TANGZU - Shangguan Wan'er Studio Edition (SE)

Can't say about the OG Wan'er but my Wan'er SE is definitely far from being punchy bass. Vocals sounds fantastic though. The Chu2 bass is also isn't punchy atleast not Basshead punchy but better than my Wan'er SE, a lot more balanced overall. And Immersion is at the Ears of the Beholder if that's how the saying goes lol. I'm assuming you're talking about soundstage, but person to person you'll hear different comments about soundstage when it comes to IEMs.

Tangzu Waner SE is pretty flat/neutral-ish. The let down for it, I would say, would be its build quality. Other notable options would be the Simgot EW100 and the Truthear Gate. Some consider both to be on the brighter side though compared to the Waner SEs. Wait, forget everything that I just said. Get the Tanchjim Bunny. Have a great day.

Studio Edition was made to be more reference so no big punch.

A common problem with many high-end IEMs, they have almost fully sealed design - better sound isolation, and possibly allows them to have better control of acoustics/resonances, but ultimately makes most of those high-end IEMs unusable for long-term listening sessions. The best sounding IEM under 1300$ I found after listening to dozens of them is 7th Acoustic Supernova and it has the same pressure issue. Better for your ears and hearing to avoid these IEMs entirely. Also, keep in mind that all these expensive IEMs do not provide much of improvement sound-wise over these 2 IEMs that are as close to reference sound as I could find: Wan'er Studio Edition (only WHITE one) or Moondrop Starfield (unfortunately no longer produced, so hard to find). Both of these do not have any "pressure" issue. But if you still want to use the tight-sealed ones, then the only workaround I found is as follows: when you insert the IEM into your ear canal, push the silicone ear tip against one of the ear canal walls, for example push it downwards, so that upper part of the silicone tip does not seal the ear canal and still allows some air to go through while you insert the IEM. You try to insert the IEM this way as deep as possible, deeper than you would usually/comfortably put them in, when you can't insert it any deeper then stop pushing the silicone tip towards the wall, so it unfolds and seals the ear canal. You will feel slight pressure on ear drum. After that you just slightly pull the IEMs from you ears, reducing the pressure, while still keeping them in your ear and sealed. You might do it couple of times until you get to the optimal pressure, cause its hard to get it right on the first try.

Just buy Tangzu Wan'er Studio Edition. If you mostly use IEMs in low-noise environments, then it could your end game. If not - at least you will have a reference IEM with the most correct sound to compare other IEMs with it.

For its price wan'er studio edition is very impressive for what it does.

Wan'er studio edition is pretty goated. Bought them recently. They're awesome. Very accurate with voices/vocals/singers/singing/

I bought the Tangzu Wan'er Studio Edition about 4 days ago and honestly that thing is awesome. If I had to realistically choose a next step up above that...I'd say..Zigaat Lush (with moondrop spring eartips). I totally get what you're saying though. The Wan'er Studio I personally actually ranked higher than Hexa, ER2xr and IE200 for enjoyability. It sounds better than those 3 on vocals. It's quite an amazing IEM for only $20. This was my video review of the Wan'er Studio Edition. So you can definitely tell I was shocked at how good they were: https://youtu.be/ke0K9piq3jo

Kima 2 isn’t redundant at all — it sounds nothing like anything on that list. It’s probably the most unique IEM I own, and even now I can’t fully explain it because it doesn’t sound a damn thing like its graph. (looks like it'd be identical to Tanchjim Origin but is actually warm like Dusk and Tea Pros) Wan’er Studio Edition is also its own unique thing.

Answering this in my terms: – If you want a V-shape, get the SG2. – If you want something neutral, get the Studio Edition. – If you care about vocals or accuracy, the Studio Edition is the clear pick. To illustrate: grab a few IEMs, put them on, and monitor yourself through a neutral mic like an NT1. Each one will color your voice differently. The Studio Edition gives you an accurate, “this is actually my voice” result. The SG2, by contrast, makes your voice (on the same mic) sound like a cheap Blue Snowball-tier mic. It's worse with vocals. Edit: Make sure you’re buying the *Studio Edition* specifically. If Ctrl+F doesn’t find that wording on the product page, it’s the wrong version. Edit: I used the white eartips included with the Studio Edition.

It sounds like what you're after is a reference IEM, and not something for actually making music sound "better". In which case, the Tangzu Wan'er STUDIO EDITION (specifically that version) is a neutral tuning that will play exactly what the audio is without any EQ tuning And then you could grab something like the Kiwi Ear Cadenza (my personal favorite IEM under $50), or Juzear Defiant or Awful Explorer (my favorite IEM I own, ~120) if you wanted something with a wider soundstage and better instrument separation, and for a slightly more exciting tuning for actually enjoying to your music vs when you're referencing with the Wan'er SE's. Reference tuning and tunings for music are polar opposites in terms of sound signatures, and it would be difficult to do meticulous tuning with a "music" IEM imo. The Wan'ers are also cheap (not in quality by any means, Chifi "budget" IEMs are very high performing compared to what you would get for the same money 6-7 years ago) If I were in your shoes, I'd get the Kiwi Ear Cadenza and the Wan'er SE.

Yeah I'm having a hard time finding the SE's on amazon (I assume USA, I'm in Canada so swapped sites) I had heard some people say the Truthear Hexas are slightly "boring" which may make them suitable as both a reference IEM and for your music. They are very highly rated, so they're not actually a "boring" IEM, they're just a bit more neutral than other popular IEMs

I did the exact same thing after buying the ND Planet, I bought the Wan'er SG Studio Edition just to see if most budget iems are supposed to sound similar but the Wan'er sounds so much better to me. idk if I got a bad pair of ND Planet iems, but it seems accurate to the frequency response graph when I listen to music through the ND Planets.

Tangzu Waner studio edition sounds better than chu II. But chuII has better build quality.

I have the studio edition version of waner and they are phenomenal for the price range. No other iems beat them in that price or even +10-20 dollar range of those.

I think they are ok, but in my opinion there are cheaper options that could give you the same, if not a better performance. I would choose Tangzu Wan'er SG Studio Edition or KBear KB01 and EQ them, instead of Kefine Klean