Loom & Leaf

I went to a place that had Nolah Evolution, Wink Bed (multiple), Leesa (multiple), Puffy (3), and Brooklyn Bedding (3). Trying them on close succession was super helpful. They didn’t have helix but I tried this somewhere else (midnight luxe and elite), as well as Saatva (classic, Rx, and their all foam beds). I also tried others I passed on for being too cheap and feeling cheap, or for being over $3,500 which was above what I would spend. Remember that Helix, Brooklyn Bedding, Leesa, Nolah, Bear, and a few others are all 3Z’s brands made in Arizona at the same factory. - Helix Midnight *Elite* (edit, incorrectly wrote luxe) was a winner but… there were two things I didn’t love. While being super comfortable, supportive overall with great edge and mid support, and felt cool - it had a little more spring than I liked, and was slightly firmer than some other beds. Part of the firmness and spring comes from having two levels of springs. One at the lower level and micro springs higher up. It’s also priced as a premium option. While cheaper than Tempurpedic and Beauty Rest, it’s just not an amazing value option where you must love it to pay $3k+. At $2k or slightly above, this would have been an instant buy for me. (Edit for clarity: Luxe didn’t feel as supportive, or overall as nice as more expensive Luxe) - Nolah Evolution felt remarkably similar to Midnight *Elite* for being half the price. It’s not quite as supportive, doesn’t have as much spring feel, but felt “right” for someone wanting something between medium and soft. I loved this bed. While I preferred Helix slightly, at half the price - I almost bought this because it’s insane value and very comfortable. - Leesa was not my thing. They had sent me a targeted offer for Legend Chill which was a great value at almost 50% off retail and had great reviews. I just didn’t want to mess with this if I couldn’t try it. The two I tried in store didn’t feel as substantial to me. The Legend Chill was not something I could try, but I tried the Sapira and it was too floppy and so cheaply made that I could feel the coils on the side so took a pass. - Wink Bed. I tried firm and soft. It’s a quality and comfortable bed, but I hated this bed in both feels because it was way too springy for my taste. I come from Tempurpedic and Sealy gel foam beds and my partner can feel any move I made. People seem to love or hate this bed. The store owner told me he sells a lot of them, but it’s returned sometimes because of firmness or spring. - Brooklyn Bedding. I tried the CopperFlex, Signature, Aurora. I liked them all, and prices were great, but I didn’t love any of these. I preferred the Helix Elite and Nolah Evolution, and the Nolah price is just phenomenal. - Puffy. This felt great and supportive. I love their highest end bed the most, but it’s a little too firm for my taste, and moved more than I liked. It barely fit my below $3,500 range and I preferred other options. - Saatva. I loved the RX bed. It’s a softer Helix Midnight Elite, but you can feel the movement slightly more. If this were cheaper, I would have bought this. The classic was way too firm and springy for my taste. The full memory foam bed they made was actually phenomenal. It was the only all foam bed I found as good as temperpedic, and could have happily bought that or Rx. - Tempurpedic. Great for my taste, but too expensive to get one of their premium beds. What did I buy? Thermo Balance Elite from Brooklyn Bedding. Why? I called 3Z’s. I told them exactly what I said above about their beds on their various brands versus others and what I wanted. They said the best option for a very supportive bed like the Helix Midnight Elite that was my favorite, but had more cooling, less movement (1 coil set, no micro coil), and very slightly less firmness on the medium firmness was the Thermo Balance Elite in Medium. I asked why elite and not the cheaper version, and they said it has an improved spring system for middle support and higher density premium phase change foam. They also said if I don’t love the bed, they’d give me back $1,200 and switch me out to a Nolah bed. My Thermo balance elite comes next week, and it was $600+ cheaper than Helix Midnight Luxe. I didn’t want to buy a bed I didn’t try, but they gave me a great price, promised me a refund of $1,200 and a replacement to Nolah Evolution bed (which i did try and like) if I wasn’t happy. So my advice is give the Midnight Luxe time if you do have it, and then if you don’t love it, don’t keep it. It’s an expensive bed and 3Z’s has a ton of great options, and Saatva does too.

I have a rare congenital spine disorder and am in chronic pain 24/7. I have two mattresses from Loom & Leaf which now goes by Saatava. I have their firm for my main bedroom and their soft one for my guest room. I have a tempuepedic foam topper on both of them and I can honestly say my life changed when I got them both. Even without the topper they are the best mattresses I’ve ever owned and I have spent exorbitant amounts over the last 40 years trying out all the latest ones. Orthopedic, adjustable, coiled, not coiled, latex, foam. The only one I’ve never tried is the Purple, but my daughter has one and while I will grant you it is very comfy I still like my Saatavas better. My daughter and son in law after spending the night at our house when their power went out, moved their purple mattress into their guest bedroom and ordered a Saatava for their master. Also the company is awesome, they do white glove delivery and removal of your old mattress if you want. No complaints and is order another from them in a heartbeat.

I have a rare congenital spine disorder and am in chronic pain 24/7. I have two mattresses from Loom & Leaf which now goes by Saatava. I have their firm for my main bedroom and their soft one for my guest room. I have a tempuepedic foam topper on both of them and I can honestly say my life changed when I got them both. Even without the topper they are the best mattresses I’ve ever owned and I have spent exorbitant amounts over the last 40 years trying out all the latest ones. Orthopedic, adjustable, coiled, not coiled, latex, foam. The only one I’ve never tried is the Purple, but my daughter has one and while I will grant you it is very comfy I still like my Saatavas better. My daughter and son in law after spending the night at our house when their power went out, moved their purple mattress into their guest bedroom and ordered a Saatava for their master. Also the company is awesome, they do white glove delivery and removal of your old mattress if you want. No complaints and is order another from them in a heartbeat.

Have the loom & leaf for about a year because of your recommendation. Never regretted a nights sleep since.

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The best mattress we've tested to date is the Winkbed. It's a high performance hybrid that's $1.7K (Queen), which I'd argue is a very reasonable price given the performance and material quality. You can see my review here - [https://naplab.com/mattress-reviews/winkbed-review/](https://naplab.com/mattress-reviews/winkbed-review/) The mattress I've personally slept on since 2017 is a mattress called Loom & Leaf. It's a higher-end memory foam mattress. Memory foam as a material type isn't ideal for everyone, but my wife and I simply love the body contouring hug, low motion transfer, and incredible pressure relief it creates more than the drawbacks. You can see my review here - [https://naplab.com/mattress-reviews/loom-leaf-review/](https://naplab.com/mattress-reviews/loom-leaf-review/)

So the good news is we've got some options. First, I know you mentioned you can't sleep on your back due to snoring, but I may have some advice to help that. 1) The best option would be to get an adjustable foundation. This would let you raise the head and foot of the mattress, which in your case will both help to open the airway (reducing snoring), while also alleviating pressure on the lower back and, in many cases, the sciatic nerve. 2) If getting an adjustable isn't an option, you can get most of the way there by simply using a wedge pillow for your upper body and a regular pillow for the feet. The wedge pillow is nice because it's big solid block of foam (better than just stacking pillows together). 3) If neither of the above sound like good solutions then we'll tackle this while sleeping on your side. First, put a pillow between your legs. That'll help reduce pressure and keep the spine in alignment. Second, make sure you're using a sufficiently tall enough pillow for your head. Side sleepers especially need taller pillows to keep the neck supported. If the neck isn't support it can create ripple issues down the spine, causing pressure points elsewhere. 4) If it's possible to get a new mattress it would be worth considering an HD / Plus-size mattress. Most mattresses are tuned to support up to 250-300 pounds. If you're over that then the mattress may simply not be providing sufficient support. In which case, a plus-sized / HD mattress can help, because they use materials and designs that support 300-500 pounds. If you've got a regular mattress you could simply be seeing too much sinkage in the middle of the mattress, which means spine is misaligned, which means pressure points, which means more sciatic / lower back pains. Take a look at this page here - [https://naplab.com/best-mattress/best-mattress-for-heavy-people/](https://naplab.com/best-mattress/best-mattress-for-heavy-people/) \- it can walk you through the good options for those HD mattresses.

The least expensive, easiest, and most impactful thing you can do to improve cooling is 1) get a more breathable set of sheets and 2) get a more breathable mattress protector. When it comes to cooling sheets, protectors, and bedding, I've yet to find anything better than Bedgear or SHEEX. I've been using these for personal use for nearly a decade. If you're looking to replace the mattress here's what I advise: 1) Look for a hybrid (foam on top of coils; avoid all foam mattresses) 2) Look for mattresses that have less memory foam 3) Look for a mattress that uses phase change materials and/or thermo reactive / cooling fibers (these are often included within the cover and/or just below the cover) 4) Spend at least $1.5K (for a Queen; cheaper models just don't have enough budget room to get quality cooling materials within them) While there are absolutely exceptions to these rules, the above guidelines will get you far better cooling outcomes in most cases. Shopping for a cooling mattress is really difficult. It's very easy for a mattress brand to make their mattress look and sound like it's incredible for cooling. And because mattress brands know everyone wants a cool mattress they will aggressively market their cooling features, even if the cooling performance isn't all that great. Even with my experience, while I can make pretty good educated guesses on how good / bad cooling performance will be, until I actually test it, lie on it, feel it, cut it open, and take thermal photographs of the mattress, I'm never 100% certain on what the performance will be like. Lastly, take a look at our list of the best cooling mattresses we've tested so far here - [https://naplab.com/best-mattress/best-mattress-for-cooling/](https://naplab.com/best-mattress/best-mattress-for-cooling/)

The mattress I've personally slept on since 2017 is a mattress called Loom & Leaf. It's a higher-end memory foam mattress. Memory foam as a material type isn't ideal for everyone, but my wife and I simply love the body contouring hug, low motion transfer, and incredible pressure relief it creates more than the drawbacks. You can see my review here - [https://naplab.com/mattress-reviews/loom-leaf-review/](https://naplab.com/mattress-reviews/loom-leaf-review/)

The mattress I've personally slept on since 2017 is a mattress called Loom & Leaf. It's a higher-end memory foam mattress. Memory foam as a material type isn't ideal for everyone, but my wife and I simply love the body contouring hug, low motion transfer, and incredible pressure relief it creates more than the drawbacks. You can see my review here - [https://naplab.com/mattress-reviews/loom-leaf-review/](https://naplab.com/mattress-reviews/loom-leaf-review/)

The mattress I've personally slept on since 2017 is a mattress called Loom & Leaf. It's a higher-end memory foam mattress. Memory foam as a material type isn't ideal for everyone, but my wife and I simply love the body contouring hug, low motion transfer, and incredible pressure relief it creates more than the drawbacks. You can see my review here - [https://naplab.com/mattress-reviews/loom-leaf-review/](https://naplab.com/mattress-reviews/loom-leaf-review/)

I sleep on my side and have a Loom and Leaf. It’s our second one after 10 years. We love it