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S12 2024 if its available, unless you like the spicy treble and punchy mids of the s12 pro.
The S12 Ultra has recessed vocals. I wouldn’t. Buy the S12 Pro or S12 2024 instead. The supermix 4 is harman. It makes thing sound thin for me but you’ll like it if you like harman. I just picked up the orchestra lite myself
From a business standpoint of view, Letshuoer is pandering to the larger market. The original S12 was a unique release that pleased many trebleheads. But knowing that the market is filled with bass-heavy sets (as demanded by the market), Letshuoer must stay competitive by releasing their own sets to compete with the bass-hungry options, or die out. Which each iteration of the S12, the treble that made the S12 famous is continuously scaled back, with it's bass cranked up. I personally own the S12 Pro. At the time, I demo'd the S12 OG and 2024 edition. OG was too shrilling for my liking, and the 2024 edition was too expensive for a slightly warmer version of the S12 Pro. It seems that the Ultra is an even warmer version of the 2024. Will Letshuoer release a S12 Max next year that are planar bass cannons? I agree with u/The_Only_Egg, Letshuoer has definitely milked the shit out of the S12. I doubt the S12 Ultra will be able to relive the (short-lived) glory days of the S12 OG and S12 Pro. 2024 and Ultra are such far deviations of the S12 OG and Pro that Letshuoer should just come up with a completely different SKU for the Ultra.
Wonder bow this will compare to my s12 2024. The vocal details beats the Performer 5+2 and a general all round iem once I tipped rolled
The letshuoer s12 2024 is one of my favourite iems and the planar doesn't sound fake to me. The Aful Performer 5+2 is my current end game and the sound for me is pretty much there, that for me there is no need to spend any more because of diminishing returns. As always it's personal preference but it's not indicative of planar and hybrid technology for alot of people.
For a warm IEM with good bass, the S08 is pretty unique. I can’t think of other planars tuned like that, and also doesn’t have that planar “veil”, or metallic sound some folks don’t mike in planars. I think the limited edition S12 2024 was tuned a little closer to the S08 by Letshuoer when that came out, but at over double the price. I can vouch for the S08, and as a treble sensitive person, can use it for hours. There’s enough upper mid to treble extension that female vocals and whatnot sound fine, just without the piercing highs or sibilance that can occur with brighter planars.
s12 pro is not good for gaming, s12 2024 was great better than any of these but that's discontinued and it was more money, new s12 ultra might be but that's $170 haven't tried it yet it's rly new
It's not commanding per se, it's more small leap in price especially above $100+ tend to result in a not too drastic improvement i.e a sidegrade rather than upgrade. I jumped from my S12 2024 to Bravery Wae which is a 100$ difference and while the S12 can match and even beat the AE in a lot of aspect, if I don't focus on trying to find differences theyre so-so in differences. It's when I jumped to 3x the price of the S12 where I don't even have to focus to notice the differences, it was outclassed completely. That said there are good offering at 300$ like BGVP DMA if you like details and want to jump into an IEM with Bone Conduction Drivers, but whether it will be major or minor improvements I wouldnt know. You'll soon realize diminishing return hits hard at these ranges.
From the sound of it looks like you prefer Planar and BA bass? I'd look into all BA IEM if I were you. Or maybe that new Kiwi Ears Aether. I love my Butastur bass but that's in the 600$ range. And my S12 2024 has really good bass too.
I separate them into sound signatures and how competent they are in Techs. From there its...up to mood. If im feeling for something fun I'd pick the S12 2024 or the NFAcous NA20 IF I wanted to listen closely to the music and pick up every nuanced details i'd grab the Night Oblivion Butastur Then theres the "Commute/Travelling" set because the shell are so lightweight and fits like a missing puzzle piece. Specifically the SeeAudio Bravery AE, which used to be in the Butastur slot since they share a similar sound signature.
I dont have specific set for specific genres. Me personally it depends on the Mood really. When im in the mood for Critical Listening or in other words just focusing on Music and not like music while working and etc, then i'd pull out my Night Oblivion Butastur as it has the best technicalities out of all my IEMs. If I want a good Musical time or music while working then I have the Letshuoer S12 2024 for that. That said the S12 2024 shares this spot with my headphone Fiio FT1, so again depends whether im in the mood for IEM or cans. For commuting/traveling and just relaxed listening the SeeAudio Bravery AE, I never leave without it. As its very light and doesnt stand out as much as the bling-bling S12 2024. Then I have a bunch of sentimental collection since they were my gateway to IEM i.e Chu 2, Wan'er Studio Edition, and a Nakamichi MV101
Diminishing Return definitely hits quick, like my 200$ S12 2024 isnt 10x better than my 20$ Chu 2, BUT it is better. I also recently jumped into the 600$ range with the Butastur and the improvement isnt drastic either, but by god I dont think I can go back to budget IEMs. How well its tuned, and just the better Clarity and Separation is something I dont think I can live without. Its that soothing to my ears. That said the S12 2024 definitely hits way up above its price. Fantastic little thing. That said I am in this hobby because im enthusiastic about the Tech too. So I do collect IEMs based on their unique driver set up. Im still eyeing xMems IEMs but not a lot of them are "affordable"
If you want an all ‘rounder, the Mangird Tea Pro is the best option in your price range. That said, even with dozens of IEMs, from budget to summit-fi sets, I run the EM6L 90% of the time. The Tea Pro is markedly better when it comes to media consumption, but the EM6L is no slouch there either, being somewhat mid-forward, but with excellent bass and treble and very strong imaging for a budget set. Whatever you choose, it’s best to avoid sets with emphasized lower frequencies as it will narrow staging and impact the clarity of your mids. Upper mids and treble are where most gaming cues live and is thus the most important area of the frequency range for gaming — hence why the EM6L is such a good option at its price. Other sets I’ve run for games that I’ve also thoroughly enjoyed; Thieaudio Hype 4, Crinicle Dusk, Xenns Top Pro, Meze Alba, Truthear Blue and Blue 2, Letshuoer S08 and S12 2024.
Depends on the IEM. For my current rotation: for hip hop, EDM, and some modern metal, I go for bassier sets like the Thieaudio Origin, Monarch MKIV, Jupiter, Hype 4, Mega5est Bass+, etc., Classic rock, hard rock, 90s alternative and grunge, I run sets like the Pilgrim Noire, Letshuoer S08, Top Pro, Meze Alba, or Dusk. Classical, instrumental, acoustic, Aful Performer8, Top Pro, or S12 2024 Anniversary Edition. For gaming, either the Simgot EM6L, Top Pro, or Truthear Blue 2. There are qualities I like about each set. There are a few "all 'rounders" I'm happy to take with me when I travel -- if I had to give up my collection, these are probably the sets I would keep. Top Pro has definitely become one of those. Anything that balances sound and comfort is on that list. Alba is another, surprisingly.
My assumption is the Ultra was a repackaged S12 Anniversary edition, and that looks like the case. At the very least, I'm glad they "reissued" the set, as it was the best of the S12 lineup and compliments the S08 very well. Letshuoer has really nailed the DD-like timbre with some of their recent planars.
I think they were paying attention to what Michael Bruce/Shortbus was doing with the Glamdring mod and changed their tuning philosophy. The S08 was basically a mini Glamdring, without the collab attached, and the 2024 felt like a very natural progression from that. I hope they continue down that road. At the very least, I know Michael Bruce is happy now that he can work on his own projects now and stop taking mod requests from anyone that tracks him down.
If price isn't an issue: **Hi-fi/summit-fi** Fir Audio Rn6 (Xenon technically has more bass, but the Rn6 is a better set all around) FatFreq Grand Maestro Canpur CP622B Nightjar Singularity Penon Impact Empire Ears Raven 64 Audio Volur (not the most popular set on this list, but stellar soundstage on this set) Sony IER-Z1R (fit can be an issue for some, was for me, demo first if you can) **Midfi/lower Hi-fi** Thieaudio Origin Thieaudio MKIV (Rumble switch on) Punch Audio Martilo Penon x Effect Audio Archangel Penon 10th Anniversary Penon Rival Kiwi Ears x HBB Punch (Martilo is the better set between these two) FatFreq Scarlett Mini (requires EQ) FatFreq Maestro Mini Hisenior Mega5est Bass+ (find and use TimmyT916's/DucBloke's EQ) **Lower Midfi/budget** FatFreq x HBB Deuce Thieaudio Hype 4 (with EQ) Crinicle Dusk (with EQ) QKZ x HBB Khan (bass-forward out of the box, *requires* EQ to clean up some issues with the tuning) **Honorable mention** If you can find one of Michael Bruce's Glamdring mods, may not be the most forward bass, but some of the best tonality you can find for the price. Or, pick up a Lesthuoer S12 Ultra or S12 2024 edition and add a bass shelf -- the S12/S15 drivers can handle a massive amount of abuse in the lower frequencies, especially.
I own some of those $1200 IEMs, and I use none of them for gaming. Many of them make poor gaming sets, with a few exceptions. The IEMs I have used most often are the Simgot EM6L, Supermix 4, Crinicle Zero Blue/Blue 2, Thieaudio Hype 4, Xenns Tea and Top Pro, Meze Alba, and Letshuoer S08 & S12 Anniversary. The one I recommend most is the EM6L. It has consistently been my go-to for competitive gaming most of the time. Coincidentally, it's one of the cheapest sets in my rotation. Unfortunately, recency bias often often plays a major role in what is recommended in the community, which is why you don't see it as often in these types of recommendation threads, but a good tuning remains good forever -- which means many budget sets may be getting more attention recently, but they haven't necessarily dethroned the EM6L. The most critical areas of the frequency range for gaming is the upper mids and treble. The EM6L excels in these areas, offering great detail and clarity, with enough bass extension and emphasis to round out the tuning, but without losing detail in the mids. Imaging and soundstage is solid for an IEM, and they're comfortable enough for long periods of time, with the exception that the nozzle can be challenging for users with smaller ear canals. The other sets I often fall back on for immersive/single-player gaming is the Letshuoer S08. Up from there, the Hype 4; both are warm and fun, with the Hype 4 providing stronger bass performance, albeit typical Thieaudio "rounded" bass, and not as incisive as the S08's faster, more immediate planar slam. On the higher-priced midfi side, as mentioned above, the Hype 4 is one of my go-tos for immersive games, and the Top Pro is my competitive set of choice. It is like the Tea Pro, but with more controlled lower frequencies, and better detail and clarity. The Tea Pro is often recommended for gaming, the Top Pro improves on that tuning. It doesn't quite hit Volur-levels of "holographic" soundstage and imaging, but it is an exceptional set for its price. TL;DR: do not spend more than $500-$600 on a gaming IEM, and to be honest I wouldn't even recommend spending that much. I have dozens of IEMs in my collection, and my favorite gaming sets are on the budget side. Do I still use the Top Pro and Hype 4? Yes, but not as often as the EM6L and S08, and you could get by using the former for every use case -- I just like the S08 enough that I enjoy weaving it into my day-to-day as much as possible.
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