Moonlight Elite

The Elite line is a great choice. Helix uses the best foams in the industry on this line and also includes their best coil system. On top of that, this line has a fully encased swappable comfort layer that you can change without having to change the whole mattress. You could try the moonlight or sunset as both are soft the only difference would be the order of the foams in the comfort layers to better support back vs side sleepers. Great mattress line in the Elite series...

Helix Elite series are great.

3Z brands out of Arizona make good mattresses for bed in a box options. The Helix Elite series is outstanding and can be had in all the different comfort feels. As well it has a fully encased comfort layer under the removable cover that can be swapped out without replacing the whole mattress. Has the standard 15 year warranty and then a prorated limited lifetime warranty. It is available to try at local brick and mortar stores, you just have to find them. I have three within a one hour drive that all had the luxe and elite series mattresses on the floor. They are a bit more expensive than some of the other brands made by the same company and it's due to the superior foams (higher density). If I was to buy a 3Z brands mattress it would probably be the Helix Elite.

Why have you not contacted Helix directly! You can swap that encased comfort layer under the zipper (Best Part of Elite Series!). Ask them to send you a "Twilight" comfort layer. The Helix Elite use some of the densest foams around so longevity should be good.

The local retailers that carry helix here (not the big stores but the smaller ones) will give you the sleep trial but under their conditions. For instance one I visited yesterday will allow you to exchange the mattress for anything in the store. Also inventory to "try" is limited. He had two luxes, and one elite. I am driving 2 hours today just so I can lay on a Helix Twilight Elite, because all the other one had was a Midnight Elite. As for the big brands, they are still valid. Sealy Pro and Elite lines have their best coil support system and are good...all the comfort options as well. The Sealy Elite Firm Quilt Top is still in my top 5. I tried the Casper's and Nectars and eliminated them right away. Also eliminated Tempur right away. Eliminated Puffy as well. Eliminated Dreamcloud as well. Interestingly in the one store yesterday they had Diamond Mattress there and their Black Diamond Firm Quilt top was very nice and is now in my top 5. I was shocked as it looks and feels like a Helix Elite series for less money. As for foundations I am considering many...either platform like Xplat, Knickerbocker Platform 360, or the awesome SD Indestruct or traditional foundations like the Big fig one or the Beloit Heavy Duty (lots of slats) or the Terra. Even if I buy more mattresses down the line, I want to do a one and done on the foundation. See if you can find a Diamond Mattress retailer near you...I was really surprised.

I ended up with the Diamond Mattress Black Diamond. I am early into my 120 night trial. It looks and feels very high quality and is heavy. It is a bit firmer than we remembered but might loosen up. If I do an exchange it will be the Helix Twilight Elite which has a swappable encased comfort layer consisting of two foam layers and micro coils. I still think that is the best but wanted to save some money...lol.

I respectfully disagree. Loved the RX bed, but you can feel every move of a partner. Felt slightly warmer to me, but no real gripes besides movement/spring more than I like. If it moved slightly less, or was slightly less expensive all would have been forgiven. I love Tempurpedic, and had a cloud breeeze for 9 years as my main bed, but that price for a cooling mattress around $5k was too high. Helix Elite was excellent IMO. 3Z’s make BB too, and I wanted that feel without microcoils - thus I purchased Thermo Balance Elite.

Any thoughts on the Sealy Posturpedic Elite HighPoint II? My wife and I returned a Helix Elite recently. She hated it and I loved it. We hate the split king so just trying to find something we both like. We were debating between the Sealy, Tempurpedic Pro Adapt or a Purple Restore. We are coming from a pure latex mattress. We have had it for 13 years and it’s been pretty good for about 8 years but really went down hill for us.

I have that mattress on display in my showroom here in downtown Los Angeles and I love the way it feels. I personally sleep on a king coil mattress and moved my Helix Elite mattress to the guest room.

If you’re okay with spending 4k on a mattress and want to stay away from bed in a box, I’d honestly just go for Tempurpedic. This sub will have you believe they’re the worst mattresses on the planet, but there’s a reason why so many mattresses on the market try to imitate their design and feel. Only thing is they don’t have a firm hybrid, just medium and soft. Firm would be the all foam version. If you’re willing to go for a bed in a box mattress, Helix Elite feels amazing, if you want firm go for the Dawn version.

BackScience is an excellent mattress company, and one of their biggest strengths is that they can customize the mattress to the individual. Birch is also a quality mattress, but latex has a very different feel than most people are used to. It has a lot of pushback and resilience. Some people love that right away, and others really struggle with it, especially if they are lighter weight. It is also important to say that when you are already in significant pain, almost no mattress is going to feel amazing from day one, except perhaps a Hastens 2000T. There is usually an adjustment period, even with very high end beds. With the Birch, it may take a few weeks for your body to adapt, though I completely understand how hard that is when you are exhausted and postpartum. The plush topper should help, but if they are sending you a latex topper, keep in mind it will still have that latex pushback. It should feel softer and more pressure relieving, but the overall sensation will still be different than memory foam. Also, Birch uses layers of wool over the latex. Wool is great for temperature regulation, but it does compress and can initially feel firmer until it starts to conform to your body. One important thing to double check is your foundation or bed frame. Latex mattresses are very sensitive to support. If the slats are spaced too far apart or have any flex, the mattress can feel significantly firmer and less supportive. Most latex manufacturers recommend slats less than about three inches apart or a solid foundation. Another thing to consider is how your body position has changed on this mattress. If you sank in more on your old bed and do not on this one, your pillow setup may no longer be working for you. Even a pillow you previously loved might need adjusting with a new mattress height and firmness. Given that you are recently postpartum and dealing with upper back, trap, and shoulder pain, it is also worth gently acknowledging that a mattress cannot resolve active muscular inflammation or nursing related postural strain. The goal is to not aggravate what is already there. Additional support like physical therapy, stretching, or posture changes during feeding can make a big difference alongside dialing in sleep support. You might also benefit from a full body pillow or even a king size pillow used as one from shoulders down to prevent partial rolling and reduce strain on your shoulders and upper back during side sleeping. You are definitely not screwed as a petite mom, but unfortunately it can take more trial and error to find the right combination of mattress and pillow support when your body is already under so much strain. Be gentle with yourself in this process. Best of luck to you-- and dont let the first few nights place a negative spin on all of this. Yes, understandably you woke up with issues, sometimes you need to make subtle adjustments. Wait for the topper, test and reassess.

So, as mentioned earlier, the BackScience2 would be a reasonable choice and a good compromise for the two of you, but I wouldn’t rush to spend money just yet. I probably wouldn’t have selected the Birch for you, as you’re a bit lighter and more petite, and a 7/10 mattress could end up feeling too firm for your body, and the fact that it wool over latex, adds to that firm feel. I say that with some caution, though, because my wife and I sleep on another 3Z brand mattress that rates about a 9-9.5/10. She’s 5'4", 135 lbs, and I’m 6'0", 220 lbs. On paper, that firmness makes more sense for me, but for her it definitely wouldn’t be a typical recommendation, especially since we’re mostly side sleepers. We jokingly call ourselves “against-the-rule” sleepers. We both genuinely prefer a very firm, flat mattress. Even when I experiment with toppers, I tend to choose ones with a similar ILD (firmness) to the mattress’s comfort layer. That said, you’re in a sensitive transition period right now, especially since you’re coming off of that Serta viscoelastic memory foam mattress, which is the complete opposite of what the new Birch is presenting. Because of that, I wouldn’t recommend a viscoelastic topper. They tend to sink like quicksand, can feel overly warm, and often give that “stuck” sensation that makes it harder to move around. If I were choosing from scratch, I might have suggested something like the Helix Elite, where you could have a Sunset insert on your side and a Midnight or Twilight on your husband’s side. This option is only available through an authorized dealer, not direct from 3Z. The DLX Premier Hybrid or LatexLuxe series offers a similar customizable setup, plus they offer 3 firmness levels in HD polyfoam, 4 firmness levels in latex, and you could conceivably mix and match to your comfort preferences. If you have already made your mind up to return the mattress, where you purchased can make a difference as mentioned above. Helix makes some great mattresses, and adding a topper to a mattress is a simple add on, it is a strategic option to pinpoint comfort and add longevity to your mattress. You could opt for a core helix Midnight (non zoned), and opt for the dual sized topper to soften your side and maintain his. I’d also try to avoid zoned mattresses, since petite bodies don’t always line up with the zones as intended, and that can create more issues than it solves. For now, I’d wait and see what topper they send you. Helix also makes a dual-sided topper where your side is a bit plusher and softer, while his side is more of a luxury firm, which could be a good interim solution. I am not one to run to swap mattresses after a week, you need to give it a good 30 days. The body pillow concept will take some pressure off your body, even if you take a king pillow from one in your collection, if available, and place it adjacent to you for additional support to "hug" while sleeping. The Birch is an 11" mattress, and has 8" spring support, that leaves 3" for the latex, wool, base layer and cover. Not exactly the most cushion. The good news is adding a topper, even a 3" topper, does not add too much foam above the spring support layer, so there is no worry about too much foam to cause the support layer not to be able to do its job. Right now, let things play out, and take a breath and allow things to sort themself out.

I love the Helix Elite mattress, which I bought at Brooklyn Bedding.