ThieAudio - Origin

Agreed! Got the Origin a few days ago and they are fun, bass-oriented but still detailed sound. Never heard the Mega5est, I’ve read great reviews on them, but cannot compare how good Origin is vs M5E. Origin has big shells, very big.

I Third this. The Origins has excellent bass/tuning if you're like me and don't like overly warm bassy tunings. The Punch is also good for the price but has thinner mids than the origin which was a deal breaker for me.

I found the Thieaudio Origins mindblowing, and I also found my VE 10s mind-blowing. I did not find the noble Ragnars or the UM multiverse mentors mindblowing. What illustrates here is not the price, but rather what you like that will determine what is mindblowing, as such an experience will require an iem that does what you like exceptionally well. It just does help that expensive iems tend to be able to fulfill this requirement. As for a more direct answer, hard to say. Around the 1000 range is when things get really competitive, and around the >4k range is when it gets really impressive as these iems are very good at almost everything

Go for flipears Legion\~Aegis , thieaudio origin is more balance than legion. all 3 is very good with big soundstage, incredible bass and clarity. Plus they sound better than many flagship IEMs.

Hello fellow bass-head :) Highly recommend the Thieaudio Origin for a combination of satisfying bass/sub-bass and slam/thump (for an IEM) AND overall strong technicalities & detail. PS. I have no idea what a 21"x12 system would sound/feel like... what is that on the richter scale? lol. I only have a SVS SB-3000 (13") and that already rattles my living room.

Happy it helped! I think pro gamers double up to block out crowd noise haha. I'm just thinking of CS pros, so my knowledge on that is limited. >Drivers, what are the pros and cons of single, dual, hybrid, etc.? I'll give the **pros** for each first. So the most common driver for IEMs out there is the balanced armature (BA) driver. It was the first major alternative to dynamic driver (DD), and allowed makers to put multiple drivers into a small form factor like the IEM. Each driver than concentrate on a specific frequency range instead, given the manufactured cared enough to put enough crossovers and tune them. Otherwise you have a bunch of drivers doing the exact same thing, defeating the purpose of having a multi-driver setup. These days it's hard to find an IEM without BA involved. Hybrids typically refer to a combination of BA and DD. One *seemingly* weakness of the BA design is its bass. Actual "weakness" is interesting and not an actual auditory weakness: [/u/oratory1990 made a great post about it](https://www.reddit.com/r/oratory1990/comments/nk243a/comment/gzdlw80/). DD is far more forgiving, so you can have it handle the bass while the BAs handle the rest. Tribrids are usually DD, BA, and electrostatic (EST) drivers. EST on paper is very accurate which translates to great detail retrieval. DD for bass, BA for mids, and EST for highs. More recently we have quadbrids. Uncommon so multiple flavors. Usually begins with the tribrid, then adds bone conduction (BC), piezo (PZT), etc. All have their quirks in terms of sound, but I wonder if that's inherent to the drivers themselves or not. The outlier is planar magnetic drivers. On paper planars are extremely fast, can reproduce the entire spectrum very well. These days they're typically packaged in tribrid and quadbrid flavors. Of course there are other driver combos, but these are the most common. Now, the **cons** of each. In terms of sound? Nothing. There are fantastic IEMs for every driver configuration out there. 64Audio U12T is all-BA, Sony IER-Z1R is a hybrid, ThieAudio Monarch Mk. II is a tribrid, and ThieAudio Origin is a quadbrid. I think it has less to do with what kind of drivers and more to do with how the manufacture designed/tuned it. Also it depends on your preference of sound. In terms of fit? All BA tend to have few fit issues because the drivers are tiny. Hybrid/tribrid/quadbrids can have fitment issues due to the large DD--some of the most uncomfortable IEMs feature the DD (IER-Z1R, Monarch Series, etc.) Planars are large, too. Single DD IEMs tend not to have fitment issues, either. Price is an issue. EST and planar drivers are more expensive, and it reflects in the price. **Original post category examples:** Not a comprehensive list, just rattling off the top of my head. - neutral tuning: Etymotic ER4XR/ER4SR, Hidition NT6 - mild-V/U+V/U tuning: Sony IER-Z1R, ThieAudio Monarch Mk. III, Symphonium Crimson, UM MEST Mk. II - bassheads: Sony IER-Z1R, FatFreq Maestro SE, FatFreq Grand Maestro - trebleheads: Letshuoer S12 (I think people don't like "spicy" sounds...)

For gaming Tanchjim kara ,i have dunu Davinci, mega5est , origin , dusk , kinera skuld , and many more. best staging and immersive feeling for gaming is tanchjim kara. But If i want to listen music and play games i would chose Mega5est.

Yup! and origins are a downgrade from the empire ear tritons

I have both endgame TWS (Technics AZ100) & IEM (THIEAUDIO ORIGIN). Here's a detailed explanation on why I find my IEMs to be far superior than TWS especially for music and gaming: - Wider soundstage. more separation between each sounds and instruments. They sound better and have better soundstage than the beyerdynamics dt990 pro open headphones I used to main. It's a blast to listen to music with them as I can hear every single instrument/sound without them being mushed together. - The origin are one of the best for directional audio in gaming to pinpoint enemy location and footsteps + zero audio latency. Better immersion as well. I've tried the technics az100 tws for gaming and it's horrible in comparison, makes everything too flat and impossible to pinpoint precisely sounds. Latency is also not optimal on tws for competitive gaming. - The Thieaudio origin have a very rich and well defined bass. I don't even consider myself to be a basshead. Instead of "loud" bass I'd define them more like having depth, definition, detail. There's more punch and presence in each sound, like the feeling you get in your guts when you can feel the sounds at a concert. So it's not only for 808s but also for instruments like bass guitar etc. There's little details you wouldn't be able to hear in tws or regular headphones. No matter how much you boost the bass on the technics, it won't even come close and just sound worse and mushed. The origin on the other hand has "high quality defined bass" instead of an artificial "bass boost". Kinda like having subwoofers. - Better fit, consistent sound. The iems have a more secure fit because of the cable and how they're designed to sit on your ear so you don't have to adjust them. Whereas on the technics, a slight shift in the fit can drastically change the sound so you have to readjust them. HOWEVER you have to consider the price difference. The Origin IEMs are almost 3x the price of the Technics AZ100 TWS. So when it comes to performance per $ there's definitely diminishing returns. The main reason I got the Origin is because I wanted the best for gaming (able to pinpoint enemies) while having a really good soundstage and bass for music listening and immersion all in one package. When it comes to peripherals I don't go cheap because they're things I use for many hours everyday so I want the best experience I can have. I'm very satisfied with my iems and don't think I'll ever change them any time soon as I consider them endgame for my needs I still find the az100 to be the best tws rn, they sound really good and use them everyday outside and often even when on PC just for watching YouTube, Twitch or movies. The one pro they have over the Origin is that they're wireless so I'm able to move freely without having to unplug or take them off. I also want to add that not all IEMs are equal, so what I said only applies to my setup.

Fatfreq Scarlet or fatfraq deuce. I have Gemini 2s as well. Ive listeneto the scarlet which has crazy deep 4 12s type bass. I have the deuces and its more balanced still a lot of bass but a good balance of mids and highs, like 2 10s. Ive heard that in the higher end spectrum to look at the ThieAudio Origin or the Dita Audio Mecha. Both are in $800 range but supposed to excellent bass.

Origin would be the most desirable on that list. I would say the scarlet has more bass but more isn't necessarily better. Origin would be an overall better iem as it's more of an open stage and quality of bass more than just non stop thumping. You could always just get a deuce at $300 and that would curb most of your bass needs. I've yet to tune the Geminis to the max yet, as soon as I found the best eq for it, I just left it there. I haven't heard the maestros yet so can't comment on that.

I think the Tea Pros are the best all around iem with emphasis on the bass. Aren't many in that price range that I would consider better. Most of what everyone is suggesting are more neutral and vocal iems. Won't make me stop and say wow. Up from the Tea Pros, i'd be looking at the ThieAudio Origin or the Flipears Legion. Leading to the Tea Pros, I would have the ThieAudio Hype 4 and fhe Dunu Davinciis.

I'm new to iem. Mainly using it for gaming but love listening to music with them especially the Thieaudio Origin. Can't wait for the Thieaudio Valhalla with 19 drivers each side. I hope it's good and not so expsensive, maybe that will be my 3rd iem.

Yup really enjoyed it too. Definitely worth it.

I'm not an audiophile. It's sound good for its price. But i still like Thieaudio Origin more. I tend to listen for more hours on it.

Top is good. But overall origin is better in music and gaming for me. I'm no expert but i just prefer Origin.

Jay's Estrella. Kidding. Try the Origin honestly love it if you can handle the large size and fit.

This 💯I had to return them bc of their size.

Def recommend the origin. It is a good set for bass. It was a bit too big for my ears and had to get rid of them. Other than the fit they were awesome.

Enjoy what you have. I've listened to my fair share of iems. I just returned the thieaudio origin due to size and fit issues. I just got the thieaudio divinity v16 to try an all BA iem again. With a few mins of listening these things have a big stage and great imaging. My other iem isthe thieaudio Oracle mk3

I can only speak from my experience. I have three Thieaudio sets (hype 10, Oracle iii, origin), and they’ve been great so far. If you’re in the US, buy from a reputable store (headphones.com or bloom) with good service/warranties

Just got the origins! Put a smile on my face! The bass can sometimes just pop in your ears. Like the commenter said, the fit can be an issue. Surprisingly it fits me alright and I have small ears, but unfortunately it just depends. Tip rolling would really help.

After auditioning the Thieaudio origin next to the monarch II and III, I definitely want this type of bone conduction implementation for my next iem. The soundstage seems out of this world with the origin.

Well all of those 3 are amazing, detail resolution I would say the III, but Soundstage, separation, the origin completely got me. It's like seating in front of an orchestra in a concert hall with the sound coming from everywhere.

I have tried the mest mkII and the origin ( been lucky living in Tokyo close to the most amazing earphones so in Tokyo ) and I wouldn't pay 2 times more for the mest now the origin came out. Almost the same SQ with the same emphasis on the low and highs. Esthetically wise the mest feels less Chi-fi ish, but that's all subjective to people.

If you like hiphop and R&B, then Origin for sure

The Origin sounds amazing! It’s so fun but it is quite big so not as practical for long listening sessions.

I already have Thie Audio Origin, but the scarlet is tempting me 😩

The Ziigaat Estrella with Shortbus Audio YouTube reviews tape mod. For me it competes with some of the best endgame IEMs that I own including the MEST mk2, Dunu Glacier, Thieaudio Origin, and Canpur CP622B.

I have a Kiwi ears Punch on the way to compare against my Thieaudio Origins. I love the sound of the orgins but the fit is the only issue.

I think, the Origin will have the upper hand via the Bone conduction driver so we will see.

The origin? To me it wasnt very boomy.

You gona hit an bracket ceiling and then pretty much start testing arounf iems. If you like it or find an audiable or technical difference. You sell your old one. I call it End Game refinement. Where you start realizing the diminishing returns on things. Bought my Thieaudio Origin beginning of april. Now trying to sell or trade it off. Kiwi ears punch just came in also. So ill be listening to those tonight.

Thieaudio Origin is what you're looking for. Kinda pricey for a blind buy, but it fits the bill exactly.

Fellow Origin owner here.... it is truly special. My best set for just pure enjoyment.

They're on the large side, but more comfortable than the CCA Hydro. I think they're built well for a full resin IEM.

I have the Origin and the Odyssey. The Odyssey is AMAZING for the price. Nothing comes close. But the Origin is another level.

Fatfreq Maestro Mini might fit the bill if you can find it for a good price. The Deuce is fantastic, but the bass shelf cuts off lower (trying to keep mids as clean as possible), so it's not as easy to recommend for general bass-head use. Thieaudio Origin is probably the end-game basshead set at the moment (without going into the $3-4k range). Tea Pro is EXCELLENT. I prefer it to the Davinci due to its higher perceived resolution and detail retrieval. It's more of an all-rounder+bass rather than true basshead set. EDIT: I wish I could say something about the Punch, but I've never heard it. Many have called it a "baby Oirign" which, if that's the case, it would match what you're asking for.

thieaudio origin, still using them

The Scarlet Mini sounds outright absurd. Even for bass heads it might bring too much bass. I'd recommend you go with the Origin which still has a ton of bass, but is more well rounded.

Both IEMs sound excellent. I am not a gamer; I am an audio enthusiast. The ThieAudio Origin has a grander sound, and its bass experience differs from that of the Xenns Top. Both IEMs are incredibly addictive to listen to.

I had similar feelings about the THIEAUDIO Origin. Instead of a ring, it seemed like a weird "brown" over warmed tone that seemed like mud covering all other frequencies. I am a Harman enjoyer so nice V is fine but it needs to be balanced.

Yeah, the pre-launch price was the right price, at $1000. The increase to $1600 felt arbitrary, and buried it underneath other brands' kilobuck offerings. Although I prefer the Origin to it now, it will likely stay in my rotation for a while.

Was the Monarch MKIII up until the release of the Origin, which is now my go-to for the price range -- I prefer the Origin's stock tuning, but the MKIII has more legs with EQ and is probably the more flexible set as an all rounder. The Origin falls into the same category as the Hype 4 did in my eyes, in that it punches above its price point. I prefer it to the LTD as well, and that's saying a lot as the LTD is a phenomenal set. Thieaudio knocked the Origin out of the park.

Scarlet mini by far. Love the bass. Ive only tried 6 iems so far : arete(returned but were fine), tea pro(returned too big for me), thieaudio origin(returned also too big), duece(returned not enough bass) 64 audio u4s(is my all arounder and used for gaming), and fatfreq scarlet mini(my favorite for music) Dac: currently using btr17 but plan on returning as I ordered a hiby r4. In the past I used a fio k3 for my open backs.

Well, I love my bass too and have had a few experiences trying to get great bass (but not muddy) and nothing comes even close to ThieAudio Origin. Sorry about the price though. Hype 4 and Tea Pro are nice for half the price but they cannot compete with Origin, even EQing them to Origin, it’s not the same unfortunately.

I don’t unfortunately. But one of the downsides of the Origins (maybe my only one) is the sheer size of them and comfort. If you have MMk3 and they don’t bother you then you’re safe, I think they are the sameish size/shape

If only headphones it's easy: Arya Organic > FiiO FT1 >>> Sennheiser HD6XX If IEMs count, it's a bit harder, I would say: ThieAudio Origin > Arya Organic = ThieAudio Hype 4 > Ziigaat Odyssey > FiiO FT1 > Aful Explorer > Simgot SuperMix4 > Sennheiser HD6XX

To that list I'll add ThieAudio Origin. I love my bass and I have never heard a better bass implementation than Origin. The shells are massive but the sound is incredible. I haven't heard any of the ones you mentioned though. Kiwi Ears x HBB Punch might be a good option as well, and half the price of the Origin.

Depends on what you are after and what are your preferences. For me I always enjoyed IEMs more than headphones and while I do have HD6XX and Arya Organic I tend to use my IEMs more, even cheaper ones like Hype4. The IEMs that gave me that wow factor first were the Simgot EA1000. The Hype 4 gave me the same thing again for their tuning which is pretty perfect to my taste. I will say that the most impactful/wow factor moments for me in audio (recently) were the Bass in ThieAudio Origin and the first impressions of the Ananda Nano (that soundstage, airy feeling, detailed). The jump to the Arya Organic was definitely not that wowing

Then just go for the Kiwi x HBB Punch. Is a chunky iem but nothing trust me nothing will literally hit u that hard not even Canelo Alvarez hahahahaha. The second best but more expensive is the Thieaudio Origin with less bass.

Yeah, I'm with you on the audition – at that price point, it's all about the tuning, not the technical performance. Most IEMs in that range are really really good. But price-wise, I'd bump it up to 1k. IEMs from $500-$850 are a bit lacking compared to the higher-end ones, based on comparing the Oracle and Origin to the MK2-3 and LTD. Consider the Grand Maestro. IMO the GM is the benchmark, is that IEM the others compare too and it doesn't lose too much value like some other.

nice, absolutely LOVE the Origin. its become my top IEM after only owning it for about 3 weeks.

I just bought the Thieaudio Origins last week and absolutely love them. They have a completely full range bass feel and the bone conduction adds a little something to it that I have a hard time explaining. I can definitely tell it’s there as it feels different than my other IEMs. The others in my collection are Aful Performer 5+2, Truthear Zero Red, Oriveti Lowmaster, Moondrop Variations, Sennhesier IE200. For bassy music the Thieaudio is my go to.

Demoed Thieaudio Origin, Monarch Mk3, and Tangzu Bajie at my local store. I somehow like Bajie the most among the 3 so that is what I got. It’s not a kilobuck but can definitely compete with other choices in the price range.

Second this. Recently got the Origins and they have some deep/grand/rumbling bass that doesn't completely dominate everything else. Going great with the hip hop/edm/rock I listen to. Keen to see where this thread goes though. Always looking for alteratives ;)

The best IEM in the world is ORIGIN by theiaudio all the rest are a waste of money

I was at Axpona yesterday, listened to a lot of iem’s, and I was kind of amazed at how much everything mostly sounded the same. I tried every item from Thieaudio and while I had favorites, I would be completely happy with the hype 4, with the Divinity 14 and Origin being my favorite, but it was shockingly close. Same with 64 audio, liked all of their offerings favoring the u18t, followed buy the velour and u4s. At the Bloom audio table, they had almost everything to try. Crazy how much sounded the same. At the campfire table, I a/b’d the supermoon and astrolith, with the latter being better, but not $2k better. Diminishing returns really kick in super fast in this hobby.

Love the Origin , also my Hype 4.

The Monarch MKII is still by far my favourite Thieaudio IEM and it's not not even close. Even after listening to the Prestiges, Valhalla, V16, origin, hypes and oracles, I still put the MkII right at the top above all of them. It's personal preference which monarch you like more but for me, it's MKII >>> MKIII anyday