat moments. I'd strongly suggest looking at these (ranked best to worse) * kefine delci ae * tripowin 0dibi vivace * truthear zero blue * kz castor harman (silver)/pro * qkz x hbb some channels like Fresh Reviews might be able to help u: [https://www.youtube.com/@FreshReviewsYT](https://www.youtube.com/@FreshReviewsYT)

True i bought the castor pro and it had lower volume in one of them and as you can guess I had to threaten them to return it literally

The bass should be enough. Unless you're a bass heads. I had a friend of mine try the OG Castor Bass, and he really liked it. For both music and FPS gaming. I'd say the safer bet is the Pros Harman. The bass is a little more refined compared to the OG version. If you need more bass for music, you can use the tuning switches and/or EQ. Another good alternative but not as 'fun' sounding as the castor line-up is the Kefine Klean with the black nozzle. They're better for competitive gaming, at least in my opinion. They're going for 30$ now on Aliexpress (screenshot is from Good Sound Audio Store) https://preview.redd.it/ed1936rmuvtf1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b1009eeddaf0753e114d601dcc0e2631fd2cfcad , free shipping. Big soundstage. You'll notice this more when you watch content with Dolby Atmos, at least on my phone. It's so immersive. Good and clean bass response and directional audio. Gunshots and explosions may not sound as pleasant as the Castors, but they're still okay. They're smaller as well, so comfort is great.

KZ Castor or KZ D-Fi if there's a sale

They're very popular because of their price/sound quality ratio. You'd usually have to pay 20-30usd for that quality from other brands. There's a summer Sale now on Ali. You can get the Castor or the Castor Pro or D-FI for less than 10usd each if you have enough coins

They're very popular because of their price/sound quality ratio. You'd usually have to pay 20-30usd for that quality from other brands. There's a summer Sale now on Ali. You can get the Castor or the Castor Pro or D-FI for less than 10usd each if you have enough coins

I like them for rpg games. They are decent and can make explosions go boomy. I use my tripowin vivace for comp e sports tho. Great soundstage and cheap.

I auto Eq mine to Kefine Klean silver, I enjoying it. Bass and treble is good for listening for long hour. I have Harman version.

I have Castor pro harman, and auto eq it with kefine Klean. Perfection.

My recommendations would be -Truthear zero: Red. Be carefull as the nozzles are abit large. -truthear zero: blue 2: has really small nozzles copared to the reds. Dont go with kz as they have bad qc and nost of their products break within months.

Not all but the kz castor and the castor pro my friend has both broke in a month more or less. It sounds good when it works but not otherwise

My recommendations would be -Truthear zero: Red. Be carefull as the nozzles are abit large. -truthear zero: blue 2: has really small nozzles copared to the reds. Dont go with kz as they have bad qc and nost of their products break within months.

Not all but the kz castor and the castor pro my friend has both broke in a month more or less. It sounds good when it works but not otherwise

I have only tested mine for a few hours and the bass is great, i mean the lows as whole are amazing or the best I've heard on the few iems I have, (they remind me of Sony sound) what I don't like is this particular high frequency that highlights the high hats and cymbals. Anyone else feels that way? I've been using the castor pro more often and it is softer. Tbh honest they're all pretty unused and haven't burned in properly yet. Also recently got some tips to try but haven't really swapped them around and test them all. (clarion, and sancai normal & wide)

Castor Og (talking about the bass versions tho) has more focus on mid bass punch and less on sub-bass rumble, being also a more energetic, kind of V-shaped, clean sound, but that makes the mid range sound thin and/or on the background, the Pro kinda fixes most of this adding more sub-bass rumble and reducing a bit of mid bass punch, and also reduces a bit the v-shaped sound so mid-range is not so pushed to the back, but it also increases the size of the nozzle (the part of the iem that goes into your ear canal) when the OG castor was already on ther big side of nozzles, so yeah, wound should be an overall upgrade, although not by much, but the comfort took a hit for some people.

If you want full bass punch, get the pro bass, for anything else, probably better go for the Kinera, both have a bit of a big nozzle tho.

well, should be fine, is not as impressive as the castor bass, but is decent, it is a brighter iem tho (with some extra treble Energy) so i do hope it works for you, do try to play around with the switches to see what config works better for you.

Conceptkart is shitty, I had bought KZ castor pro - Silver version and I want to exchange it for Aurora( Have the exchange policy on my product) but these mind boggling piece of shits don't even care to reply!! :(

Ha ur in luck I saw this post , 🤣 hands down the castor pro for gaming and music 🎵 I have those and use it for PUBG /valo https://preview.redd.it/042jyvdlbbhe1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a720210401d7b443f6769086cf970c9630c9c8b3

I recommend to choose on the basis of your music preference, but castor is good for bass , tangzu for vocals , https://preview.redd.it/594207ilsyre1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=45c7d8ae407cb16602086e85c31d5c6f4dd38f71

If u wait too long ull miss a great deal on conceptkart,com for a beginner i recommend kz castor ₹1330;, deal ends today #

I have both in bass versions. Original has more bass but less clarity and pro has less quantity of bass, but it's cleaner and nicer cleared highs. If you want more bass go for the original castor bass, if you want a more balanced sound with still having more than average bass get the pro bass.

I have both in bass versions. Original has more bass but less clarity and pro has less quantity of bass, but it's cleaner and nicer cleared highs. If you want more bass go for the original castor bass, if you want a more balanced sound with still having more than average bass get the pro bass.

I got 2 Castor pro harman 2 days ago. I have shp9500 headphones. The Castor Pro sounded like the shp9500. I applied the EQ I use for the shp9500 (9500 lacks bass but delivers a clean and natural sound) to the Castor Pro. I achieved almost the same sound quality with the Castor. In games, I watched a few clips where the footstep sounds I had previously recorded were barely audible. I could hear the sound directly, but I didn't test how well it was spatially accurate. If KZ has a newer and better IEM, go for it. Otherwise, get the Castor Pro and adjust the EQ settings. You can use Wavelet for Android and Equalizer APO for PC. This is my eq setting. GraphicEQ: 20 -0.2; 21 -0.2; 22 -0.2; 23 -0.2; 24 -0.2; 26 -0.2; 27 -0.2; 29 -0.2; 30 -0.2; 32 -0.2; 34 -0.2; 36 -0.2; 38 -0.2; 40 -0.2; 43 -0.2; 45 -0.2; 48 -0.2; 50 -0.2; 53 -0.2; 56 -0.2; 59 -0.2; 63 -0.2; 66 -0.2; 70 -0.5; 74 -0.9; 78 -1.3; 83 -1.7; 87 -2; 92 -2.4; 97 -2.7; 103 -3; 109 -3.3; 115 -3.6; 121 -3.8; 128 -4.2; 136 -4.5; 143 -4.8; 151 -5; 160 -5.2; 169 -5.3; 178 -5.4; 188 -5.5; 199 -5.5; 210 -5.6; 222 -5.4; 235 -5.3; 248 -5.1; 262 -4.9; 277 -4.9; 292 -4.8; 309 -4.9; 326 -4.9; 345 -5; 364 -5.1; 385 -5.2; 406 -5.3; 429 -5.4; 453 -5.5; 479 -5.7; 506 -5.8; 534 -5.9; 565 -6.1; 596 -6.2; 630 -6.4; 665 -6.7; 703 -6.9; 743 -7.1; 784 -7.4; 829 -7.7; 875 -7.9; 924 -8.1; 977 -8.3; 1032 -8.3; 1090 -8.2; 1151 -8.1; 1216 -8; 1284 -7.7; 1357 -7.6; 1433 -7.5; 1514 -7.1; 1599 -6.5; 1689 -5.9; 1784 -5; 1885 -4; 1991 -3; 2103 -2.6; 2221 -3.2; 2347 -3.4; 2479 -3.4; 2618 -3.9; 2766 -4.9; 2921 -6.1; 3086 -6.2; 3260 -5.4; 3443 -5.4; 3637 -5.9; 3842 -6.8; 4058 -8.2; 4287 -9.2; 4528 -10.5; 4783 -11.9; 5052 -11.3; 5337 -11.4; 5637 -11.8; 5955 -12.8; 6290 -13.4; 6644 -10.1; 7018 -7.5; 7414 -7.3; 7831 -8.1; 8272 -7.8; 8738 -7; 9230 -6.5; 9749 -6.2; 10298 -5.9; 10878 -5.8; 11490 -5.7; 12137 -5.7; 12821 -5.7; 13543 -5.8; 14305 -6; 15110 -6.2; 15961 -6.4; 16860 -6.7; 17809 -7.1; 18812 -7.5; 19871 -8

Castor Pro are good overall for its price point.

Owned both - wyvern I flipped asap as it was a boring listen. No regret letting it go. Castor Pro I flipped too only because I felt it wont get much listening time among my similar sets, and its large feeling fit. But it is a much more competent iem than the wyvern with tuning flexibility with its switches. I have slight regret selling it. Right now, in price range of these two, I'd recommend the hzsound white snow - best stock tuning, sq among my ultra budget collection.

It's less about being worth the upgrade if you already own one of the other sets, to me at least. I find that the question is more about just spending the little bit of extra money to begin with if it's within your budget. If it's not then an upgrade would also be out of the question either way, so that's not the focal point. As you said, the Cadenza just take EQ really well and have solid technical performance for their price, so even if you don't enjoy the tuning, they can be a really good deal. From there, newbies can easily play around with different signatures and AutoEQ other IEMs onto the Cadenza to get a fairly good impression of what they enjoy. I consider the Cadenza to be a great starter IEM for that reason and would argue that if you're looking to eventually upgrade or expand your collection, they are a top notch recommendation. Where I agree with you is that they are not ideal as a standalone one-of product. As part of an arsenal or as a first entry point they can shine but if you're only ever planning on one "do-it-all" IEM, then the 7hz Zero:2, Tangzu Wan'er and (as much as I dislike them) KZ Castor Pro are better in that regard. One last thing too, and this is a very minor criticism: Since you mentioned the Truthear Gate, which are considered very treble forward and the sharpest sounding non-KZ IEMs in their price range, I think it's a moot point to argue about the perceived sharpness of the Cadenza, especially given that a simple tip-roll can solve that issue entirely. I agree that the problem exists, I just wouldn't outright fault the Cadenza for that when other IEMs that people might be upgrading from had even sharper treble, even with better tips. Still, the default upgrade path here would go through the Truthear Zero:Red, not the Cadenza for most people and I'd levvy a lot of the same criticism against those as well (nozzle size -> stock tips, good technical performance, minor price difference to other entry level IEMs). I think it's more of an issue with ultra-budget and budget IEMs just not being all that different from one another and the most notable differences only coming once you invest more, which many people want but can't do. Then they opt to make marginal upgrades and end up disappointed at the lack of a difference. It's more of a customer behavior issue, not a product issue inherently if you ask me. Other than that, great stuff, appreciate the attention to detail.

from what i know og castor bass have higher treble than castor pro. so i guess og castor bass may harsh to some while castor pro have slightly lower the bass and reduce some of treble region

I’m not a gamer, but IEMs that I’ve seen recommended in this sub for gaming include the QKZ HBB, 7hz Zero 2, Tripowin x 0diBi: Vivace, Truthear Zero Blue, the Truthear Nova and the Simgot EM6L. I haven’t really heard the Chu 2 or the Klean recommended for gaming. I’m not a fan of the Castor, but you may consider the Castor bass over the Castor Harman. (I have the Castor Pro Bass and it sounds similar to the QKZ HBB).

The Castor Pro Bass I believe has more bass than the Chu 2, while the Castor Pro Harman has less bass. So it seems the tuning of the Chu 2 is in between the two. The Castors have tuning switches, but I’m not sure how much difference they make.

I find the Wyvern very flat in comparison to the Castor Pro. I found myself straining to hear the base and kept trying to push them deeper into my ear. I have the mic boom option and regret it. The weight of the boom is enough to cause the earpiece to constantly shift out of the desired placement in my ear. Found it annoying and nearly trashed it just cos of that. I guess a foam tip will help solve this issue. I feel like it's a quality product but I would have liked to have some ability to tweak it to my liking. As far as 'look and feel' it's probably the best looking iem right now, hard to beat in looks. Build quality is solid. The Castor Pro however also looks really good and I feel like the build slightly edges ahead of the Wyvern. I like how the connector pins on the cables have a protective housing whereas the Wyvern cables have the pins fully exposed. In terms of sound quality it's clearly superior in terms of staging and provides a richer, fuller experience. This combined with the ability to tweak the eq to a degree make it my choice between the two. The Wyvern is treble biased to the point that some of my favourite songs i listened to were nearly unrecognizable or sounded altered. Both are great products with a premium feel but the Castor Pro feels like they've put lots of time and consideration into producing a quality product that also comes in at a great price point. I must say that I was really dissapointed by the performance of the Wyvern but what it has done is give me a new appreciation of the Castor Pro.

I just bought the castor pro, and man the experience was great. The only downside is It feels heavy to wear, Compare to my Kz zsn and QKZ ak6 max the castor pro is way heavier even if you combine the weights of the two, so my ear canals are hurting and I can't wear them for longer period of time, I don't know much about IEMS and if my problem can be resolved by changing eartips but the only reason I bought the castor pro is the bass

Both have the same dual drivers (as I’ve read) but the Pro version moves their positions inside the shell. Apparently this also adds to the better sound of the Pro, regardless of the tuning, the drivers arraignment makes the sound waves “better”. Is that true? Idk but it sounds plausible. As far as the actual tuning, to me, the Pro is better but it isn’t some might and day difference. Both original and pro versions are really good for their price and sound profile. Either one is a good choice for bassheads. If you have the choice the Pro version is the one to get. If you can only get the original version you’re not missing out on much and would be quite satisfied with the original version.

Based on ONLY what you(OP) said about your usage, between those 2 IEMs the Castor Harmon is the better option. The 4 switches on the Castors control “Bass/Bass/Mids/Treble”. By default they are all in the Off position. Turning on both Bass switches will give you a nice and easily noticeable increase in bass response. The EDC Pro is an amazing sounding IEMs for how cheap it is, but that’s the thing, it is cheap. The materials used for the EDC Pro are of the lowest quality. This may not matter to you but just doing a simple side by side comparison of the Castors to the EDC Pro, Castors have a far better build quality. I would seriously look into getting the Saga bass version. Even the Saga Balanced version sounds “better” than the Castor Harmon versions and the Saga Bass has a noticeable boost in the low end over the saga balanced while still retaining its clarity.

I had that same problem with the Castor’s falling out. Memory foam tips worked better for me.

Today Waner 2 arrived just to realize kz Castor pro are better .

I bought the silver KZ Castor Pro last week for gaming and I love them

I completely agree. Had the original Castors (bass improved supposedly) and they ended up collecting dust. Worst sounding IEM in my collection. Then I got the new Pro and WOW!! Can't get enough of it. Great sub bass, great bass, decent mids and highs. For an IEM at this price, the sound stage is also very decent.

I actually bought the silver version without realizing that the color made a difference. I love bass, however because I’m going to be recording vocals and gaming, I think I actually made a pleasant mistake. A more balanced eq is likely better than a bass enhanced version. I’ll keep you guys updated

¡Hola, hermano! Acabo de adquirir también los bajos Castor Pro. Después de usar ambos, si quieres grabar voces, te recomiendo los plateados, ya que tienen más detalle y un sonido más plano. Si quieres un uso más general, ¡elige los negros! ¡Espero que te sirva!

Wan‘er best tuning. Or castor pro , i dont know why someone is suggesting you the the gate , they are cheap constructed the castor are much sturdier and the gate dont impress at all as sound

I just got an iem kz castor pro..they sound excellent but u can't use them for long hours..i tried apple wired too but they don't cut the outside noise..the best earphones for you will be samsung akg it costs 1700 approx and it's better than the apple wired earphones.for best music experience pair them with apple music and select the audio quality as lossless.

The only KZ worth buying is EDC Pro or Castor Pro, unless you know how to mod and experiment with IEMs. Even then, sets like QKZ X HBB and Blon BL03 II exist for $30. Spend a bit more than bottom dollar to get value.

I am only using the KZ Castor Pro set for home practice right now, but they are very good. I bought mine on AliExpress for $13 shipped free. The ZS10 is around $23.

I'm going to get the castor pro after sending back my waner sg studio. I really like the kz edc pro for the 5 I paid.

KZ hasn't really fallen and instead it's probably the opposite. They have improved their tuning and frequently get recommended in the sub $100 iem realm. Vader, Vader Pro, Castor Pro, Zenith, AM16 etc are all very good IEMs for their price.

So.the total cost will be 3k + ,also how the bass edition is good? The whole sound will feel kinda boomy because of that extra bass I tried that in fps shooter but the granade and firing sound is masking the footsteps I find that the castor pro silver is more accurate but the only issue is the weight

I tried the kz Castor pro silver it was really amazing when I played apex , I can hear everything with the distance I can hear fights going on over the mountain enemies exact distances , i didn't paired with any dac But Lil bit confusing while playing games like Marvel rivals and small map games but we can easily tune it The only problem I felt is the weight the weight was horrible it starts paining after 1 hr so keep that in mind

So far im still on my first iems (castor pros) so im jot sure where they deepness wise compared to others but i can see the want for that deep of a fit

Just got the castor pros this morning, and goddamn are they incredible. The last pair I used was the moon drop chu II. And they are miles ahead.

I've got a couple pairs of KZ Castor Pros and that's all I need. Better than the cheap stuff I'd otherwise buy from Walmart.

I recently bought a KZ Castor Pro (improved bass) as a secondary set for gaming and some movies/tv/youtube. To my ears, out of the box they sound great, and is even better after turning on some of the tuning switches (i have 1 and 2 on). It was meant to be a “secondary” set but ended up being my daily driver currently. Never really did a deep dive as to why people avoid it but I’ve read some comments about their QC issues on youtube.

Yes, I have looked over the Castor Pro Bass for quite a while now and I'm completely fine with the pricing, I might just get two instead of one since I simply cannot decide which one to get lol The ZVX PRO seems nice due to it's price to performance single DD and I've heard a lot of good things about the Castor Pro Bass Both are the same price which is why I'm thinking of getting both at this point. I'm fine with EQing stuff either way so the easier they can handle it the better, driving them is also not an issue since I'm using an LG V20.

Small list of the ones I recommend for beginners with budget 1. Moondrop chu ii 2. Kz castor (original or pro) if you like bass, pick the black one 3. 7hz Zero Red 4.sgor adonis

You can also get KZ Castor Harman Target edition, I use the same with my Boss Katana 50 and they have been great since the past year

Well I only have them Simgot supermix 4… and I’m such a sucker for the harman target so I luv them, the treble is soooo smooth, the fit, the looks I love then. I’m considering a new cable tho.

Smart move — the Cadenza is a great baseline for a relaxed-but-clear sound, but if you want to explore different tunings before investing more, here are 3 budget IEMs that each take you in a *distinct* direction: **1. 7Hz Zero 2** – Neutral-bright and analytical. Much flatter in the bass than the Cadenza, with crisp upper mids and clarity-forward tuning. Great for vocals and detail, less warmth. **2. KZ Castor (Bass side)** – V-shaped and bassy. This gives you that fun, punchy low end with some extra energy up top too. Totally different presentation from the Cadenza — more contrast, more spice. **3. Tangzu Wan’er SG** – Mid-centric and warm. Smoother treble, fuller mids, and soft bass. Not as technically sharp as Zero 2, but excellent for chill listening and vocals. Each of these emphasizes a different part of the spectrum, so trying all three gives you a decent “flavor map” to figure out what you want more (or less) of in a future upgrade. Also, if you're interested in a more strategic deep-dive on how to actually *learn* what you like and avoid wasting money as you climb, I wrote this breakdown you might find helpful: [How to Actually Learn What You Like in IEMs (and Stop Wasting Money)](https://www.reddit.com/r/iems/comments/1kd6j1t/how_to_actually_learn_what_you_like_in_i)

Bass isn't that good for games like Val, I'd go with the harman and see how I like it from there. The IEMs aren't crazy expensive. Also, the USB C dac should work on pc without problems

Hello. I am no means an audiophile and do not have a lot of IEMS tested. Currently owning only KZ castor Harman (Silver) And the improved bass (Black color). If in case i make any mistakes other could correct me. And im only sharing personal experience as a nooby and personal opinion. So since i have switched to the IEMS going to be honest in my personal experience i personally prefer using the IEMS over the gaming headsets. (Only experience before iems was gaming headsets like Corsair virtuoso se, Razer kraken v2, Hyperx cloud 2, and Sony headphones like Sony wh-1000xm3, Sony linkbuds s, Sony wh h910n aka h.earon and some other Sony XB headphones) Reason i wanted to switch to the IEMS was i needed a descent headphones/iems to use with my PC since because of the over ear headphones i had migraines and a lot of of them i had. To the point that i could not play games or even watch the contact im consuming for more then 30 min a day. After switching to IEMS i noticed the sound stage felt a little bigger then the Corsairs i still have and sounded much better with out even using any EQ app on my pc. If being honest i personally doubt that IEMS are leagues a head against higher end Headphones that considered good in audiophile community. Since the IEMS are small there will be limitations. I would even say it would be compering Desktop pc spec against laptop. Similar but not quite. And from what i have read in this group my personal opinion is that the IEMS over 100 maybe even over then 150 have the diminishing returns. If i look at them as a regular consumer then 80% of people might not even feel a big of a difference between iems that cost 150 euros/dollars against any other wireless headphones that consumers buy. But this is only my opinion. So personally since im on a budget i do not see a point buying iems that more then 70 euros (Since im from EU) Becasue a lot of them are definably providing me all i need for musing and playing video games. (Only now considering buying some other options to get a little bit better experience then my KZ castor Harman tuning version) Apologies if i wrote in a mishmash tried to share some experience from a nooby side. And apologies if i have offended anyone.

It really depends on what kind of sound profile you are looking for. Castor is a more capable iem in my opinion. You should check out frequency response graphs of the iems. It may give you an idea of how they sound. It's explained on the headphonezone website. There are two versions of the Castor, bass (black) and harman (silver). If you want to experience a bass head tuning this can do it well. The bass version is a fun set, not particularly correct sounding. The harman might do a better job of that ( I haven't tried the harman). The stock tips on castors are just okay. I highly recommend latex liquid silicone tips from conceptkart. Polaris is a balanced sound, still a v shaped tuning but not as pronounced as the others. It is easy to listen to but in the end is not as resolving as the castor bass. It can bring out some details but there are better iems that do it well. It is still a great beginner set if you are tight on budget. It has decent levels of bass and fairly smooth treble presentation. Widebore tips are recommended with Polaris. I have not tried the zex, partly because of some reviews mentioning harsh treble. I am a bit sensitive to treble, but overall it should give you an energetic sound. With good amounts of bass and treble. The driver combinations and features are different for these iems.

KZ Castor. No bass, shouty, just hurting my hearing

Yes, I meant the Harman version. Their bass is very very lean. The switch adds bass, but it's sound doesn't fit the rest of the tuning. The Castor Bass is much much better.

My personal journey to find the perfect audio setup that works for me was long and expensive. Put simply, I tried a ton of the gamer-focused headsets first. Went through a lot, and some of them were actually decent, but in the end, I realized the truth: gamer headphones are not a good value. They put more resources into the branding and aesthetics than they do for actual audio quality. The one exception to this was the Sennheiser/Drop PC38x. These are wired open back headphones with a built-in mic. For me, these were far and away the best sounding "gamer" headphones I ever tried, and it wasn't even close. The open back really opens up the soundstage, which, at least for me, really helped with directional audio. The convenience of the built-in mic was definitely a bonus too. Sadly, it looks like they are no longer making these... maybe Drop or Sennheiser still makes something similar but I haven't looked. I ran the Astro a40's for a long time too. These also have an open back design, but I always found them to be a bit too harsh, and I spent WAY too much time trying to tweak the EQ to get them to sound good. The terrible software didn't help matters either. IEM's are all the rage now. I was skeptical at first, but have found this to be the best way to go. IEM's were always kind of a niche item that was historically expensive for a decent set, but over the last few years, a TON of really good IEM's have hit the market for super cheap. My current favorite set are the Truthear Crinacle Zero Reds. You can find them on sale pretty often for around $50. If that's too much, there are a lot of great options in the $15 - $50 range too. The KZ Castors come to mind: I think I got mine for like $25 and I like these almost as much as the Zero Reds. The Audiovance Vibes 202's are good as well and can be had for around $30. I like them because they sound really great, and I like the cables they come with. And of course, everyone loves the Moondrop Chu II. I have those as well and they are indeed quite good, especially for the price (around $20). The amazing thing is that all of the IEM's I mentioned above sound way better than the in ear monitors I used to use back in my days of playing live music... and they literally cost hundreds of dollars less. It blows my mind. The one downside to IEM's is the lack of a built-in mic. This is easy to get around if you are playing on PC, but a little less convenient if you play on console. I have a dedicated mic for my setup since I do a lot of music recording so it isn't a problem, but if you need a built-in mic, there are cables for IEM's that you can buy that have a little mic built in. I can't really speak to how good they are, but I would think that would work ok plugged directly into your Xbox or PS controller. Anyway, I didn't set out to write a book here when I started this post, but there it is... TLDR; iems are the way to go. Even the Moondrop Chu II's sound significantly better than even the most expensive gamer-focused headsets. And that's before you even consider cost. If you are like me, and your earholes don't generally like earbuds, you may need to experiment with different tips to find something that is comfortable enough to wear for long periods, but once you do it is awesome, and definitely worth the trouble.

IEMs is the way. Just get KZ castor with a nice audiocular dac

I love my KZ Castors definitely recommend.

IMHO castor > wan'er 2 if you compare just the IEMs, without the accessories.

First of all: I am not an expert in hi-fi. I'm just a simple man who was looking for good IEMs, and this is only my subjective opinion. The IEMs I was looking for should cost between $50 and $150 and should have balanced, lively bass with pleasant treble that does not tire the ears. So far, I have tried many IEMs and tested them on my PC and smartphone without any additional devices. No DAC, no amp. It was important to me that they were ready to use right out of the box. For me, good sound is when it is carried by lively bass and deep frequencies that guide you through the music, especially for drum and bass and metal. Low frequencies, and especially bass, form the basis of a good listening experience; that's the primary purpose of why I prefer hi-fi headphones, to get into it. My rotation: **≈ 50$ IEMs which I tested:** LINSOUL TANGZU Wan'er LINSOUL SIMGOT EW200 MOONDROP CHU II LINSOUL 7Hz x Crinacle Zero:2 KZ Castor LINSOUL KZ ZS10 PRO 2 LINSOUL KZ ZS10 PRO X **≈ 100$ IEMs which I tested:** LINSOUL SIMGOT EW300 ARTTI T10 Pro TRUTHEAR Hexa Surprisingly, only two of the IEMs I tested impressed me with their overall bass reproduction. I couldn't decide between the KZ PRO 2 and the ZERO BLUE 2, but in the end I chose the BLUE 2 because it offers the best overall package. For me, the ZERO BLUE 2 is simply badass right out of the box. These were the only IMEs that had this deep sounding I was looking for. https://preview.redd.it/fm66t5fl5uef1.jpg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=87099e1c617e96b62bb51f28fe01520ebe96a0c6 https://preview.redd.it/pyn3x43m5uef1.jpg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=721c67332e8f8dd3db7ed8ac6e948c098e174871

I should have bought kefine klean instead of the kz castor.

Good point. Thats why i did tons of research after buying my first iem and dap which are kz castor and sony a35. Was overwhelmed with the vast number of iems and daps. Wanted to try it all in every price point but later decided it was not worth spending so much money so bought what i think is the best for me which was the wm1a and tea pros combo and sold my kz castor but kept my a35 as a backup. Now i can say i reached my endgame and no longer need to buy another device except when my current one breaks.

oh that's worrying as I use KZ castors for my daily use like office calls, fps games, music but the volume is always around 50-70%, I hope you recover from the damage take care

Kz casters cause I’m cheap, but they are better sounding than all the other headphones in my house and according to my mum sound and feel better built than AirPods

My 2nd IEM(After Kz Castor) and my favourite one among the 2❤️

Yes, to my taste Zero 2s are better than Kz Castor. Good layered seperated music experience, good balanced bass, not too overpowering or fatiguing the ears, good vocals.

Agree. Zs10 pro 2 ( uppose to be upgrade ) are crap.Too bright and harsh heights. Vocals sound weird to me. Also overhiped to me are Castor Bass,HBB ''gaming'' collab. I have KZ Castor,QKZ x HBB ( these 2 are the crappiest ) Vader,Zs10 pro,PRX,and CCA Rhapsody. Rhapsody are the only ones that are good for me as a bass head.NIce sub bass rumble,punchy mid bass,present vocals,no harsh or piercing heights ( like zs10 pro 2),Decent wide soundstage.THey just sound good. Took me a while to make them comfortable,was about to give up on them. Definitely i recomend them for a basshead They need short steam eartips ( i shorten the stock ones ) to make them usable for 6,7-10 hours.Otherwise they push too much in your ear canal and cause pain due big nozzle. I ordered some eartips that suppose to work with them ( **Zhulinniao Zhu Rythme** ) but they are in transit and i didn't try them yet. I'd give them a try if u are a basshead.THey are good.

[Kz castor](https://s.shopee.ph/2B1Rl1Sztn) if looking for something affordable. [Pr2](https://s.shopee.ph/5puk88IXCi) naman if maluwag budget for the IEM.

i also want to buy that .. I've done some research with the help of some AI and seen some yt videos and read some posts and threads in reddit... I used kz castor last year and kz zs10 pro x around 3 years back but honestly didn't like it overall.... now will you plz share ur views or experience about ew300 thanks in advance

im selling 3k$ worth of amps, dacs, headphones, iems just because I accidentaly heard Kz castor (harman, white, UP UP DOWN DOWN).. no joke

way way way... im selling 3k$ worth of amps, dacs, headphones, iems just because I accidentaly heard Kz castor (harman, white)... 

Hi! You commented on my post and I thought I’d come by to give some advice! I would typically recommend the wan’er 2 as a first pair of iem’s but considering their large shell size they might not be for you. The Chu 2 are a great set absolutely and can be upgraded directly to the LAN 2 ref also from Moondrop. I wouldn’t recommend going for the ie200 because they cost a good amount of money but they take on a neutral tone which might be to your preference, I personally prefer a “fun” sound and therefore don’t use them often. Also consider tip sizes. If you find your canal is too small, most iem’s offer small tip sizes and you can find even smaller aftermarket, in which case I recommend the wan’er 2 as they have my favourite ever tips in the stock box that I use for all my iem’s. Don’t spend more than needed, I would recommend the KZ castors, Cadenza, Wan’er 1 or 2, Chu 2, or, if it’s in your budget, the LAN

I would say iems but depends upon one's use case. I am using OnePlus buds and kz castors. I like castors more for gaming and media consumption on pc but I use buds in the gym and in public places.

If you are a bass guy, KZ castor, if you want not only the bass but every other thing, tangzu wan'er, Do not buy from Amazon/Flipkart those are a rip off. I had a pretty bad experience with conceptkart, so I would recommend The headphone zone but the choice is yours to make.

Bruv you don't need a specific style of earphones to hear footsteps in bgmi. Anything that gives stereo audio is all that you need. For music? Hell Yea, the castors sound amazimg

The Zenith is the best one by a large margin for me, the Gale would be my second choice (EDX Pro 2 has the same tuning and about 2-3dB more bass, I prefer the balance of the Gale though, both are an incredible value for the price (+/-$8-9)). I have or had at some point the Hydro, PRX, Saga (both), Castor (both), Libra (hi-res and balanced), ZVX, ZVX Pro, Vader Balanced/Trio, ZS12 Pro X, EDC Pro, D-Fi and Polaris, of this sets I like the Saga Balanced the most.

kz castor (better bass response)

After some research and a being bit tired of using wired headphones,I decided to buy my first pair of iems (Sennheiser ie200), and found them to be a significant improvement in sound quality of both airpods pro (2nd gen) and Sony WF1000xm4 (though I think the latter is still pretty good). Out of curiosity, I also purchased a pair of KZ Castors, just to see the difference between a pair of 100$s and a pair of 10$s. While I wouldn’t exactly call it ‘night and day’, the difference is still fairly obvious, even for a complete layman. The ie200s sound quite a bit richer, fuller, and, well, ‘closer’(sorry again for the lay description, haha). The comfort of the ie200 is really outstanding, as they are positively tiny and fit snugly in my ears. The sound quality is excellent, too, at least to me. Quite well balanced, good bass, clear trebles, and just overall very ‘smooth’ and enjoyable to listen to. I find myself pulling them out, ignoring the inconvenience of chords, just to listen to my favourite songs with them, whereas with the bluetooth buds I only want to wear them when I’m commuting or working out. That said, I think the KZs are also quite good indeed, both in terms of sound and build quality(the metal part on the Castors actually feel a bit premium), especially when you consider the price, and I would have no problem recommending them to anyone who doesn’t want to spend more than 20 bucks on earphones. (At least until they break or stop working, as I heard can be a problem for inexpensive chi-fi iems. But yeah, still good value.)

In your list, I vote for the Wan'er S.G. To me it's the most balanced and sounds the best. The Castor is definitely more bassy, and the Zero is pretty similar to the SG. If you can wait, I'd hold out for the Wan'er 2 and it's reviews.

MORMOQUE EP-06 Metallic Wired... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C9TSWJ4P?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share These for unintrusiveness. KZ Castor when I want better quality. Or over the head senheizer

Enjoy your iem! You can set the 1 and 3 switch to up so that the bass improved.I have one of these and really love it.

Try iems. I use kz castor

Kz castor if you want bass na may highs pa dn

Average skullcandy crusher/kz castor enjoyer

Get a KZ Castor bass and glue the front vent. You'll have bass for days, more than you bargained for.

Im a casual gamer on PC, mostly I play FPS game like PUBG, CS2, Squad and Battlefield. I mostly use KZ Castor and KZ PR3, I have CCA CRA, Salnotes Zero, JBL Quantum, Razer Hammerhead v2, Razer Hammerhead duo and couple of other budget iem. KZ castor has more boomy bass, so its great if u need more immersive sound with a lot of explosion and gunshot like Battlefield and Squad. But you can still tell what happen, where and how far.. But, when I need direction and detail like footsteps sound and gunshot direction I use KZ PR3.

>While it is still a cheap IEM it still gives a massive difference compared to cheapy pay at my local market. Without a doubt. KZ Castors have a smoother frequency response and are a better match to Harmon Target than many of the more expensive, popular full sized studio headphones https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?attachments/kz-castor-tuning-adjustable-dynamic-dual-driver-earphone-iem-harman-target-2-frequency-respons-png.368042/ For example, now look at the Sony MDR 7506 https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?attachments/sony-mdr-7506-frequency-response-measurements-png.103799/ Or the Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pro https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?attachments/beyerdynamic-dt-990-pro-measurement-250-ohm-headphone-frequency-response-png.109720/ The Castors are objectively better for mixing. So it's no longer true that you can't get good IEMs for under $50 that are good for mixing. You just have to know which ones to buy, just like for more expensive headphones Here's another good cheap pair https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/truthear-gate-17-iem-review.61784/

Kz Castor is technically superior to Gate , but has a bad tuning...If you know how to EQ , Castor's output becomes much better than the Gate....But Gate is more Comfortable than Castor for wearing.

KZ Castor, Moondrop Chu II, Tangzu Wan’Er SG II are all great and less than $40

1. I would say the Castor. The gale is good too and one bonus is that it comes with a DAC in the cable. But if you can get the castor with a cheap dac I think that would be the better pick. 2. The Bass version puts more emphasis on the lower frequencies and the H target is a more "appealing" tuning, It's a sound that must people would probably like. 3. Are you talking about the Castor and Castor Pro? The regular Castor has 2 DDs in a 10mm + 8mm setup and the Pro has a 2 dd setup with 10mm + 10mm. It's basically the same but like every so slightly better. Just for for the cheaper one.

I don't recommend getting any IEM bub 10 USD. Save up 6 more usd and get the KZ Castor.

I would say so

It gets good starting from 1000 and upwards. I'm currently using the Kz Castor (1200Rs i think) and it's already very good.

I use the chu 2 and they are great, my fav out of the 3 pairs of KZ ones and another one I can't remember.. Second would be the KZ harman. Both are around the $30-50 mark on Amazon. Chu 2 is definitely more comfortable, especially paired with the Comply T500 memory foam eartips.

I got Moondrop Chu 2 DSP last month for 2300. Before that I had KZ Castor working perfectly fine but had to change as my new phone only has Type C . The iems smaller so it doesn't hurt the ear much. And the sound is no doubt the best one in this budget. The treble to me seems a bit spicy and that's the only con for me till now. Will update if i find any other issues.

Got mine for 4$ on aliexpress

KZ Castor/Krila, Tangzu Wan er, 7hz Zero 2. No EQ needed (for me at least) or if you want EQ, search AutoEQ for available setting and tweak it to your own liking. Great audio doesn't require money these days (in IEM space at least)

I currently use kZ castor IEMs and I've found them to be decent. Not too fatiguing and you don't need them loud.

Ooo DA, clar, 7Hz Zero 2 le bate grav, până și KZ Castor sună mai bine

I like my Castors better than my Castor Pros. No bass whatsoever.

The ZS10 Pro 2 are one of my favorites, both in design and sound ✌🏾 https://preview.redd.it/b9kr63sespyf1.jpeg?width=6944&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b2a129590e21732700427c025ef7a9330ff8301a

Thanks bro, I bought to try and sell 😁 only then have I had the opportunity to go little by little looking for one or some that I like So far my favorites are the Castor Harman, Vader HR and the ZS10 Pro 2. And which ones are your favorites or which ones have you been using? ✌🏾 https://preview.redd.it/miwmgezoxpyf1.jpeg?width=9248&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4a416eccdeadf077e90c1e5d95b08d54ca1d2bdd

Ive been rotating between the kz castor, tripowin viviace, and truthear zero. Castor for bass and vivace and red just based on what im feeling. But I do feel like the vivoace is a little bit better

KZ Castor is probably the cheapest bass iem you can get thats still insane quality.

I have the KZ Castor for like two weeks and they're awesome!

i think KZ castor is pretty good.

OG castor Harman? 🤔🧐 I'm tryna break it's tuning by heavily EQ'ing it. But unfortunately it responds well to wired EQ presets.

On the ultra budget I would say KZ Castor/EDC Pro, then Crincale Red of you want more bass around 50$ and around $100 if you like a nice V shape signature the Juzear defiant or Truth ear pure if you want neutral+bass boost around $90.

Yeah isolation is a tough one. I’ve had the KZ Pros and think they are garbage on all aspects from the fit, to sound isolation, to the sound reproduction. Probably my most hated IEMs that I’ve tried