Avocado - Green Mattress Firm (Tight-Top)

Well, researching mattresses online is like diving into a black hole of conflicting opinions. Lol! For what it’s worth, I’ve had this one mattress ([https://www.bestmatt.com/product-category/mattresses/avocado/](https://www.bestmatt.com/product-category/mattresses/avocado/)) for about two years now, and I actually really like it. It’s firm but still comfortable, and the natural materials were a big plus for me since I didn’t want anything full of chemical smells. Took a couple weeks to break in, but after that it’s been great.

So many threads are asking: - Why do mattresses feel so different? - Why aren't mattresses lasting as long? I always answer: ["Tufting"](https://old.reddit.com/r/Mattress/comments/1o52ihl/how_come_mattresses_are_not_made_the_same_anymore/nj8lumh/) Someone recently asked me if anyone still makes mattresses that way. I was surprised by the question. I'm not an expert. [I know of a few](https://old.reddit.com/r/Mattress/comments/1o52ihl/how_come_mattresses_are_not_made_the_same_anymore/njg2lji/). I imagine there are hundreds. If you know of a manufacturer who makes tufted mattresses or at least one of their offerings is tufted, please say so. I would like to try to keep a list now since I guess some people don't realize this is an option? **Update**: I appreciate everyone helping... *************** These are just a few. I'll add to it. I just don't know about them all. (Edit - When I have more time I will go through and order this list from $ to $$$$. For comparison, I'll do queen size, least expensive tufted model for each manufacturer... knowing that many of these manufacturers make more than one type of tufted mattress.) - [Coyuchi Natural REM](https://www.coyuchi.com/products/the-natural-rem-mattress?variant=50239258460452) - $2,000 for a Queen. I doubt they are made in Pt. Reyes but that's their physical address. Shipped bed in a box style. - [Harvest Green Original](https://www.harvestgreenmattress.com/collections/organic-fiberglass-free-mattresses/products/harvest-green-original-mattress?variant=30393323880484) > $1,800 for a Queen. Chicago, IL but sold at a lot of furniture stores throughout the USA. Not sure if they do bed-in-a-box type shipping. - My Green Mattress: [Natural Escape Organic Mattress](https://www.mygreenmattress.com/product/natural-escape/) > $1,524 for a Queen. Lagrange, IL but they do Bed-in-a-box type shipping. - [Sealy Naturals](https://www.sealy.com/mattresses/sealy-naturals-hybrid/v/773/) > $2,699 for a Queen. Sold at places like Mattress Firm, Living Spaces, Sit n Sleep, etc. - Some models of Custom Comfort - Avocado - [Avocado Green Firm](https://www.avocadogreenmattress.com/products/green-natural-organic-mattress?variant=42732672549014) > $1,800 for a firm and it goes up from there. All their mattresses are tufted and most are shipped bed-in-a-box style. Fullerton, CA - [Saatva Latex Hybrid](https://www.saatva.com/mattresses/saatva-latex-hybrid) > $2,550. They don't bed-in-a-box ship. They have stores that deliver. Mattresses are made at many different factories who contract to make the mattresses to Saatva's specifications. Also their HD Mattress is tufted. - [Capitol Bedding out of Lansing Michigan](https://capitolbedding.com/craftsmanship-and-materials/) > No prices on the web site. I would probably be interested in the Tranquility. All their mattresses have silica fire barriers which I think is another name for fiberglass. - Wool Room - [Classic Wooly Mattress](https://www.thewoolroom.com/en-us/products/classic-wooly-mattress?variant=54397836525953) > $1,600 for a Queen. Prices go up from there. All tufted. All shipped bed-in-a-box style. Made in Chicago? - [Gardner Mattress](https://www.gardnermattress.com/contact-us/delivery/) > [Organic Ultra Luxe](https://www.gardnermattress.com/product/organic-ultra-luxe-mattress/) seems to be the least expensive and it is "starting at $3,400." I'm guessing that means the Queen is around $4,000 > All styles but one are hand tufted. Delivery available to Maine, New York and Massachusetts - Hemingway - [Havanah Pillow Top Mattress](https://hemingwaymattress.com/products/havanah-pillow-top-mattress-by-hemingway?variant=49034212868381) > $3,525 for a Queen. There are less expensive tufted options but not by much. These are sold at furniture stores in Southern California, Florida and Eastern Seaboard. > Google is telling me these mattresses are made in New Jersey by Mattress Development Corp who probably makes mattresses to specification for a lot of companies? Not sure. - Aireloom - [Coronata](https://aireloom.com/product/coronata-euro-top-firm/) > $3,700 for a Queen and I think this is their least expensive. They seem to have over 20 models. All tufted. > These are not bed in a box mattresses. You can buy them at Macy's, Mattress Central, Ortho, Mattress Central, a lot of places. Their address is Rancho Cucamonga in California. I don't know if their mattresses are made there. Same company owns/makes Kluft mattresses. > [Here is a youtube video of Spencer deconstructing a tufted Aireloom mattress](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjLzXpON76o&t=8s). There are about three places in the video where Spencer talks about tufting and why it's a good thing for some buyers. He doesn't say you must have it. But he explains why it has a certain feel and what's good about it. - Maybe one model of King Koil (I'll try to find it but in general, almost all of their mattresses are not tufted.) - Stearns and Foster - [Reserve (their only tufted line.)](https://www.stearnsandfoster.com/mattresses/reserve-collection/v/485/) > $4,200 for a Queen. Not a bed in a box. Sold at places like Mattress Firm - Kluft - [Macy's Hotel Natural Collection by King Koil](https://www.macys.com/shop/product/hotel-natural-collection-by-king-koil-violet-15-medium-euro-top-mattress-collection-exclusively-at-macys?ID=22982955) > $3,225 right now. There are many, many versions of this mattress. And the web site says they are all tufted. There are no prices on the web site so if you want one you have to really scour around for a seller, and hope the one you picked isn't out of your price range. Also, I think there is horse hair in the Bloomingdale's line. The other line seems to be if you have to ask you can't afford it? - [Paramount Sleep](https://www.paramountsleep.com/paramount/) - made on the East Coast. Sold at Bloomingdales Luxury - Not really affordable: - Royal Pedic: [All Cotton Mattress](https://royalpedic.com/products/royal-pedic-all-cotton-mattress/) > $9,262 for a Queen - Vispring - [Elite is their least expensive mattress](https://vispringla.com/pages/vispring-elite) > I found a retailer selling a Queen Elite (Vispring's least expensive mattress) for $4,900. These mattresses are made in the UK so I imagine some of the sticker price comes from overseas shipping or maybe tariffs? - [Shifman](https://shifmanmattresses.com/) - This is another mattress brand seemingly out of New Jersey. The mattresses are sold at department stores like Bloomingdales. There are also dozens of types of Shifmans. They have like six lines and then 5-10 beds within each line. I personally find the number of beds they offer ridiculous and can't imagine what is the difference between these 40 some odd mattresses they make. > [There is actually a Shifman Queen](https://www.bloomingdales.com/shop/product/shifman-willow-firm-low-profile-mattress-exclusive?ID=4571662) availab;e for 1,200 but it is mattress only and not tufted. You need a box spring with it. > [Heritage Grand](https://www.bloomingdales.com/shop/product/shifman-heritage-grand-extra-firm-mattress-exclusive?ID=5440040) is $4,000 for a Queen mattress only and it is the least expensive queen size Shifman tufted mattress I could find. > [Shifman Solace](https://shifmanmattresses.com/product/magnolia0967-8123/) - $7,480.00 - Savoir - Hastens - Mattsons - Nattiluxe - [Hypnos](https://www.hypnosbeds.com/us/mattresses) - made in UK and sold in a few places in the USA. Shipping probably prohibitive for most people? UK Only? - [Enchanted House Beds](https://enchantedhousebeds.com/mattress-makers/) in Devon - [John Ryan if you are in the UK](https://johnryanbydesign.co.uk/understanding-beds/mattress-tufting-explained/) - Winston if you are in the UK. I think Winston and Millbrook might be the same company? > Apparently Millbrook is similar to Vispring at a lower price point. ********* ps - For good reason, tufted mattresses are about $1,000 more than glued foam slab counterparts. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think a good rule of thumb is that an all synthetic bed in a box foam mattress will last 5-7 years tops. Latex bed in a box can last 10 years and up. TUFTED mattresses made of natural materials are going to give you close to 20 years.

Note that Avocado has two versions of firm. One is their standard avocado green mattress without any toppers. Just called "Firm." The other is in its own category for heavier sleepers called Extra Firm. I would not advise extra firm unless you've tried it out. > *designed specifically for big and tall sleepers, plus-size individuals, athletes, and those who prefer an ultra-firm sleep surface.*

We purchased Avocado based on the reviews by Consumer Reports. 4 years now and it still feels like new. We switched prematurely from a Casper due to hot flashes on synthetic materials. I swear by our mattress, it is more comfortable than high end hotel penthouse mattresses.

https://www.avocadogreenmattress.com/collections/mattresses/products/green-natural-organic-mattress We got the basic firm option since pillow tops on mattresses can be the first thing to sag on past mattresses. Couldn’t be happier.

The Avocado hybrid I had from Costo slept very cool. Maybe the higher end Green will too. Also, bedding is very important. You want everything to be breathable. My current setup is a Winkbed Plus, 1.5" merino wool topper, whisper organics quilted mattress cover, Sleep and Beyond Cotton Percale sheet set, sleep and beyond wool comforter, sleep and beyond percale duvet cover and sleep and beyond Mymerino comforter. It would probably sleep a bit cooler if I remove the whisper organics cover but I wanted some protection for the wool topper since it was pricy. I imagine that setup would sleep extremely cool on an avocado hybrid mattress. The windkbed doesn't exactly sleep warm but I think the avocado was a bit cooler.

I have a 6 year old avocado green hybrid with no sag. I purchased the firm which was felt like sleeping on a slab so added an AG topper

Wow so expensive to be breathing down. I have the Avocado Green Hybrid , Ca king firm. It’s supper firm , to firm so I purchased a topper. My experience with AG customer service is bad! They don’t take complains or concerns very well. In their head they are saving the earth with sustainability while most customers just want a healthier good night sleep. There is always small claims court.

Which MLily mattress did you like? My husband and I ended up really liking the PowerCool Firm when we tried it at Sleepare. It seems like the right compromise for both of us, ideal for a hot sleeper, and very low motion transfer. But I’d never even heard of the brand before. The return policy is terrible. It’s hard to find any real reviews. And something about the brand just feels “low budget” (for lack of a better word) despite the relatively high price. But the bed was very comfy while trying it out and we have limited time to go try every bed on the market. I actually preferred the Avocado green firm and my husband liked the medium but they were so bouncy in comparison and that will likely be a dealbreaker as every toss and turn will be felt by the other person. I also tried Saatva mattresses at their showroom in my area and liked the Saatva HD best, but it’s a different feel than the MLily (but closer to the Avocado). Part of me just wants to say screw it and buy the MLily and be done with it. But it’s hard to spend that much money on a brand that has no return policy (if purchased directly from MLily) or a very limited return/exchange policy if bought from Sleepare.

Great topic. Im 5'9" 140 lb and skinny hips. Not in love with my Avocado Green Firm with 2" medium Dunlop topper, but I havent had it 30 days yet.

Im thinking about going the layer by layer latex route. Im sort of miffed my Avacado is hav I need body indentation so soon. I thought it was a simple design of pocketed and zoned coils, with latex. Latex shouldnt sag. The coil system seemed to be well engineered. How is it leaving indentations? The wool layer?

Avocado owner here. We like the one with springs

Do you have any insight on the Avocado mattress from Costco. I tried the Avocado Green from sit n sleep and really liked it. However, I haven’t been able to try the Avocado Eco in any showroom. I’m a stomach sleeper and trying to transition to side sleeping.

I got the avocado firm mattress and it was bumby and had fabric that bunched on the top, did not seem sleep safe or correct so I sent it back. Ended up getting a naturepedic and it’s very firm.