ZiiGaat - Cincotres

I'm probably in the minority here, but I have no complaints about a company releasing a ton of options with branded Knowles or Sonion BAs instead of bellsing crap. People have no idea the price difference in branded BAs is sometimes an increase of 10X over drivers companies like Aful use. If you are at all familiar with graphs and how an IEM diverges from JM-1 (neutral), plus the different properties of certain driver types (Dynamic vs. BA vs. Planar etc) you can usually guess 90% of what it sounds like. I like options. My only complaint is their shell shape creates a pressure point on the top/back of my ear. Ziigaat's shells are the only ones I've ever had a problem with. CHANGE UP THE SHELL SHAPE GUYS.

I had a bad experience with the Ziigaat Cincotres and won't be purchasing another Ziigaat unit. If they'd like to send me one for review, I'm willing to do that. But I refuse to give them any more of my money.

I'm the opposite on all of your choices. I love the DaVinci, and returned the Tea Pros. The Tea Pros BA timbre and hot treble (caused my ears to ring) just didn't cut the mustard. In comparison, the DaVinci was VERY natural in the mids, has pleasant treble, and loads of acceptable, non-monotonous bass. The Cincotres was another return for me. Awful unfixable mids, fizzy treble, and lies upon lies about "studio reference tuning", despite the bass being the best thing about it after EQing 80Hz down a dB or two. That really brings the subjectivity of all of this to the forefront, I guess.

Ya there is amazing stuff in the 200 to 300 dollar space, really, like the latest run of Ziigaat stuff, Odyssee comes to mind.. And Doscinco.. There is also the Dunu Davinci.. Juzear 61t..we are having our little brains blown out the ear holes at this point. Going up further in price, the tuning seems to get very specific and unique. You really need to know very well what you want. I think most people could stop at something like Odyssee

there are 5-10 great IEMs in 230-530 price range which I wouldn't say one of them is better than the others, rly depends on your tuning preference, actual difference to these would be 800+ IEMs, those Ziigaats fall behind a bit in soundstage compared to Volume S, Tea Pro, maybe not Variations but they are all still good just there are better ones for that

Right now the cincotres. But who knows when I’ll get the itch again lol.

Part of me thinks: *You’ll have fun with almost anything you pick, just choose one and enjoy the music.* This is actually the truth. 5+2, volume S, 12 different ziigaats, hype 4 mk1/2, etc, etc, they all rock and you will be happy unless you can back to back them and pick them apart otherwise 99 percent wouldn't be able to find any real flaws, not to mention the 20 planers I didn't include.

ZiiGaat and AFUL have more of the unique tuning approach and are the Chinese brands that I liked the most on my journey so far (less treble than typical Harman and interesting eargain handling for ZiiGaats, characteristic upper-mid plateau for AFUL)

I can really recommend the Ziigaat Cincotres. Nice emphasis on the kick drum and bass guitar. I also think that they are relatively relaxed to listen to, the highs are not too emphasized. Longer listening sessions with badly mixed metal are also possible. I mostly listen to European power metal, thrash metal and sometimes black metal or heavy metal. By the way, I also have the Ikko OH10. I like a V shaped soundprofile, but admittedly they are very energetic and anything but relaxed

ZiiGaat Cincotres Honestly I just like the subtleness. Not a lot of color and doesn't draw attention. Specs say they should be a good unit and if I can get it understated, that's even more of a bonus.

I haven't heard it. I have the Cincotres, which is excellent if you like the tuning. I can see it being somewhat controversial since midbass is above subbass. But the mids are as clean as possible given that style of bass. Very solid for rock and roll. I wouldn't pick it out as my favorite for electronica.