QKZ x HBB - QKZ X HBB Hades

HBB Hades. Just got them myself. It's a weird tuning and definitely not an all rounder but it shines with anything bassy. Also the Kbear Rosefinch but I haven't tried those yet. For the cable just buy a third party one like tripowin zonie, openheart or maybe the kbear cables.

I wouldn't list the QKZ Hades, as it's pretty universally hated, unless you specifically mention that it's a *very* niche tuning most people don't like (even most bassheads). And even among people who like it at all, it's generally a one-genre set. I'd strike the Juzear Clear off the list because it appears to have [really bad unit variance](https://old.reddit.com/r/iems/comments/1insj4z/some_thoughts_on_the_juzear_clear_and_myer_audio/). I still recommend it for the cable if it's on sale for $20, but only if you really want that cable (it normally costs about $15-20 on its own). It's not a highly recommended IEM anyway, it just had a brief period of hype as a basshead IEM. Rarely gets mentioned nowadays. Neither of my two units are true basshead sets (and one is quite bright), so clearly some golden units went out to reviewers. The Blon BL03 ii hasn't got particularly good reviews. It seems to be that if you care about tuning, the original is better. The new one has 2-pin but it has all the ergonomic problems that plagued the original, so I don't think it should be recommended at all, with maybe a nod to the original as being a classic if people are able to pick one up cheaply. I don't think the KBear KB02 is worth recommending unless you specifically want to know what a BC driver does, in which case it's the cheapest way to get one. I got one for that reason. It sounds pretty bad. All the reviews point out the same issue - there's some weird "springy" resonances, especially noticeable with spoken word. It also makes everything sound like you're listening through a cardboard tube. It's just weird, not good. Audio Amigo and Paul Wasabii both have good reviews btw, I agree with pretty much everything they say about them. I don't see the Tin Hifi C2 mentioned on your original list or the new one. That's a 2025 version out recently. I have both and they are both excellent. Lots of reviews out there, but fewer for the 2025 version. I'm not sure if the old one is being discontinued, but it seems to be still for sale for about $20 while the new one is closer to $40. The difference between the two versions is quite subtle. The Moondrop Starfield 2 got pretty universally terrible reviews. The Juzear 41t and the Flame are the same IEM, so I'd put them on the same line - the flame just has a different faceplate. I have the 41t and it's good aside from the annoyingly bad venting, but I'm hesitant about recommending it for the reasons mentioned in my post about the Clear. Since it's a hybrid it really *should* be fully vented and I now consider this an engineering flaw rather than "just the way it is". Every other manufacturer seems to be able to vent their hybrid IEMs properly. The 7Hz Timeless probably shouldn't be on the list because it's very outdated nowadays. It's only a classic because it was the first reasonably-tuned planar, not because it's good by current standards. It was still an early and not-very-refined version of a formula that's been iterated on continually since then. The AE is better but less widely reviewed. The 2 seems to be getting good reviews but I believe it's closer to $300.

I have lots of IEMs and these are my number #3 at any price. I don't EQ them either. Not perfect, but the tuning does one thing really well and is tuned to what the driver is capable of. As an upgrade I'd suggest the Letshuoer S08, which has a similar sort of tuning, but way more technical. The S08 is quite tip sensitive, but I find with the right tips it has extremely holographic imaging. The soundstage is very intimate, but there's a sense of layering you don't get from most IEMs. The main difference in how they present sound is the HBB is quite laid back with slightly distant vocals, whereas the S08 is a bit more energetic (but still a very non-fatiguing tuning) and the vocals are right up in your face. JFTR the S08 is my #2 favourite IEM, just ahead of the HBB. I probably listen to the HBB more overall, because it's my go to if I need to focus on something. The relaxed vocals make it very non-distracting. The S08 forces you to focus on the music a bit more.

If you want bass the 3 best bassy* options are: KZ Castor Pro Bass for a punchy bass and energetic. QKZxHBB for a rumbly and relaxed, inmersive bassy replay. Or Kbear Rosefinch for a big basshead set that has both Rumble and punch, but really focus on bass over everything else. As for which is the more bassy of the 2 options, is ND Planet.

Rosefinch already has the most amount, anything else is not going to have as much bass, if you want at least a bass quality upgrade, you need to likely go to Around $50 if not more brother, but i am not sure if Blue 2 is the upgrade that you are looking for* btw, didnt said Castor Bass* was basshead level, but is still on the bassy side of stuff. And i dont own all of those, mostly QKZxHBB and Castor, but tried similar budget sets around the price range and i have a few friends that do have them and have compared them.

HBB has good collabs, the problem is that it feels like he either refuses, or isnt allowed to, put out good tunned iems under $70 bucks, at least for bassheads. 3 dual DDs he has put on the sub $100 market already and he, somehow, hasnt managed yet to make a basshead iem thats not useless with 90% of music genres (Hades), or has almost as much treble to compensate for bass (Elua), and the last one, that is barely Neutral with a bass boost, which of course is the better regarded of the 3, is the most expensive one at $80, the XuanNV. i just dont get why does he keeps letting bassheads down on budget sets.

I wont call the Zero 2 neutral bright, is actually just balanced, and even a bit on the bassy side, if you want a balanced, kinda neutral iem, actually Tangzu waner is closer to that, also focusing on vocals, its a good middle groun, if you want to test bassy, you can either go for the KZ Castor Pro Bass (there is normal and Pro verions, both with bass and harman verions, you want to go for the bass version) to test a bassy V-shaped iem, more energetic, nice punch, and then you can check the Salnotes Zero original for something actually more neutral bright, leaning to vocals and treble. Also, you have alternatives like the Tanchjim Bunny to the Waner, the Kbear rosefinch for a "bass canon", or the QKZxHBB for a bassy relaxed very warm set, for better or for worse tho, there arent that many "bright" options on the budget bracket.

QKZxHBB is bassy but it has more rumble than punch, the Zero 2, with bass adapter, is similar but it likely would have more punch too, which would make for a bit different experience, althought in terms of amount, likely will have around the same amount of bass, as it is not really that bassy to beging with, is harman, which is a V-shape kind of tuning, would it be an upgrade? yeah, but not a direct upgrade if want you want is a bass focus. I dont think you would find something as similar on the sub $50 price bracket, there is the Blon Jojo that might be similar, but is not that well known or well reviewed, something like the Letshouer S08 would be a better direct upgrade, but of course, is more expensive.

First, KZ used to be shady but nowadays is as símilar as most decent brands (TRN, Moondrop, etc) only caveat is they take the honestly not great approach to throw anything to the wall to see what sticks. Besides volume depends on a lot of things, but Castor is not much hard to move so i am a bit worried to whoever said you need a DAC for volume with original Castor Bass. All That said, is just a good entry set, but not super special vs other things nowadays. KZ does use pretty basic accesories and budget build quality on cheaper stuff so i get your point, but models like Castor are realistically as well build as most sub $25 suff on the market, and some of their models, like Castor, have a pretty decent track record of not coming faulty out of box. If you want alternatives, and still want V-shape but not KZ: 7Hz G1, 7Hz Elua *Ultra* (no HBB Elua), Twistura D-minor or at least Moondrop Chu 2 (struggles with humidity, if you live in a humid city, better get other options). (Consider them in that order of recomendation). If you want bassy V: The closest to it are 7Hz Salnotes Zero 2 for kinda balanced bassy sound, still energetic, QKZxHBB for bassy inmersive sound, kinda relaxed tho (Not Hades or Khan, the plain QKZxHBB), or Kbear Rosefinch for a very clear bass leaning. If you want more insight on those models or want to see other alternatives, and If you havent checked it yet: This is a Sub $50-ish iem list i made: [- Click Here -](https://www.reddit.com/r/iems/s/ewQg6y32HB) Youll find most of the iems mentioned there for a bit mode insight on what to expect.

1.- There is no in-between in the hobby XD, you either want bass or not as much, so QKZxHBB is the bare minimun and punch might not be the best (is a bit soft). 2.- Waner? for bassheads? only with EQ, otherwise, no chance. PS: Basshead here speaking XD

under $35 there isnt that many options man. For starters, most iems like Chu2 or maybe 7Hz G1 are V-shaped, so they have a lot of bass but also a lot of treble too, not sure if youll have a problem with that. Known bassy iems that work with gaming are etiher QKZxHBB, which is kinda relaxed, boomy, a more rumbly and "involving" sound with its bass bur also could feel "muddy", not so clear, depending on your tolerance, though still is probably the most bassy recomended one. And in the other hand you have KZ Castor Bass which is more clean but also more energetic and have a more punchy bass but also more energetic treble (is a V-shape too but this one clearly leans on bass if you adjust the sound with the included tuning switches). Both should kinda work but not sure what you'll enjoy better.

HBB Hades are a fun set

I've listened the FatFreq Scarlet Minis and they are not even close to QKZ & HBB Hades. If you are a true basshead go for Hades. The punch-slam-rumble you get from them is incomperable. But you'll loose some detail, when you crank them up it's not bad they are capable. They take EQ and power like a champ too...

Nah, I have them since these were released. You need to work on the seal. I use widebore eartips to get less bass of them, as for me it's an overkill.

I have 10-ish different models in the 10€ to 150€ range, mostly for PUBG and about 3000 hours in the game. Here are my top picks: - Tripowin Vivace 35€ - Simgot EM6L 120€ - Truthear Crinacle Zero blue 60€ (need AMP&DAC) - QKZ x HBB 20€ In that order. For other games, the Simgot and Crinacle Zero jump higher. The next ones can do, but not competitive: - Moondrop Quarks DSP 15€ - 7Hz Salnotes Zero 25€ - Apple earpods 3.5mm 20€ - KZ Zex Pro Crn 40€ Can't recommend for PUBG: - Moondrop Chu 25€ - Brainwavz Omega 15€ I recommend checking Fresh Reviews on Youtube, he checked many pricier models...

My favorites for PUBG so far: \- Kefine Delci Angel Ears (Delci AE) 70€ \- Tripowin Vivace 30€ \- Truthear Crinacle Zero blue 60€ \- Simgot EM6L 100€ \- QKZ x HBB 20€ (but short-lasting) What I wouldn't recommend: \- 7Hz Salnotes Zero (partrially usable) 25€ \- Moondrop Chu 20€ \- KZ Zex Pro (CRN) 30-50€ I do have the HD 560S, and I use them balanced using the 4.4mm cable and the Akliam PD4. They, like most headphones, cause "gamer hair", and that's a look I can't rock at work. That's why I mostly use IEMs. I also use the IEM-s with 4.4mm cables.

Okay! I am new to these. I have been using a **QKZ X HBB** since **2023**. Just got this as a recommendation at that time never looked into the details. Now I want to learn more and buy my 2nd pair of IEM. What's the difference between a Non-Planar and Planar? Google said Non is Fast and Detailed. And Planar is high-resolution and detailed. Is that it? I mostly play FPS Game and **QKZ X HBB** was really good for the footsteps for me. The music quality was good for me too currently I am looking for something that's warmer ig? more heavy overall. Please help me out

Mas maigi dun ka magtanong sa r/iems dun din ako nakakuha ng suggestion eh, qkz x hbb nabili ko around 600 pesos lang, lakas ng bass, perfect sa mga nilalaro ko na pang cinematic.

Gamit ko ngayon qkz x hbb around 600 pesos ko nabili. Sobrang lakas ng bass.

Well, I own it and disagree with this. We shall see what others say. Its a pretty commonly recommended inexpensive bassy iem.