ZiiGaat - Cincotres

I had a bad experience with the Ziigaat Cincotres and won't be purchasing another Ziigaat unit. If they'd like to send me one for review, I'm willing to do that. But I refuse to give them any more of my money.

I'm the opposite on all of your choices. I love the DaVinci, and returned the Tea Pros. The Tea Pros BA timbre and hot treble (caused my ears to ring) just didn't cut the mustard. In comparison, the DaVinci was VERY natural in the mids, has pleasant treble, and loads of acceptable, non-monotonous bass. The Cincotres was another return for me. Awful unfixable mids, fizzy treble, and lies upon lies about "studio reference tuning", despite the bass being the best thing about it after EQing 80Hz down a dB or two. That really brings the subjectivity of all of this to the forefront, I guess.

Right now the cincotres. But who knows when I’ll get the itch again lol.

I can really recommend the Ziigaat Cincotres. Nice emphasis on the kick drum and bass guitar. I also think that they are relatively relaxed to listen to, the highs are not too emphasized. Longer listening sessions with badly mixed metal are also possible. I mostly listen to European power metal, thrash metal and sometimes black metal or heavy metal. By the way, I also have the Ikko OH10. I like a V shaped soundprofile, but admittedly they are very energetic and anything but relaxed

ZiiGaat Cincotres Honestly I just like the subtleness. Not a lot of color and doesn't draw attention. Specs say they should be a good unit and if I can get it understated, that's even more of a bonus.

I haven't heard it. I have the Cincotres, which is excellent if you like the tuning. I can see it being somewhat controversial since midbass is above subbass. But the mids are as clean as possible given that style of bass. Very solid for rock and roll. I wouldn't pick it out as my favorite for electronica.

last year I spent over $2,500.00 on IEMs, tips, and dongles. in chronological order: Pula PA02s B tier, an all rounder, excellent. Simgot EM6L B+ tier, just sounded great! A little too spicy. Ziigaat Doscinco, and Cinoctres. The Doscincos are bass boosted all rounders both are A tier, The Cincotres are more neutral and suppose to be more monitor like and dry. they are A tier also, just a little different than that Doscincos. I bought Thieaudio Hype 4's next. They have just as good of bass as the Doscincos, with better mids, and some airy, slightly sizzling treble. I rank them A+ because they are just about perfect all rounders. If you A, B with the Ziigaats you can hear that they just are better sounding, but like only 5%. The Hype 4s are not cheap, I bought a pair for a good friend of mine, and she loved them and bought a pair for her niece! A+ Then I got some Hisenior Mega5-ESTs and they are the best IEMs, or headphones I have ever heard! I bought them after reading tons of reviews and watching this review on YT: [https://youtu.be/vWWofORMPZU?si=cNgIrUOHXbOWQrFE](https://youtu.be/vWWofORMPZU?si=cNgIrUOHXbOWQrFE) MEGA5ESTs are reference level legendary IEMs now, and they influenced the whole industry as they sound better than many over $1k IEMs they are S tier I use Divinus Velvet big bore tips, and Ducbloke's PEQ tuning. they are music Heaven, fit good, not chunky at all, and you can listen for hours with out getting tired, or I can. finally I got the MEGA5-EST Bass+ edition. Same, but not as good to my ears A- tier Xiaoliang Qian Tchaikovsky's Piano Concerto No. 1 thanks for asking. The Mega5's some say are boring because they are a quite natural and neutral sounding. My experience the bass is quite good, the mids are just about perfect, and the treble is airy, sparkle, fantastic! The sound stage is holographic. Over all I praise these to the moon, they are magnificient. if you want a alternate in this type of sound "Meta" or JM-1 tilted the Nice HCK Rockies are almost and exact clone of this same type of tuning. You don't need and PEQ, or even use an EQ if you don't want to. This tuning has been so successful it is being done with other lesser, and premium IEMs (over $1k) Recently Aful came out with their best IEM ever, Thieaudio has the Monarch MKIV, and FiiO's FX15 with eight EST drivers was released! I am looking at my endgame. Good chance it will be one of these sets. Also the older UM Mest MKII is of great interest to me.

I got the Cincotres and ever since I've been pretty wary of what came out of ZiiiGaat. Cincotres was hyped and to me its dynamics were bad- percussion sounded flat, bass lacked depth, treble sounded off.

I'm probably in the minority here, but I have no complaints about a company releasing a ton of options with branded Knowles or Sonion BAs instead of bellsing crap. People have no idea the price difference in branded BAs is sometimes an increase of 10X over drivers companies like Aful use. If you are at all familiar with graphs and how an IEM diverges from JM-1 (neutral), plus the different properties of certain driver types (Dynamic vs. BA vs. Planar etc) you can usually guess 90% of what it sounds like. I like options. My only complaint is their shell shape creates a pressure point on the top/back of my ear. Ziigaat's shells are the only ones I've ever had a problem with. CHANGE UP THE SHELL SHAPE GUYS.

Ya there is amazing stuff in the 200 to 300 dollar space, really, like the latest run of Ziigaat stuff, Odyssee comes to mind.. And Doscinco.. There is also the Dunu Davinci.. Juzear 61t..we are having our little brains blown out the ear holes at this point. Going up further in price, the tuning seems to get very specific and unique. You really need to know very well what you want. I think most people could stop at something like Odyssee

there are 5-10 great IEMs in 230-530 price range which I wouldn't say one of them is better than the others, rly depends on your tuning preference, actual difference to these would be 800+ IEMs, those Ziigaats fall behind a bit in soundstage compared to Volume S, Tea Pro, maybe not Variations but they are all still good just there are better ones for that

Funny I come across this post as I'm on my way home from an audiophile store after trying their entire price range of IEMs, as well as their expensive DACs and DAPs. Like from $20 IEMs all the way to a $4000 Forte Ears Macbeth they had. Here's what I concluded as a non-audiophile just gaining interest in this hobby. Diminishing returns for IEMs kicks in hard after $300. Sweet spot seems to be around $200-$250. I really liked the Moondrop Kato and a lot of the Ziigaat IEMs they had. Fit and sound quality felt much better than the Zero Reds I currently have. I feel like once you go above into the upper hundreds into thousands USD range it's more personal preference tbh. Favourite one I tried today was a Campfire Audio Clara. With DACs I felt that as long as it could sufficiently power the IEM, it really didn't make a noticeable difference. Couldn't notice a real difference between my JM6 Pro dongle and their $200 ifi DACs, even on the expensive IEMs. And the Apple dongle is pretty bad. It couldn't drive most of the IEMs I tried. Even the ones it could drive they didn't sound good. Just use a JM6 Pro it's even cheaper than the Apple dongle (at least it is in my country). I did notice a quality difference with DAPs though only with the expensive IEMs. It sounded kind of cleaner but honestly not too big from my perspective. For most people you could probably just go up to around the $200-$300 range with an IEM that fits you comfortably with a preferable sound signature, and get an entry level DAC-AMP dongle and just leave and save the rest of your wallet.

I was in a similar boat as OP and bought the tea pros, ziigaats and et142s. After lots of comparison the et142s were the clear winner and surprisingly the cheapest of the three. They’ve been my daily driver ever since and have never felt the need for anything better. Frankly I have a hard time imagining how they could be improved on. Very, very pleased with my simgot et142s. They are endgame for me for now.