KZ - x HBB

Your Sony were 10Ohm, Zeros are 16Ohm so there should be a difference with a same source. Zeros are known to be uncomfortable based on your ear canals size. Don't hesitate to return them. For the price get a cheap dac (like 8 dollars) from AliExpress and get iems with standard bore size. There are good entry-level bass oriented iems like the Qkz x HBB Hades or 7Hz Legato. or even KZ castor bass pro

EQed QKZ x HBB. I should have written in the first post that I use EQ, sorry I forgot about this important detail. As for the EQ I use *Hot Monster Output* in MSEB settings in Hiby R4 player.

Link to what? IEM: [https://www.linsoul.com/products/qkz-x-hbb?srsltid=AfmBOorHXr5-Ccfk2JbPPUJtrXPyBWcjeDP1KSGggRv49aiG9M5CgSQi](https://www.linsoul.com/products/qkz-x-hbb?srsltid=AfmBOorHXr5-Ccfk2JbPPUJtrXPyBWcjeDP1KSGggRv49aiG9M5CgSQi) [https://qkzheadphone.com/product/qkz-hbb-3-5mm-in-ear-sports-earphones-for-mobile-gaming/](https://qkzheadphone.com/product/qkz-hbb-3-5mm-in-ear-sports-earphones-for-mobile-gaming/) [https://www.amazon.com/Linsoul-QKZ-HBB-Titanium-Coated-Silver-Plated/dp/B0BDDZVV1F](https://www.amazon.com/Linsoul-QKZ-HBB-Titanium-Coated-Silver-Plated/dp/B0BDDZVV1F) \+ aliexpress My small post about these IEMs: [link](https://www.reddit.com/r/iems/comments/1j8ofyu/i_like_the_qkz_x_hbb_am_i_a_pleb/)

Cheap ones: Kbear Rosefinch, Whizzer/Opera Factory OS1 Pro, CCA CRA, More pricey ones: 7Hz Legato, QKZ x HBB Hades, Campfire Audio Honeydew. In case you are looking for a cheap one I would go for the Rosefinch. If you have more money to burn, probably the Honeydew would suffice. :) I only have the Castor Bass and I also had the QKZ x HBB Khan (not the standard QKZ x HBB), but for me the Castor was way better.

Qkz x hbb has way more rumble than castor bass (not pro). I don't think that pro really improves on that aspect. But you need to find the right tips for your ears. Stock qkz hbb tips kinda trash like on most budget iems. Qkz x hbb hades has even more bass, sub bass a little worse than qkz x hbb, but they're more comfortable at higher volume, but it's not for everyone and not for every type of music and it's harder to drive, but i really love them, they're my favorite with qkz x hbb atm. Castor and castor pro are also a little harder to drive. You won't find better bass quality with good quantity at this price than qkz x hbb. Kbear Rosefinch has more quantity but it lacks any rumble and punch for me. Kz saga bass could be a good competitor to qkz x hbb from what I've heard. Also there is new 7hz elua, wich is hbb colab, also could be something interesting, but a little bit more expensive. I'm waiting for both of those and more pairs to hear them, since i can't really find anything to replace qkz x hbb. I'd say go with qkz x hbb. They're absolute beasts for hip hop and any other genre really, if you're into dark sound signature which helps bass. Qkz x hbb hades are absolutely fucking insane for hip hop, but could be lacking in other genres, but i like them for most other music too. But for movies i always use qkz x hbb.

Here are some recommendations under $50 or can be found most of the time under $50. KBear Rosefinch 7hz Elua (not ultra version) QKZ HBB Hades (you say you don't care about details, stage etc but you may regret your words after hearing this.) 7hz Legato (if you can stretch like $10, this one has the most dynamic and engaging bass among my recs.)

Hades makes every other cheap basshead set feel like God's grace. Take any other basshead set and do you think it's muddy, bad vocals, has no mid, treble, stage, resolution etc? Hades will make you eat your words. It has extremely stupid amount of bass with no texture, it's dark, overly muddy, boomy, congested. Legato bass has texture, hits very hard and pleasant. Other frequencies are very acceptable for the final purpose. I have seen reputable reviewers criticizing Legato with vocals etc but personally I find those takes immature and ignorant of its purpose. It wasn't tuned as a pure basshead set only but trying to give the feeling of old, classic subwoofer sets. And it succeeds very much if you ever have been familiar with that sound. (that might give ideas about your age also.)

I didn't like the Hades personally, but its an ok IEM though. there's only 3 versions of them, the original, the hades, and khan the original is my favorite on all 3, being its so close to my QKZ AK6 Pro while still having enough clarity and sparkle.

Bassy IEMs: Under $5 * QKZ AK6 Pro $25 and lower (bass-focused) * KBEar Rosefinch \* * QKZ x HBB (OG version) \* * BLON BL-01 * KZ Castor Bass \* $25 and lower (neutral warm) * Tangzu Wan'er SG/Wan'er 2 \* * 7Hz x Crinacle Salnotes Zero 2 \* * Moondrop Chu 2 * KZ Castor Silver (UUDD switches) $25-60 (bass-focused) * BLON BL-03/BL-03 II \* * BLON x HBB Z300 * TinHiFi C3 Mk2 \* * 7Hz x HBB Elua * Kinera Celest Gumiho * KZ Castor Pro Bass \* * CCA Rhapsody \* * CCA Trio \* $25-60 (neutral warm) * Kefine Klean \* * Inawaken Dawn Ms \* * Kiwi Ears Cadenza \* * Tripowin x 0DiBi Vivace \* * Kinera Celest Wyvern Abyss \* * Tangzu YuXuanJi * KBear KB02 * KZ Zenith (UUDD switches) \* * KZ Castor Pro Silver (UUDD switches) Special mentioned * Truthear x Crinacle Zero Blue 2 \* * QKZ x HBB Khan (\* recommend)

Funny you should say that, because I’ve found them to be the most tip sensitive IEMs I’ve had. With the stock tips there was NO bass and the rest of the range sounded harsh and shrieky. With the next set of tips (Tri Clarion, I think? I can’t remember now) I could hear the bass but it just sounded so soft and poofy, like cotton balls being thrown at my ears. Finally, with the 3rd and 4th set of tips I’ve tried there was quite a turnaround and I’m seeing why people like these. I’m really enjoying them now. With all my other IEMs, tips have just made tiny differences in the sound and I’ve changed them around more to find the best comfort than anything else. But these - oh, man, was there a difference!

The graph seems similar to qkz hbb and i find the qkz to be very dark and muffled. Is the edx pro 2 similar? 

Thank you very much man, thats what i wanted to know. Pro 2 ordered.  Hate the qkz aswell. Felt clostropobhic. The treble was extremely rolled off for me. Hoping the edx pro 2 has bigger stage. 

Is this an upgrade from qkz hbb. The hbb to me sounds dark muffled with treble roll off and with a bloated slow bass. The bass shelf in the graph seems similar. Are they similar sounding? 

It really depends on each people ears and taste in music. Basshead or normal people usually like v shaped iem, even if it's cheap one like qkz hbb they gonna pick it over 64audio u12t for example

**QKZ HBB:** Has more bass compared to Castor Pro, but comes with slight compromises in Mids and Treble. In certain songs the bass tends to mask the vocals. The Treble is smooth for some, but it is on the darker side. **Castor Pro:** Has Bass and good sub bass rumble and it is one of the sets that maintains a balance in everything. It has Sub bass, mid bass, decent Mids and resolving Treble. For me, this is the jack of all trades set under 20 dollars. Most bassy iems tend to sacrifice on mid bass punch to maintain the Mids. This does provide that mid bass punch but at a cost of harman-ish Mids.