QKZ x HBB - QKZ X HBB Hades

Yeah dude you either got a defective pair or not good enough seal, the bass is very rumbly on these sometimes it feels like my eardrum is wobbling. Maybe you are looking iems with more pronounced mids instead of lowend.

I don't have experience with Blons, but with the QKZ, I find the bass very rumbly, almost overblown, and the vocals somewhat recessed. However, in instrumental-heavy tracks where there’s less focus on heavy bass (such as 808 drums or synthetic bass), non-synth drums sound pleasant. Genres like pagan folk or Mongolian throat singing, for instance, come across as immersive and enjoyable.

I wouldn't list the QKZ Hades, as it's pretty universally hated, unless you specifically mention that it's a *very* niche tuning most people don't like (even most bassheads). And even among people who like it at all, it's generally a one-genre set. I'd strike the Juzear Clear off the list because it appears to have [really bad unit variance](https://old.reddit.com/r/iems/comments/1insj4z/some_thoughts_on_the_juzear_clear_and_myer_audio/). I still recommend it for the cable if it's on sale for $20, but only if you really want that cable (it normally costs about $15-20 on its own). It's not a highly recommended IEM anyway, it just had a brief period of hype as a basshead IEM. Rarely gets mentioned nowadays. Neither of my two units are true basshead sets (and one is quite bright), so clearly some golden units went out to reviewers. The Blon BL03 ii hasn't got particularly good reviews. It seems to be that if you care about tuning, the original is better. The new one has 2-pin but it has all the ergonomic problems that plagued the original, so I don't think it should be recommended at all, with maybe a nod to the original as being a classic if people are able to pick one up cheaply. I don't think the KBear KB02 is worth recommending unless you specifically want to know what a BC driver does, in which case it's the cheapest way to get one. I got one for that reason. It sounds pretty bad. All the reviews point out the same issue - there's some weird "springy" resonances, especially noticeable with spoken word. It also makes everything sound like you're listening through a cardboard tube. It's just weird, not good. Audio Amigo and Paul Wasabii both have good reviews btw, I agree with pretty much everything they say about them. I don't see the Tin Hifi C2 mentioned on your original list or the new one. That's a 2025 version out recently. I have both and they are both excellent. Lots of reviews out there, but fewer for the 2025 version. I'm not sure if the old one is being discontinued, but it seems to be still for sale for about $20 while the new one is closer to $40. The difference between the two versions is quite subtle. The Moondrop Starfield 2 got pretty universally terrible reviews. The Juzear 41t and the Flame are the same IEM, so I'd put them on the same line - the flame just has a different faceplate. I have the 41t and it's good aside from the annoyingly bad venting, but I'm hesitant about recommending it for the reasons mentioned in my post about the Clear. Since it's a hybrid it really *should* be fully vented and I now consider this an engineering flaw rather than "just the way it is". Every other manufacturer seems to be able to vent their hybrid IEMs properly. The 7Hz Timeless probably shouldn't be on the list because it's very outdated nowadays. It's only a classic because it was the first reasonably-tuned planar, not because it's good by current standards. It was still an early and not-very-refined version of a formula that's been iterated on continually since then. The AE is better but less widely reviewed. The 2 seems to be getting good reviews but I believe it's closer to $300.

I have lots of IEMs and these are my number #3 at any price. I don't EQ them either. Not perfect, but the tuning does one thing really well and is tuned to what the driver is capable of. As an upgrade I'd suggest the Letshuoer S08, which has a similar sort of tuning, but way more technical. The S08 is quite tip sensitive, but I find with the right tips it has extremely holographic imaging. The soundstage is very intimate, but there's a sense of layering you don't get from most IEMs. The main difference in how they present sound is the HBB is quite laid back with slightly distant vocals, whereas the S08 is a bit more energetic (but still a very non-fatiguing tuning) and the vocals are right up in your face. JFTR the S08 is my #2 favourite IEM, just ahead of the HBB. I probably listen to the HBB more overall, because it's my go to if I need to focus on something. The relaxed vocals make it very non-distracting. The S08 forces you to focus on the music a bit more.

Xuan nv won't sound like qkz hbb, its more of a flat tuning, with darkish treble (like on qkz x hbb). If you really like the tuning of qkz x hbb then the possible upgrade is blon z300 x hbb. It should sound the same, but with higher quality drivers, and a little bit brighter treble. Qkz x hbb is my favorite iem and I can't find anything i like more. I hope the z300 won't disappoint. I tried nearly all warm-bass heavy iems with tamed treble. I just can't find anything better. If you want i could give you my opinion on blon z300 vs qkz hbb when I receive them.

Qkz x hbb has way more rumble than castor bass (not pro). I don't think that pro really improves on that aspect. But you need to find the right tips for your ears. Stock qkz hbb tips kinda trash like on most budget iems. Qkz x hbb hades has even more bass, sub bass a little worse than qkz x hbb, but they're more comfortable at higher volume, but it's not for everyone and not for every type of music and it's harder to drive, but i really love them, they're my favorite with qkz x hbb atm. Castor and castor pro are also a little harder to drive. You won't find better bass quality with good quantity at this price than qkz x hbb. Kbear Rosefinch has more quantity but it lacks any rumble and punch for me. Kz saga bass could be a good competitor to qkz x hbb from what I've heard. Also there is new 7hz elua, wich is hbb colab, also could be something interesting, but a little bit more expensive. I'm waiting for both of those and more pairs to hear them, since i can't really find anything to replace qkz x hbb. I'd say go with qkz x hbb. They're absolute beasts for hip hop and any other genre really, if you're into dark sound signature which helps bass. Qkz x hbb hades are absolutely fucking insane for hip hop, but could be lacking in other genres, but i like them for most other music too. But for movies i always use qkz x hbb.

I don't think you can get disappointed by 7hz legato, especially if you can get them at 70$. I'm testing them atm. My favorite iem before getting legato was qkz x hbb, at 10-12$ you just can't beat them. I tried kbear rosefinch, kz castor bass, kz castor pro bass, qkz hades, qkz khan, truthear zero blue. Qkz x hbb and 7hz legato destroys them in the bass department. It's very punchie and rumblie. And at the same time it's clean. Correct tips are very-very crucial when you are looking for good bass. Atm I can't say with 100% confidence what i like more, but I'm leaning to legato heavily. I feel like legato has a bit more bass, with a bit more quality and clarity. The soundstage is definitely wider, and it has more details, thanks to 2 driver setup. Talking about drivers. It's fucking nuts that it has 12mm driver just for bass. And 6mm for everything else. Also it's less shoutier than qkz x hbb somehow. Note that qkz x hbb is already a very dark set for most people. I have very bad sibilant hearing and the legatos sound more comfortable for me. Is it 7-10 times better than qkz x hbb? No. But it's worth the shot imo, not like there's a lot if any sets that are legato alternatives in this price range. Note that they are big, but i don't have any issue with fit. I have yet to receive blon z300, 7hz elua, kz saga bass, kz prx. But i don't think they're beating legato or qkz hbb. Although I'm hyped to hear how planars replay bass on kz prx. Also I'm in the same boat with you. I don't get obsession with clarity. But to each their own. I just think it's a bit forced. Or I'm for real hearing everything differently compared to most people. But none of my friends prefer sets that are cleaner and less bassy.

I don't think you can get disappointed by 7hz legato, especially if you can get them at 70$. I'm testing them atm. My favorite iem before getting legato was qkz x hbb, at 10-12$ you just can't beat them. I tried kbear rosefinch, kz castor bass, kz castor pro bass, qkz hades, qkz khan, truthear zero blue. Qkz x hbb and 7hz legato destroys them in the bass department. It's very punchie and rumblie. And at the same time it's clean. Correct tips are very-very crucial when you are looking for good bass. Atm I can't say with 100% confidence what i like more, but I'm leaning to legato heavily. I feel like legato has a bit more bass, with a bit more quality and clarity. The soundstage is definitely wider, and it has more details, thanks to 2 driver setup. Talking about drivers. It's fucking nuts that it has 12mm driver just for bass. And 6mm for everything else. Also it's less shoutier than qkz x hbb somehow. Note that qkz x hbb is already a very dark set for most people. I have very bad sibilant hearing and the legatos sound more comfortable for me. Is it 7-10 times better than qkz x hbb? No. But it's worth the shot imo, not like there's a lot if any sets that are legato alternatives in this price range. Note that they are big, but i don't have any issue with fit. I have yet to receive blon z300, 7hz elua, kz saga bass, kz prx. But i don't think they're beating legato or qkz hbb. Although I'm hyped to hear how planars replay bass on kz prx. Also I'm in the same boat with you. I don't get obsession with clarity. But to each their own. I just think it's a bit forced. Or I'm for real hearing everything differently compared to most people. But none of my friends prefer sets that are cleaner and less bassy.

i meam, yeah, but at leas the vivace sounds cleaner so bas wont get as possibly distracting like QKZxHBB could be. dont get me wrong, i have the QKZxHBB and love it, but Vivace is basically one of the cheapest Meta there is on the market and you can hardly dislike it.

First, i forgot to mention, not sure if you know, but im case you dont, im the one that talked to you on your post (the one you linked) about the 4khz sensitivity, so we already have talked :) Technicalities are fine on waner, most iems under $20 arent all that better one from each other, Waner can be used for gaming but you are not going to get the best sound cues, nor a great directional sound, thats the thing, Iems lile Zero 2 would likely be a bit better but not that great on the fit. The other option could be to get the QKZxHBB, but thats very bassy, unless you are from the group of people that enjoy that much bassy stuff, you wont like it much.

Not sure what you need to hear for drumming, however, i have: Orca, Waner, Castor bass and QKZxHBB, if you want me to try/check anything, just tell me. btw, from these 4, i personally find the bass on the waner to be the most satisfying one in terms of quality, seconded by the castor bass, but could be too much, on the other hand, orca is good, but you likely want to use some amplifcation with them to get the best put of them, and QKZxHBB is more of a rumbly bass than packing too much punch, but irs a great replay of sound nontheless.

you have 3 options: 1.- try your luck again to see if QKZxHBB works (at this price range, the most relaxed bassy one). 2.- Get Tangzu Waner beacuse of the pretty tamed treble and EQ bass into it (Or EQ the treble down ln any other of your iems so you stop wasting money). 3.- Or overpower the treble with bass with something like the Kbear Rosefinch. Other than that, under $20, i dont think there are that many "dark" IEMs to pick from, and this does seem to be a case of sensitivity. but BTW, do you like to listen at high volumes?

Dark iems, specially under $50, are hard to do because most people would be quick to say they are "muddy", i have QKZxHBB and i dont think it has much problems of sibilance, if anything at all, but is a bass centric iem, if you want clarity just EQ more bass into a decent iem, i also have waner and have tried a few bassy EQs and they manage clarity with extra bass fairly well, but is more about the rumble than anything, if you also want punch thats another whole story.

If you are willing to EQ, the Waner actually, otherwise, Rosefinch for full blast Rumble, or QKZxHBB for a still somewhat correct sound. Castor is more punchy than rumbly.

they are all around the same honestly, is more or less about how much you take care of them, but probably Waner or QKZxHBB a bit better over the Rosefinch.

If you want a rumbly and punchy bass, QKZxHBB, if you want good clarity with some extra bass, vivace, both should work foe gaming. taking into account that your budget is around $80, you might wanna check my IEM lists: Sub $50 list: https://www.reddit.com/r/iems/s/WfhfLLl0np Sub $100 list: https://www.reddit.com/r/iems/s/OXgg8IsbYi Please do search and read about the "gaming update" on one of the 2 so you cab narrow down your options, you might also wanna check Tangzu Fudu.

If you want bass the 3 best bassy* options are: KZ Castor Pro Bass for a punchy bass and energetic. QKZxHBB for a rumbly and relaxed, inmersive bassy replay. Or Kbear Rosefinch for a big basshead set that has both Rumble and punch, but really focus on bass over everything else. As for which is the more bassy of the 2 options, is ND Planet.

Rosefinch already has the most amount, anything else is not going to have as much bass, if you want at least a bass quality upgrade, you need to likely go to Around $50 if not more brother, but i am not sure if Blue 2 is the upgrade that you are looking for* btw, didnt said Castor Bass* was basshead level, but is still on the bassy side of stuff. And i dont own all of those, mostly QKZxHBB and Castor, but tried similar budget sets around the price range and i have a few friends that do have them and have compared them.

really depends on your preference, for some sounds muddy, for others lacks bass. btw, you shouldnt really care about the QKZxHBB being a collab with HBB too much, since what he allegedly did was a long time ago and the iems are pretty good for bassy music, so, i dont think is worth to consider that when you are looking for a sound you like.

I already told you my opinions in one of those post i believe, but in my experience the Castor Bass has a lot more bass than QKZxHBB, QKZ Is for me the middle ground, and Zero2 Is the less bassy. The cleanest of the 3 Is the Zero2, second by the Castor, althought you might need to crank the volume for that Clarity, QKZxHBB Is the one with most coloration, but the lesser bass than QKZxHBB makes It a more relaxed listening. That said, probably Zero2 Is the one with less bass hit, just slightly below QKZxHBB tho, castor Bass has the most punchy bass of the 3.

I personally enjoy the QKZxHBB more since i it works better for high volume listening, the bass is rumbly and inmersive and the coloration is not even that bad once you got used to them but it really depends on what you are looking for, Zero 2 is better for more music, QKZxHBB is not be the best for some music genres specially things like acustic or ballads. Castor just kinda works in between but is a more energetic and bassy replay that not everyone could enjoy.

HBB has good collabs, the problem is that it feels like he either refuses, or isnt allowed to, put out good tunned iems under $70 bucks, at least for bassheads. 3 dual DDs he has put on the sub $100 market already and he, somehow, hasnt managed yet to make a basshead iem thats not useless with 90% of music genres (Hades), or has almost as much treble to compensate for bass (Elua), and the last one, that is barely Neutral with a bass boost, which of course is the better regarded of the 3, is the most expensive one at $80, the XuanNV. i just dont get why does he keeps letting bassheads down on budget sets.

you can use it, but it honestly is not the best option for gaming, if you care about amplification or sounds quality, most iems around $30 or less would be fine for it, but if you plan on do some gaming, other options could be better like QKZxHBb if you like bassy sound, Salnotes Zero 2 for a something overall pretty good sounding for music and nice for gaming, if you can do the strech, at around $30 bucks, the tripowin vivace would ensure a better comfort than Zero 2 and is really well liked around here for gaming.

if you dont mind the noticeable extra bass of the QKZxHBB and want to save a few bucks, QKZxHBB is fine, but ill personally pick vivace for overall use.

both should be fine but bass can get distractive if its too much, QKZxHBB has quite some amount of bass, not sure if its going to feel like too much for you tho, but in any case, the vivace would likely be safer sound-wise.

having the QKZxHBB (besides other models like Kefine Klean, and having tested Cadenza, Salnotes Zero blue and so on), there arent that many similar warm options around $50, and around $100 there are options but with some things to consider, first, the closets i think would be 7hz Legato, but not sure how different is going to feel since is also a bass heavy iem but it has more amount of and a stronger presence of bass vs the QKZ one, so thats a bass heavy option if you want one. If you want something just more warm and relaxed, the Aful Explorer is the way, but might be too expensive if is not on a sale, so, Tangzu Fudu, if you can find it, comes quite close, but is a VERY relaxed set, so you might need some time to get used to it even if using the QKZ. And if you have a dongle DAC to power them the Letshouer S08 could also be an excellent choice for warm and bassy. If you havent checked it yet, This is a Sub $100-ish iem list i made: [\- Click Here -](https://www.reddit.com/r/iems/s/OXgg8IsbYi) Youn can get a bit more insgiht on each one of the mentioned iems if you wish.

I wont call the Zero 2 neutral bright, is actually just balanced, and even a bit on the bassy side, if you want a balanced, kinda neutral iem, actually Tangzu waner is closer to that, also focusing on vocals, its a good middle groun, if you want to test bassy, you can either go for the KZ Castor Pro Bass (there is normal and Pro verions, both with bass and harman verions, you want to go for the bass version) to test a bassy V-shaped iem, more energetic, nice punch, and then you can check the Salnotes Zero original for something actually more neutral bright, leaning to vocals and treble. Also, you have alternatives like the Tanchjim Bunny to the Waner, the Kbear rosefinch for a "bass canon", or the QKZxHBB for a bassy relaxed very warm set, for better or for worse tho, there arent that many "bright" options on the budget bracket.

QKZxHBB is bassy but it has more rumble than punch, the Zero 2, with bass adapter, is similar but it likely would have more punch too, which would make for a bit different experience, althought in terms of amount, likely will have around the same amount of bass, as it is not really that bassy to beging with, is harman, which is a V-shape kind of tuning, would it be an upgrade? yeah, but not a direct upgrade if want you want is a bass focus. I dont think you would find something as similar on the sub $50 price bracket, there is the Blon Jojo that might be similar, but is not that well known or well reviewed, something like the Letshouer S08 would be a better direct upgrade, but of course, is more expensive.

All these have atleast 2 DD. I preferred the forteza with eq if you have that as an option since the dd's are in a sort of iso config and have a BA to help with the high end 7hz legato, HBB Hades, Kiwi Ears Forteza

Yes, it does for bassheads. Probably, ONLY bassheads, much like the HBB Hades. Unlike the Hades, the Rosefinch has a bit more clarity. The Hades sacrifices everything for bass.

If bass is the only thing u want then go for qkz x hbb hades blindy

HBB Hades are a fun set

It all goes down to either the HBB QKz (bassy, lush and really full) or Castor Bass (energetic, something you could hear at a club). I have Castor and I've demoed QKZHBB. Both Heroes and Villains and Brat sound amazing in Castor while I've found that some older hip-hop records (WuTang, OutKast) sound better on QKZ.

I really liked the HBB x QKZ set, the KZ Castor bass version is pretty good as well.

Nah, I have them since these were released. You need to work on the seal. I use widebore eartips to get less bass of them, as for me it's an overkill.

Save money and just buy the QKZ x HBB. Don't let the price fool you. its one of the best bass focused IEM below 10k. It has good quantity without overpowering anything else. Also beware of bassy IEM recommendations, most aren't bassy enough and audiophiles tend to overstate an IEM being bassy since they prefer only a small amount of it in the first place / or they're so used to neutral tuning and anything with a bass shelf is already considered too bassy for them

When i asked about Give me recommendations for blon bl03 like sounds iem few people suggested this this. And my first impression was fuck Noo. This thing not even close to blon 03. This thing completely lack mid bassy bass i specifically asked for in the og post. Im not even sure these people actually listen to these iems before giving advice to others. I have bought my mother a CCA CRA & This thing sounding more closer to CCA CRA than blon bl03. For future buyers - If you looking for The mid bassy bass (ex- the bass guitar sound) This doesn't have it. This just flat sounding & Doesn't fun to listen at all. Now im gon buy some dunu eartips and trying to get a good fit from my blon. Prolly gon gift this shit to one of my relatives.

Well in somehow mine Qkz × hbb has more upper table than blon (way more). In blon some of highs are toned down via that bass. But in Qkz there is no bass to tone down highs so it just sounds flat to me. Maybe it's actually a faulty unit. 😢

Hmmm... mine also weren't very rumbly or too punchy. They were warming though. The mids and treble were nice. I tip rolled a lot, but still didn't couldnt get them to sound like as rumbly and punchy as ppl have said.

I have 10-ish different models in the 10€ to 150€ range, mostly for PUBG and about 3000 hours in the game. Here are my top picks: - Tripowin Vivace 35€ - Simgot EM6L 120€ - Truthear Crinacle Zero blue 60€ (need AMP&DAC) - QKZ x HBB 20€ In that order. For other games, the Simgot and Crinacle Zero jump higher. The next ones can do, but not competitive: - Moondrop Quarks DSP 15€ - 7Hz Salnotes Zero 25€ - Apple earpods 3.5mm 20€ - KZ Zex Pro Crn 40€ Can't recommend for PUBG: - Moondrop Chu 25€ - Brainwavz Omega 15€ I recommend checking Fresh Reviews on Youtube, he checked many pricier models...

Okay! I am new to these. I have been using a **QKZ X HBB** since **2023**. Just got this as a recommendation at that time never looked into the details. Now I want to learn more and buy my 2nd pair of IEM. What's the difference between a Non-Planar and Planar? Google said Non is Fast and Detailed. And Planar is high-resolution and detailed. Is that it? I mostly play FPS Game and **QKZ X HBB** was really good for the footsteps for me. The music quality was good for me too currently I am looking for something that's warmer ig? more heavy overall. Please help me out

I just recently picked up one of those because it is so often recommended and I got it super cheap. It does have a nice tuning and a lot of bass, but the bass was very… soft & poofy?… and I didn’t really like that quality about it.

Well, I do agree with the trash cable part of the comment in reference to QKZ x HBB. I disliked that cable more than any other stock cable I’ve come across and couldn’t replace it fast enough.

Yeah, those stock eartips… 😖 This was the first IEM where I noticed huge rather than just subtle differences with different ear tips. When I first listened to these out of the box I thought they sounded awful. No bass and the rest was screechy. I thought, what in the world? Aren’t these supposed to be really bassy and relaxed? What is this screechy mess? It took a minute for my brain to kick in and think to try different ear tips. When I did, it was a whole different sound. I mean, they’re still budget ear buds and it didn’t make them sound like something top of the line or anything, but they did finally sound like they were supposed to sound.

maganda yung Tri Kai pero kung gusto mo mas mura at budget friendly, try mo yung QKZ x HBB

**KZ Saga Bass Edition:** If you want bass, alongwith no compromises on Mids and Treble. KZ Saga is overall the best due to its superior tonality. You can listen to various genres unlike the others. **QKZ x HBB & Rosefinch:** Strong Sub bass, warm vocals, lacks details in treble. This is great for Hip Hop, but might not enjoy other genres. The same goes for Roseflinch. **KZ Castor/Castor Pro:** Castor has more Mid bass, punchy bass. Decent rubble. Thin mids, shouty treble. Castor Pro is more balanced, it's the best of both worlds, KZ Saga has better tonality, but Castor Pro has slightly better technicalities. It's very EQ friendly. https://preview.redd.it/0vpgb08z7r8e1.png?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2d12b0acf442af8984f685492e0f7fe1c82a41e8 KZ Saga is overall best imo, due to how it's tuned.

If your budget is tight, and you only want Bass QKZ x HBB is what you need. If you want Bass and open up other genres aside from Hip Hop, KZ Saga is good at that. Saga has more bass and tonality than Castor Pro, but Castor Pro has slightly better technicals.

The QKZ x HBB were my first iems. I still use these because I enjoy the warmth and punchy bass for EDM tracks and occasional immersive gaming. And the build quality is nice too: hard resin shell and metal framing. https://preview.redd.it/cdmba49ft3se1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=17b825476a5f10f60d43cd50114213945fbb8481

QKZ X HBB is tuned masterfully so probably this.

Look up the QKZ x HBB or the new Tripowin Vivace, both really great iems for gaming

Knowing how well these roundup. My monarch mk3’s get here today. Im going to glue my reds since the right piece indent ear snapped so the cables slide off(w chifi) and compare. Ill compare varistions dark saber b3 since those are the iems I own. Also if you want a beater set that way warmer and more body. QKZ x HBB is identical to the red for 19$

For just purely bass check out the QKZ x HBB.

Is "so" generic that I haven't found another active reviewer whose tuning I like as much. To be honest, I don't know much about HBB. I blindly picked up QKZ x HBB a long time ago and liked the tuning so much that I tuned some of my IEMs to this setting (via Squiglink tool).

Even cheapo QKZ x HBB is very well tuned for bassy music.

As an enthusiast of QKZ x HBB I cannot concur.

So many different IEMs and headphones have passed through my hands (and ears) over the years, but I still come back to these little darlings very often. Yes, they sound much better with EQ - my favorite setting is Hot Monster Output vis MSEB in Hiby R4. The stock cable is terrible quality, but QKZ has a nice looking and flexible gold cable for a few dollars, shown in the picture. The stock eartips are meh, I prefer to use CP155, or TRI Clarion. I have had IEMs that costed 30x more then these, but if I want to just have some fun and headbang to my favorite tracks then I grab QKZ x HBB. Not every type of music sounds good on them - I don't recommend them for symphonic music, or where there are many instruments (due to small soundstage), but for metal, electronic, or ambient they are great. Is there an upgrade path for these IEMs? Something that would be similarly tuned but a bit more detailed, with maybe a bit more soundstage?

Apart from all the drama about KZ that happened a while ago, I think Castor Bass are great budget IEMs. As for which one is better - for the music I listen to, I definitely prefer QKZxHBB. In Castors, if you turn off all the switches, they are better for movies and games. Music also sounds good in them, but so far I haven't found anything that gives me more pure joy than QKZxHBB.

I have the Rosefinch, love it. Tried Castor and QKZxHBB - bass heavy but not basshead level. Do you tested them both? (Planet and Blue 2)

Another vote for the QKZ x HBB. As a bass head, these absolutely thump and take to EQ for even more bass quite well. I've been surprised by how nice they sound, regardless of the price.

Qkz x hbb is not really basshead level, it's warm. It's very nice in some ways, for the price it's fabulous, it takes eq like a champ, so you can definitely crank the bass up, it will take it

I’d say pass both and go for the KZ Dawn Silver. It has more bass then both QKZxHBB and Castor Pro. I’m my opinion, the Dawn Silver is also more clear sounding than QKZxHBB. I have all three.

So I revisited both the QKZ x HBB and the Hades and you were right - the QxH are DEFINITELY superior. Kind of shocked at my overblown initial impression of the Hades. Definitely swapped positions in the rotation. Cheers!

10000% get the QKZ x HBB. The bass is dead on and so well done with really clean mids and trebles. My favorite IEMs under $50 (under $30 really). That'll leave you with some extra cash to get some good aftermarket tips like Spinfit CP100 or Xelastecs.

Yeah I love mine!

You're not talking about the Hades? I've not heard such strong dislike of the regular QKZ x HBB before

I have the qkz x hbb, and then got the zero blues. Im using mine mostly for gaming, but the blues are a deffinite upgrade over the qkz x hbb. Huge nozzle though . I heard it was big, but its really big.

Qkz x hbb are good for footsteps in cod. Only paid 15 bucks on Amazon for those which is insane for how good they are. I stepped up to truthear x crinicle blues which are better but 50 bucks.

KZ ZSN Pro X, QKZ x HBB, and 7hz Crinicle Zero 2. The QKZ x HBB were my favorite of the bunch, and the KZ were the worst imo.

Tanchjim Origin for great all rounder QKZ x HBB for bassy and super cheap Simgot Supermix 4 for a cheaper all rounder

Delci AE for sure the best gaming ones in that price range, I'm not a big fan of them for music tho, I much prefer Vivace safe tuning but tbh they are not as detailed in either gaming or music, hnorable mention to QKZ x HBB, those you can grab for $15 and are still rly good for gaming, bit behind delci ae and qkz x hbb and more fun sounding than vivace

even $15 qkz x hbb is better for gaming than hexa, this guy has delci, not delci ae, delci ae is completely different beast for gaming

didn't like Hexa because of BA timbre, they are decent for music, Delci AE too, not a huge fan for music but for gaming they are amazing, qkz x hbb I rly like the fit so I used them much more, not a fan of the cable but it's like $15 for the whole IEM, for music it's not as good as other two it lacks detail but for gaming it's good, not like Delci AE but it's not that far behind tbh, it's not like a step up to go from qkz x hbb to delci ae like it would be going splendor II(these are the ones I use)

not good for gaming, good hbb for gaming is QKZxHBB, the $20 one, from cheap ones ZiiGaat Nuo is also pretty good, but they both fall behind Vivace in gaming tho Nuo is better for music

A few days ago I really got interested in IEMs, researched a bit here on the sub and than decided to order a few cheaper models on Amazon sale to test what I like and if I like IEMs in general. Turns out I’m totally hooked and really like to listen music with them. For now I just have my apple DAC and my iPhone, but I’m already in the process building a music collection and also researching for DAPs 😂 So now to the question, I understood that I like a bit of bass so the Gate and the Wan‘ers was not my taste, although the Wan’er really does have the best build quality of all the IEMs tested here. My favorite from this four was definitely the QKZ x HBB, liked the clear voices and treble + the rumbly bass the most. In addition they also fitted the best. I’m now deciding if I send all of them back and upgrade directly to a pair of more expensive IEMs, I have a budget of around 80€, or if I should just stay with the QKZ x HBB and spend a bit of my budget for a higher quality cable (don’t like the cheap plastic cables) and upgrade later when I have more experience. What is your suggestion? And what higher quality IEMs for 50-80€ can you recommend which are an upgrade to the QKZ x HBB with a similar sound profile? Thanks a lot, I'm curious to see what you recommend.

And it similar to the QKZ x HBB with a warm, bassy sound?

Agree. Zs10 pro 2 ( uppose to be upgrade ) are crap.Too bright and harsh heights. Vocals sound weird to me. Also overhiped to me are Castor Bass,HBB ''gaming'' collab. I have KZ Castor,QKZ x HBB ( these 2 are the crappiest ) Vader,Zs10 pro,PRX,and CCA Rhapsody. Rhapsody are the only ones that are good for me as a bass head.NIce sub bass rumble,punchy mid bass,present vocals,no harsh or piercing heights ( like zs10 pro 2),Decent wide soundstage.THey just sound good. Took me a while to make them comfortable,was about to give up on them. Definitely i recomend them for a basshead They need short steam eartips ( i shorten the stock ones ) to make them usable for 6,7-10 hours.Otherwise they push too much in your ear canal and cause pain due big nozzle. I ordered some eartips that suppose to work with them ( **Zhulinniao Zhu Rythme** ) but they are in transit and i didn't try them yet. I'd give them a try if u are a basshead.THey are good.

I think you should give them some time, let yourself get used to how they sound, try out the different eartips etc. Give yourself at least a month or so and listen to one set for a couple days than try another. Iems can take some time to adjust to a tuning. However if you like the Qkz x HBB look at some reviews of the Aful Explorer and the S08 (I own the xHBB and the S08), I feel like those are good premium step ups for that type of sound, though I don't know if the Apple dongle is enough for the S08 as it's a planar if you do also end up getting a DAP it will probably be enough power. Tripowin Zonies are nice cheaper cables that you can pick colours with and work well.

Since a normal human being would say no to KZ, id go with QKZ x HBB heard that one is nice if you like bass

Qkz X HBB - well done bass? clean mids? What tremble? 🤐

Dude, I'm really glad you like yours, because for me, it was the worst experience with an iem I've ever owned. I own iems from the analytical to the bassmonster and that was without a doubt my worst iem. But I'm really glad you liked it!🤟🏻

Not the Hades, the cheap QKZ X HBB.

Anyway, that was just my experience, I found the bass to bleed severely into the mids to the point where it made the experience not fun at all. Obviously I wasn't expecting anything technical, I was just expecting a basshead worthy of the hype surrounding the HBB name. For the price I expected a minimum of cohesion which unfortunately I didn't find. But like I said, that was just my not-so-nice experience.

Qkz x hbb … dull bass and cheapest sound ever. Maybe they are little better for gamers. As an music admiring adult I was more than disappointed… they are going on eBay soon. Jumped on the hypetrain with that shitters and won’t do that again. Had to shoot me two new sets to get over that disappointment emotionally: Tripowin Piccolo and KZ Saga. They are both so much better than the Qkz x hbb.

That’s exactly what I noticed while desperately changing through all the ear tips I had at hand. They are very tip sensitive at least in my ears. Further they have a strange fit and a nozzle that is very uncomfortable especially in my left ear channel. I wanted to like them, took the Hype Train and ordered. But (and it saddenes me, really) they are not for me, since even my TWS have a subbass and bass that is awesome and well defined and not bleeding into mids and treble. Now I am enjoying the KZ Saga Bass I got last Saturday – they’re nearly perfect for me and my ears. There is no need to brain burn them and get used to them. And their finish is premium, too with the black metal shell. But of course I will give the Qkz x HBB another chance tonight since I rotate through my IEMs and TWS all day. And if it’s given that the QKZ x HBB simply aren’t for me and my ears cause I am getting older and my hearing changes, then I‘ll put them back in their box, pack a second cable without Mic and two new and fresh and better sets of Ear Tips in and put them online for sale. Hoping someone out there will enjoy them as you and the other nice commenter above you. I thought I would enjoy them, too.

For that price IEMs like the QKZ x HBB or new Tripowin x 0diBi Vivace would be a great choice.

An older IEM called the QKZ x HBB would be better than the above selection although might not be available. I would rank KZ Castor /Pro (the silver one) top from the 3 At a slightly higher price, Tripowin x 0diBi Vivace would be way better than the above. But if budget is a concern stick to the above, as u might need to change the tips if u have fit issues, further increasing the price.

If you love bass and don't mind it being slightly muddy then this is it. Other wise another alternative is the QKZ X HBB

I have the Salnotes Zero:2 and Simgot EM6L, the EM6L are ok for EDM (my main music I listen to as well) but separate really well and have tons of detail, so you can hear each synth and sound super well. However they are light on bass. The Zero:2 have more bass but can be a little muddy, I wouldn’t say they are overpowering bassy though. I recently had a chance to listen to the Kiwi Ears Cadenza and the QKZ X HBB. The HBB have crazy amounts of bass that never felt overpowering to me, I really enjoyed them for heavier bass EDM. However, for overall I really really really enjoyed the Cadenza for basically anything and everything. Solid bass for EDM with a surprising amount of detail for a single dynamic driver, good separation, decent soundstage, and it handled every other genre well (I also listen to classical, country, rap/hip-hop, rock, and R&B). I am highly considering selling my Zero:2 and getting Cadenza because it sounds super similar but technicalities are way better on the Cadenza. 7hz Dioko is pretty solid as well if you want to try planar, they sound BIG! It’s the only way I can think to describe them.

Bass-boosted * KBEar Rosefinch \* * QKZ x HBB \* * BLON x HBB Z300 * KZ Castor/Castor Pro Black Improved Bass (v-bass to v-bright-ish) \*\* (\* recommend | \*\* personally I own)

I’d keep the qkz x hbb at least, I have a lot of iems and still bust it out once in awhile.

I definitely prefer the qkz x hbb wayyyy over the hades.

Just a good guess (and it’s one of those classic Sony high end sets), plus I have all of those other ones aside from the aoshida (at the time I went for the artti r1 instead, for it’s more analogue lush sound). Out of those the qkz x hbb is actually my favorite lol, but yeah it does make everything sound overly warm.

QKZxHBB if you want a thicc sound, even thought I usually prefer neutral sound signatures and despise excessive muddy bass I always really enjoy my brother's pair whenever I use them. I really like the GATe on the same price range but I wouldn't consider it a blind buy as the bass isn't much if you're new to iems and neutralish gear in general

Qkz x hbb

I got the castors bass edition they feel lackluster to qkz x hbb but then again if you want something with a bit of everything ew300 is a no brainer or if you got the cash and you want bass 7hz legato seems like a pretty good choice

You mean truthear zero? They are perhaps more neutral sounding, when I heard "dans audio reviews" yt channel. Suprisingly enough the most bass you can get from the cheapest, qkz x hbb, they of course doesn't have the best technicalities, separation, or soundstage, but vocals are clean and bass is there. Something more polished would be the Tri x Hbb Kai, but its too shiny and perhaps also out of stock. They are so cheap, that they cost less then the foam buds, and the bass is there. O course dont know if the bass clarity and separation would be enough, but I was quite surprised how good it is. Perhaps they lack in other areas bu defenitelly not in the bass area.

except for the build quality everything about this was so good, i had to replace them with the tanzu waner sg but it seemed to lack smth and wasnt that great, i am planning to get the castor pro tho in the near future but qkz x hbb is a gem.

Yes. I used to own the KZ ZS10 Pro, then moved to QKZ x HBB, TangZu Wan'Er, and the KZ Castor Bass. And honestly the QKZ, Tangzu, and Castor Bass outperforms the ZS10. I haven't heard of the 7hz Zero:2, but I would put the Tangzu Wan'er over the ZS10 all day. It sounds cleaner, and better resolution. Although the tuning of the Wan'er isn't for me. It lacks the bass that I'm looking for. I think from the 3 that I mentioned earlier, I would go for the QKZ x HBB just for it's bass quality (I still think this is unique from the budget price point), the TangZu Wan'er if you prefer a more "balanced" tuning, then the KZ Castor Bass if you prefer a V-shape, fun sounding budget IEM.

I couldn’t stand the Rosefinch personally, but if all you care is bass no matter what, then you may like it. It has a not-so-popular connector type, which may be important to consider if you do cable matching. I loved the Castor Bass. The QKZ x HBB is not that bassy, doesn’t fit this category. For super punch, E20 on sale is a better performer, especially with EDM & Hip-Hop. It graphs similar-ish with the Deuce. I am curious what other IEMs people recommend.

Qkz x hbb

Is more bassy

The only KZ worth buying is EDC Pro or Castor Pro, unless you know how to mod and experiment with IEMs. Even then, sets like QKZ X HBB and Blon BL03 II exist for $30. Spend a bit more than bottom dollar to get value.

I too have the same iem with same cable can u pls show me how u eq them mine sound too bassy

Still good. Lots of bass, decent treble extension, and built like a tank.

The best marriage of being more than the sum of their parts is a really warm and full sound signature, with acoustic music. So I'll go with something like the QKZ x HBB and folk, or even the Hidiz MP145 as an upgrade option. That said, I could get sick of too much folk, so I'll go 7hz Timeless and synth pop. The Timeless is so resolving and fast that it makes electronic sounds a joy.