Sunset

2023: helix sunset. this company is a total scam. they even changed their warranty after i purchased the mattress, and insist on using the new warranty terms instead of the terms that were published at time of purchase 2024: leesa legend from costco 2025: novaform comfort grande from costco all three beds do the same thing. sleep comfy for about 8 months, then start sagging in the middle from 2013 to 2023 i slept on a no-name inner spring with a topper from amazon, and it was absolutely amazing right up until the very end, and then it developed an indent. 6'1", 205 lbs. 50% side sleeper, 30% back, 20% stomach. any reason why i shouldn't just buy a super firm king and put a very high quality latex topper on it?

helix's warranty at the time i bought the mattress was there needs to be a 1" indent in order to be accepted as a return. there is not a 1" indent, it might only be 1/2" or so, but i can't continue sleeping on it to intentionally create a 1" indent without having terrible back pain. on top of that, they changed the warranty after i bought it so that it now needs to have a 1.5" indent, and while that new warranty wouldn't apply to me, it's indicative that they are not interested in making returns easier. you also have to ship the mattress back at your own cost, which could cost 300-500 bucks, and they still have the right to deny it, at which point you're out shipping costs. if they did deny, and you want to fight it, you'd have to pay to have the mattress shipped back to you on top of that, if i had tried any one of these three mattresses in person, i would have loved them. the issue is not that they weren't comfortable at first. the issue is i had half a year of great comfort, followed by a material failure and subsequent back pain. but every single one of these mattresses would have felt great in the store.

I understand that due being lightweight, I don't sink into mattresses much. In 2019, I purchased a Winkbed in Luxury Firm and it was heaven! I could sleep in any position and always woke up refreshed. This is from the very first night. It felt like I was wrapped in a hug all night. Motion isolation was great. Edge support was great. There wasn't a single thing wrong with the bed (except it being insanely heavy - especially in a king) and I only spent 5 minutes researching, if that. Unfortunately, it stayed with my ex. I planned to purchase it again but learned they changed things up in 2021 :/ and I'm not seeing great reviews now. I'm even seeing that the softer feels firm...come on now, Winkbed! I even emailed them to see if they had any old stock somewhere. No dice. I have now spent probably a combined 50 hours researching and am on my third mattress. I'm looking for something under $2k that my body will actually sink into! Or not just sink into and sit atop the coils that I'm not heavy enough to press into. What I've tried so far: **Sleep on Latex in medium** (no softer option) - it way too firm and uncomfortable. Loved that it was eco -friendly and ethically made. It was very heavy. It truly felt rock hard and my body hurt! Customer service was great. **Brooklyn Bedding Signature Signature Hybrid in medium with cooling pillow top** \- again, way too firm. I only got medium based off of a reddit review from someone around my size. The pillow top was not soft at all. I could feel where it dipped in the quilting (very deep dips imo, like potholes) and my body ached. it was softer than the Sleep on Latex, though. Didn't love the $99 return fee... **Helix Sunset** \- this is what I'm currently sleeping on. I tried it out at CB2 and it was significantly softer there. It was so wonderfully squishy and plush throughout. I didn't even care that random people watched me lay on it in what is mostly a furniture store. I ordered the sunset and...idk what I got but it is not that mattress from in-store! I've had it for a month and it's still far too firm. Softer than the other 2 by at least a bit but disappointing as it feels nothing like what I tried out. They are telling me it will get softer. I would have gone with the Luxe but trying that out in the store, I found the same issue with being able to feel the quilting/"potholes". Debating whether to accept a free topper as that's what the other two companies offered when I requested a return. I didn't accept those times but I am feeling defeated. I feel like I've read every post about people my size or about people looking for a truly soft mattress. My upper back hurts, my ribs REALLY hurt. I think I might be sinking in the top layer but then hit what I think are the hard coils? It's hard to know what is going on. I haven't had a goodnight's sleep all year. All mattresses were tried for at least a month. I have only been able to sleep on my back on all three and wake up with a lot of pain. My throat is dry because I think sleeping on my back leads to me sleeping with my mouth open. If I sleep on my side, I get even worse rib and chest pain. Please help! Are you or is someone you know around my weight? Please let me know what you/they use! I think I need something extra soft, something others would find to be too soft. Mattress shopping kills one's spirit.

Sorry I missed this! Sorry your tooth extraction was so expensive. That is outrageous. I hope you’re able to get dental insurance sometime soon! I have never even heard of either of those brands. Did you get to try them? Have you found the one? I settled on the helix sunset with the soft topper they sent me as I was sick of lugging mattresses but I don’t like it one bit and regret settling.

I did not, sadly. I settled on the helix as I just couldn’t take it anymore. They sent a special topper that took weeks to arrive and it helped but this is definitely not the bed of my dreams. I sleep fine but have never once thought “this bed is so comfortable.” It’s just okay. Good luck to you!

No, a traditional inner spring mattress does not use memory foam, it uses a different type of polyurethane foam which lasts longer. I think however that all the mattresses you are listing have a memory foam top layer, and memory foam is famous for not lasting. I personally have a very firm traditional innerspring mattress with a soft talalay latex topper, so I think that is a very good option.

I have the sunset as a side and stomach sleeper for 2 months now and couldn’t be happier, I thought from other brands in the past I was a medium to firm guy, but the sundown is incredibly comfortable

Those newer mattresses you tried rely a lot on softer comfort layers up top, and over time those are usually the first to break down. That’s why they feel great at first, then you start getting that dip in the middle after several months. At your height and weight, you’ll feel that sooner than most. Going with a firm base and a latex topper is a pretty smart way to separate support from comfort. The mattress underneath stays stable and keeps your spine aligned, while the topper handles pressure relief. Latex in particular tends to hold its shape much better than memory foam, so it doesn’t develop those same body impressions as quickly. And when it does wear out, you’re just replacing the topper instead of the entire mattress. The only thing to be mindful of is getting the balance right. If the base is too firm, it can feel like you’re just lying on top of the bed without enough give, especially on your side. On the other hand, the topper thickness really matters since that’s what determines how much cushioning you get. Latex also feels more responsive and a bit “bouncy” compared to memory foam, so it won’t have that slow sink feel you might be used to.

We got two twin xl from Helix a few years ago, both tall and heavy. I disliked mine by one year, my husband still uses his, but he is super easy going and nothing ever bothers him. I went back to my old Saatva which is still excellent after nine years.

Helix is the closest thing that works for me. I think the hybrid stays cool